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Steelers 6 @ Ravens 26
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Thu, 9/11/14 7:25pm
12 Picks - 86% 2 Picks - 14%
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Jaguars 10 @ Redskins 41
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Sun, 9/14/14 12:00pm
2 Picks - 13% 14 Picks - 87%
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Cowboys 26 @ Titans 10
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Sun, 9/14/14 12:00pm
6 Picks - 38% 10 Picks - 62%
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Cardinals 25 @ Giants 14
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Sun, 9/14/14 12:00pm
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Patriots 30 @ Vikings 7
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Sun, 9/14/14 12:00pm
13 Picks - 81% 3 Picks - 19%
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Saints 24 @ Browns 26
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Sun, 9/14/14 12:00pm
15 Picks - 94% 1 Pick - 6%
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Falcons 10 @ Bengals 24
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Sun, 9/14/14 12:00pm
5 Picks - 31% 11 Picks - 69%
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Lions 7 @ Panthers 24
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Sun, 9/14/14 12:00pm
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Dolphins 10 @ Bills 29
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Sun, 9/14/14 12:00pm
13 Picks - 81% 3 Picks - 19%
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Rams 19 @ Buccaneers 17
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Sun, 9/14/14 3:05pm
3 Picks - 19% 13 Picks - 81%
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Seahawks 21 @ Chargers 30
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Sun, 9/14/14 3:05pm
16 Picks - 100% 0 Picks - 0%
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Chiefs 17 @ Broncos 24
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Sun, 9/14/14 3:25pm
0 Picks - 0% 16 Picks - 100%
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Jets 24 @ Packers 31
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Sun, 9/14/14 3:25pm
1 Pick - 6% 15 Picks - 94%
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Texans 30 @ Raiders 14
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Sun, 9/14/14 3:25pm
14 Picks - 88% 2 Picks - 12%
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Bears 28 @ 49ers 20
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Sun, 9/14/14 7:30pm
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Eagles 30 @ Colts 27
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Mon, 9/15/14 7:30pm
7 Picks - 44% 9 Picks - 56%
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Steelers 6 @ Ravens 26

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I think the Steelers are the slightly better team, and if distractions really could make a team play worse, I'd say that could apply to this game.
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Nothing to talk about here...

Patriots 30 @ Vikings 7

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Not a great week to be a running back wearing purple. I'm conflicted on AP. (Though I'm trying not to be just because he's "my guy".) On one hand, lots of parents, especially those in the south, seem to be really confused as to what all the fuss is about. I'm not sure it's fair to string up Adrian for the idea of doing something he, and half the county, consider a weekly part of child rearing. I do believe Adrian meant well. It is a hallmark of abusers that they hide what they're doing. For example, there was a local-ish story about a man who brought his phone or laptop in for service, and lots of pictures of his kids in various states of undress were on the device. It sparked a local debate over whether or not that's ok. Essentially everyone has SOME nude photos of their kids, even back from when they had to be developed somewhere. Parents today have devices with unlimited pictures capturing on them all the time. Where is the line where it becomes weird? Long story short I recall an expert of sorts raising the point that a big "tell" on his intentions was his openness. Did he show his wife this mornings naked-chase-time video, or did he have hours of videos on an sd card hidden in his sock drawer? By that measuring stick it's pretty clear Adrian feels that, while the switch curling around the leg and biting in was unintentional and unfortunate, he genuinely feels this is a normal part of raising a good child.

On the other hand, those pictures speak for themselves, and I'm really not sure how much his "intention" matters. There is a line somewhere between "light spanking" and outright child abuse, and what you intended doesn't necessarily keep you on the good side of it.

There are, however, a lot of people that seem to want to completely dismiss the whole "I was spanked", "I was hit with a belt", "lot of people do this", conversation, and I think that's wrong. I don't know that it matters here that half the country still holds to "spare the rod spoil the child", but I do know it's not entirely irrelevant in the conversation. More to the point, if you are against this, then treating Adrian like he's some kind of singular monster really misses, and will do nothing to fix, the issue.
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Not sure what to make of the Patriots yet. These one game sample sizes are tough. I thought the Patriots were going to be really good because I took their offense for granted. But if they can't protect Brady, and if he's not still elite, it might not matter if their defense has improved. Still, the Vikings will be without their best player and the Patriots are still the Patriots until I see differently.
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Let's all agree that the NFL is horrible and move on.

Jets 24 @ Packers 31

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Did we ever think we'd look back on the Brett Favre's dong "scandal" with fond "those were the days" memories?
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Rex Ryan is a good coach, I think.
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One of the few memories of a Jets/Packers game is going to Target at like 5 AM to see if we could get a Wii. They only had 3 available and we were like 5th in line. I think I almost warmed up once this game was over.

Bears 28 @ 49ers 20

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The Bears offense is questionable with injuries and the 49ers are questionable on defense these days no matter what happened last week. I just don't think the Bears defense is good enough.
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The Bears looked pretty bad but they were able to tie it up with the Bills last week to send things to OT. I don't see that happening against the 49ers.

Eagles 30 @ Colts 27

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Seems like a toss up. Eagles just because.
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Suck for luck eh.
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09/12/2014 @ 07:04:08 PM
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Down with the NFL and its players!
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09/12/2014 @ 08:21:01 PM
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This might be the very first time in my NutCan Pick'em career where I actually genuinely forgot to make a pick for a game.
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09/12/2014 @ 09:20:10 PM
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To extend my already long game comment, it reminds me a little of the Vick dog fighting thing. After that broke no one seemed to care that, for a lot of players, and areas of the country, the reaction was genuine "wait....this is wrong?" befuddlement. We as a society still turned all of our hate on this one guy, reacting as if he was some uniquely evil person. While I don't think here, or there, you have to go "well, everyone does it so no biggie", but to me the bigger issue is what the Vick case brought to light. If you genuinely cared about the dogs you should have been interested, and not dismissive, in the fact that no, Vick wasn't some psychopathic dog torturer. He thought it was normal. Tons of people thought it was normal, and that should have been the issue.

Of course this isn't to say no improvement in the overall situation came from making Vick the "fall guy" so to speak, but in our race to hate the one guy that got "caught" we flew past the real issue.

I think there are some parallels here. Maybe we should focus on the fact that tons and tons of people, in fact, consider this routine punishment for mundane wrongs, or had it same or worse done to them in the not to distant past, instead of making this about one guy.
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09/15/2014 @ 08:26:02 AM
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I would say that I was slightly leaning in the direction of giving Peterson the benefit of the doubt, that he was trying to be a present father; that he was doing what he was taught; that while he might have crossed the line in spite of his pure intentions his heart was in the right place. I thought all of that until I saw what Chris Carter had to say (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/watch-cris-carter-take-an-emotional-stand-against-child-abuse-on-espn-153242374.html). Some people will look at how they were raised, regardless of the brutality, and say "that's what made me who I am and that's how I'm going to raise my kids." Chris Carter had the clarity to say "that's how I was raised and it was wrong, and I won't be teaching my kids that." On another related point, the discipline Peterson received from the father from whom he learned these techniques must not have been too effective. Peterson has about 7 (or more) kids with 7 different women. So whatever "toughness" Peterson claims his father instilled in him by whipping him with with tree branches did next to nothing when it came to actually turning him into a man (aside from what Peterson actually said about this in terms of how he was raised, I know nothing about his upbringing). I don't disagree that the methods are somewhat of a regional/cultural thing of which I really can't comment on too much, but after hearing some rather heartfelt pleas from people who went through these types of things, I feel I can better understand how wrong what AP did actually was.

But to treat this as soley a one guy thing is dumb too. Frankly, men need to man up.
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09/15/2014 @ 10:34:02 AM
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I don't think those are mutually exclusive thoughts though.

Peterson was almost definitely doing what he felt good dads do. Abusers hide their abuse. Adrian is open about it almost to a fault. He, and many others, not only feel this is within their rights as a parent (or at the very least the idea of "getting a switch" for a disobedient child, even if some of them might think it went too far this time, which even AP thinks) but that it's their outright DUTY to do so. That parents who aren't doing that are raising soft, disobedient little shits. That any parent who uses "timeouts" are idiots, and are a detriment to society.

They're also wrong. Not just because there are often more than one way to achieve results, especially in the murky area that is what makes people who they are. Not just because what even makes people "good" is a subjective area. (Does everyone need to be "hardened for life" in 2014? We aren't hunting Sabertooths for supper. For AP in particular doesn't "making me the man I am today" include making him the man facing jail and a tarnished-if-not-extinguished career?) Not just because of some overly simplistic "hitting kids is wrong, always". (2 year olds don't understand the pros and cons of a well reasoned argument of why touching the hot stove isn't a wise maneuver. Scaring the bajessus out of them and/or hurting them in a temporary matter might be better than burning a pinky off.) Not just because the punishment so rarely seems to fit the "crime". (After all, if you're going to make the case your kid wouldn't understand a reasoned argument, then the kid doesn't really understand *why* he's/she's being flogged on anything more than a "daddy is mad" level either.) Not just because studies seem to show they're wrong. Not just because they're wrong even if they're not wrong. (The ends don't justify the means, even if this is objectively the "best" way to get good kids.)

Because all of that, and more. It being a part of southern, or black, culture/history doesn't make it *right*. We used to own black people as property a mere 150 years ago. That means, if the "grandparents did it" yardstick is ok, then there are more than a handful of people who's grandparents were slaves, or slave owners, still around. Cultures change and evolve, and things aren't ok to do just because your dad or your meemaw did them to you. Conversely every change in culture doesn't have to be lamented as society going to hell in a handcart.

That said, how you were raised plays a powerful role in shaping what you think is normal. So, good for Cris that he stepped back and realized it was wrong. For thousands of other though, and Adrian in particular, it's going to take effort and work to change this, and acting like Adrian is some kind of standout monster ignores the big picture.

The real "story" here, to me, is that this is a non-story to so so many people. That this is liberal political correctness trouncing over a good father, and judging them in the process. That at least in intention this type of punishment is legal in all 50 states, and even legal for a school to do to your kid instead of detention in 19.

Much like beating a child, I'm not sure coming down hard on a guy who still lacks (almost) all understanding that what he did was wrong, is the way to fix that. Adrian needs help, not to be castoff as a monster. The issue needs work, and pretending there's anything uniquely punishable about Adrian, at least what he intended to do, ignores the big picture.
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09/15/2014 @ 11:25:41 AM
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To clarify, I don't think he should get off scott free or anything, nor do I think he will. Certainly not from the league in Goodell's first big show of force post the Ray Rice bungling. But getting some punishment is different from "this man is so evil he can no longer have a role in society".
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09/15/2014 @ 12:07:21 PM
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I'm not sure there's a whole lot, if anything, that I disagree with regarding what you said. In other words, those views are fairly consistant with my own. This is largely a legal matter, and I'm sure there are thousands of child abuse cases similar to AP's that we never hear about because most cases don't involve NFL players. I imagine that any conviction resulting in jailtime would largely be dependent on the prosecution demonstrating a pattern of such abuse as opposed to a single incident. But I agree with your very last statement: Even if AP uses poor judgement or is poorly shaped by an abusive father or whatever and all this translates into him being a bad father, I don't think this is a case where he needs to be put away for life or ousted from society. If anything, while something should be done to protect kids from abusive parents (if that is indeed what he is), there is a certain empathy that is required to feel bad for someone like AP who's upbringing (according to him) probably caused him to think this type of thing is ok; or who's "tough" upbringing turned him completely the other way into a man who knocks up women left and right and leaves his other kids to someone else to take care of.

Part of the "real" story that you mentioned also relates to Chris Carter. One of the reasons that the eagles got rid of Carter (and where the mostly mis-characterized quote of "all he does is score touchdowns" came from) is that he was a wreck of a human being early in his life/playing career. He was a drug addict and alcoholic. Carter credits his getting cut as a wake up call and he got his life turned around and from all accounts is a pretty upstanding individual today. By Carter's own admission, he seemed to suggest that his mother raised him (and his sibblings) in a manner that would make most people cringe today. How did that work out? This particular recipient of that turned into a drug addict and alcoholic. Yes this is anecdotal, but the point is we seem to be finding out that beating your kids doesn't produce hardened, responsible kids later in life. Rather it more likely produces kids who grow up to beat their own kids.
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09/15/2014 @ 12:26:58 PM
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And Cris largely has getting a second chance from the Vikings to thank for where he is today. Which is why, though he didn't outright say "he should never be allowed to play again", I question, a little bit, the tenacity at which he lauds the Vikings for deactivating him. Of course what Carter did was mostly to himself, not a 4 year old.
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09/15/2014 @ 01:53:35 PM
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That is a very good point. Had Chris Carter been cast off and never again allowed to play, he might be dead, or a chronic criminal, or at least still in a horrible state of life even to this day. Being given that second chance resulted in a drug addict turning around and becoming an ordained minister. Also a good point about Chris doing his stuff to himself. If AP turns out to have been a chronic child beater (or if his "whoopin' room" turns out to be a dungeon), then whatever the usual punishment for those things from a legal standpoint will/should be his fate.

I think Chris's applause for the Vikings was because he says that's the only language a football player understands. Take the AP case out of the equation. If a football player is suspended, they are more likely to listen to that than if that player is being criticized in the media by the National Organization of Women or Big Brothers Big Sisters. I think that's what he meant by this: "As a man, that's the only thing we respect (taking him off the football field). We don't respect no dang women. We don't respect no kids." Perhaps he should have changed his use of "man" to "football player", but that's just my opinion.
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09/15/2014 @ 02:01:08 PM
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I think this has probably been established, but just in case it hasn't I want to make it clear here. It is possible for Adrian Peterson to be a pretty rotten guy when it comes to how he raises and disciplines his kids WHILE AT THE SAME TIME that this whole thing is a non-story to so many people. By which I mean it's quite possible that this country is full of pretty terrible parents who think it is perfectly ok to beat their kids and leave permanent marks on some of the most tender and private parts of their body as a means of behavior correction.

It's also possible that AP just doesn't know any better, or had a horrible lapse of judgement, and given some counseling could be a perfectly good parent who raises kids who can learn to overcome some of the mistakes he has made in his life.

Note: also, for the record, I want it to be stated that I have no ill-intent towards AP because he plays for my team's rival. I asked on NutCan a few years ago if it was ok for me to like AP inspite of that. So for what it's worth, there is no "your players are immoral my players are angels" thing going on here. At least that is not my intention.
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09/15/2014 @ 02:30:44 PM
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The whole thing was rather eye opening for me. Parents have been having the "to spank or not" debate for years now. I had no idea switching/whipping/"whooping" kids was in the equation for a scary large part of the country. It even goes beyond parents. In 2006 almost a quarter of a million kids in the US were physically hit by a teacher or other staff member. http://www.businessinsider.com/19-states-still-allow-corporal-punishment-2014-3

"Teachers or principals may strike students three or more times on the buttocks or upper thighs with a wooden paddle, which is often 15 inches long. In some cases, paddles are made from shaved-down baseball bats. Students may also be hit with a hand or taped-together rulers."

And yes, I think Adrian is in the wrong here. This is not a "well, to each his own" area, IMO. Adrian just isn't unique here. If a teacher in Texas can take a bat to your kid's thighs, certainly it's within Adrian's right, at least to some degree, to use a switch on his own kids'. I think both policies need to be ditched immediately.

Adrian has repeatedly established over the years he's a blockhead, probably not worthy of being anyone's hero, but as of now with what we know, I don't think he's a child abuser. Negligent though, time will tell.
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09/15/2014 @ 03:06:29 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 02:30:44 PM
This is not a "well, to each his own" area, IMO. Adrian just isn't unique here.


Agreed. He might be a monster that should never be allowed around kids ever again (which is certainly the case with many child abusing parents). Or (and probably more likely) he is poorly misguided based on his upbringing and could benefit from learning that the way he was brought up isn't acceptable today (nor should it have been then) (which is also very likely the case with many parents whose only intent is to discipline their children when necessary). If I had to guess, I'd lean towards the latter.
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09/15/2014 @ 03:08:26 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 12:26:58 PM
And Cris largely has getting a second chance from the Vikings to thank for where he is today. Which is why, though he didn't outright say "he should never be allowed to play again", I question, a little bit, the tenacity at which he lauds the Vikings for deactivating him. Of course what Carter did was mostly to himself, not a 4 year old.


Today marks the day when I first realized that WR #80 (Carter) of Vikings fame spells his first name sans H. Talk about a wakeup call.
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09/15/2014 @ 05:19:59 PM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 03:08:26 PM
Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 12:26:58 PM
And Cris largely has getting a second chance from the Vikings to thank for where he is today. Which is why, though he didn't outright say "he should never be allowed to play again", I question, a little bit, the tenacity at which he lauds the Vikings for deactivating him. Of course what Carter did was mostly to himself, not a 4 year old.


Today marks the day when I first realized that WR #80 (Carter) of Vikings fame spells his first name sans H. Talk about a wakeup call.

Oy.

It made my head hurt when reading Scott's comments and seeing references to "Chris Carter." Like, who's that guy?

I won't get into the AP debate because bases seemed to have been covered, I'll just say the whole thing depresses me fully.
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jon.jpgJon - 1000000 posts (and counting!)
09/16/2014 @ 12:02:44 AM
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/16/2014 @ 08:03:02 AM
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This guy.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - So's your face
09/16/2014 @ 05:23:28 PM
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Neither of those guys played and were subsequently dropped from the Eagles. That I'm aware of.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8986 Posts
09/16/2014 @ 09:25:56 PM
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Are you sure? Jon's guy does seem to be on every sports team there is over the last 5 years.
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