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Seahawks 17 @ Colts 34
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Sun, 10/4/09 12:00pm
0 Picks - 0% 21 Picks - 100%
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Buccaneers 13 @ Commanders 16
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Sun, 10/4/09 12:00pm
3 Picks - 14% 18 Picks - 86%
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Ravens 21 @ Patriots 27
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Sun, 10/4/09 12:00pm
14 Picks - 67% 7 Picks - 33%
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Bengals 23 @ Browns 20
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Sun, 10/4/09 12:00pm
19 Picks - 90% 2 Picks - 10%
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Titans 17 @ Jaguars 37
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Sun, 10/4/09 12:00pm
18 Picks - 86% 3 Picks - 14%
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Raiders 6 @ Texans 29
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Sun, 10/4/09 12:00pm
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Lions 24 @ Bears 48
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Sun, 10/4/09 12:00pm
2 Picks - 10% 19 Picks - 90%
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Giants 27 @ Chiefs 16
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Sun, 10/4/09 12:00pm
21 Picks - 100% 0 Picks - 0%
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Bills 10 @ Dolphins 38
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Sun, 10/4/09 3:05pm
19 Picks - 90% 2 Picks - 10%
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Jets 10 @ Saints 24
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Sun, 10/4/09 3:05pm
2 Picks - 10% 19 Picks - 90%
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Rams 0 @ 49ers 35
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Sun, 10/4/09 3:15pm
1 Pick - 5% 20 Picks - 95%
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Cowboys 10 @ Broncos 17
Final
Sun, 10/4/09 3:15pm
16 Picks - 76% 5 Picks - 24%
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Chargers 28 @ Steelers 38
Final
Sun, 10/4/09 7:20pm
5 Picks - 24% 16 Picks - 76%
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Packers 23 @ Vikings 30
Final
Mon, 10/5/09 7:30pm
8 Picks - 38% 13 Picks - 62%
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Chargers 28 @ Steelers 38

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Sarah
Are these teams good or bad? I don't even know yet. For watching a lot of football, I still don't have a clue about what's going on in the league....
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Jeremy
The Steelers could very easily be 0-3. (Remember that late Hines Ward fumble in week one?) Is it time to hit the panic button?
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I'm not sure about the Chargers, yet the Steelers have been underwhelming so far. When in doubt, go with your fantasy team. That means Darren Sproles and the Chargers.
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This is like the JV game to the Monday Night contest.

Packers 23 @ Vikings 30

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Pass.
No, j/k. It'll be a conflicting night, but I am 100% sure I want the Packers to win this game, Favre be damned. Packers have a lot of work to do, A-Rod needs to get rid of the ball sooner. Our defense has been decent, and they've been creating a lot of turnovers. During every broadcast, the announcers say that Harris and Woodson are the best cornerback tandem in the NFL, but they're getting old. I hope they're able to continue being great.

Only have 2 chances to be witty this week? Drats.
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The Packers don't look so great thus far, and my sources tell me Rodgers has played horribly thus far. (Though, I think my sources might be a bit biased.) However, they are still, most likely, the best team the Vikings will have faced. They can't play lack-luster football and expect to win this one. They can't dominate the game, while letting the other team hang around, like they did against the 49ers, or the Packers last year. The good news is Rodgers looked absolutely lost out there last year, so here's to him being even more baffled this time. I mean, it's not like we have a guy on the team who can tell us exactly what the team will do when or anything.
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Vikings 42 - Packers 28.
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There's so much to say that there's really nothing to say. Let's just watch some football.
pyzamOmgWtf.jpgJfk10intex - My computer is better than yours!!!!
09/28/2009 @ 11:43:30 PM
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GO PACK GO!!!!!
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l_ad719f619e5ad7f4b593814445bf63ec.jpgRUFiO1984 - Go Lions!!!
09/29/2009 @ 09:52:59 AM
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Lions over Bears! Count IT!!!!!!!!!!!!emoticon
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2887.gifAlex - 3619 Posts
09/29/2009 @ 10:54:40 AM
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RUFiO1984 Wrote - Today @ 09:52:59 AM
Lions over Bears! Count IT!!!!!!!!!!!!emoticon


Too soon
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09/29/2009 @ 04:49:15 PM
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Ill just keep choosing titans.. they will eventually win.. Like the lions for example.
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
09/29/2009 @ 07:51:26 PM
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After seeing about 100 replays of the Favre miracle pass, I have some more thoughts about it. After all the emotion wears off, that might become one of his most impressive passes of his career. He has had a lot of game winning passes, he has had a lot of impressive passes, but this one was different. With the game literally on the line, he threw a 50 yard crossing route. That wasn't just a bomb where a receiver has to run under it. He didn't just toss it up and hope that a couple receivers would out muscle the defenders. He threw the ball 50 yards to a spot that when he threw it, there wasn't a guy within 10 yards of it. ESPN showed a replay from behind the line, and when Favre release the ball, Lewis wasn't even in the picture, and it wasn't just because of the angle of the camera lens. He probably led Lewis by 10 yards. I am a Packer fan getting excited about a Viking player throwing a game winning touchdown. I really just can't get over how amazing that throw actually is.
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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
10/03/2009 @ 08:33:04 AM
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Where is Jerome Bettis from again?
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4605 Posts
10/03/2009 @ 01:43:22 PM
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For being the biggest weekend of sports, we're sure not talking a lot about any of it (maybe because Scott was out of town). (Badgers vs Gophers - almost over and Badgers are going to make it 6 straight against MN) (Twins are making a serious run at the division and it all comes down to this weekend) And of course ... What's going to happen in the MNF game anyway? Once it starts is it just going to be just like any ol' Packer/Viking game or will it be a game for the ages?

And isn't Bettis from MI? And why do you ask Scott?
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
10/03/2009 @ 04:21:56 PM
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I had cable this week because I was staying in a hotel for work. Sportscenter literally had 3 or 4 stories each show about the packers-Viking game (I now know that favre saw clody with a chance o meatballs with his daughter). It seems like the lack of baseball races (only one of any kind for several weeks now) have given us nothing to talk about, much like how the super bowl in Detroit gave us nothing to talk about except that bettis was from detroit.

Honestly, I think the packer Viking game won't be that different once the game is on. It really is weird seeing favre in a Viking uniform, almost to the point of not actually thinking that it is real, but like I've said before, I was rooting for the guy all along to play, whoever it be for. I don't have any anosity towards him, so I'm not getting any more excited than I would for any other packer-Viking game.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3619 Posts
10/03/2009 @ 04:38:50 PM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 04:21:56 PM
It really is weird seeing favre in a Viking uniform, almost to the point of not actually thinking that it is real,


It's too weird. I won't be able to comprehend the situation until the game starts, if then even. It's one of those "when pigs fly" scenarios so I've been busy keeping an eye to the sky.

Badger's offense looks really good, the defense could be an issue. They should get into the top 25 now I think.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4605 Posts
10/03/2009 @ 06:13:47 PM
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Favre was asked to throw out first pitch for tomorrow's final regular season game ever @ the dome, but declined. He'll probably change his mind and do it anyway.
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flower .jpgPackOne - You analyze me. Tend to despise me. You laugh when I stumble and fall.
10/03/2009 @ 07:29:31 PM
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Nice, Nutcan Halloween is here.
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pyzamOmgWtf.jpgJfk10intex - 229 Posts
10/04/2009 @ 01:51:25 PM
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Man... My record blows...
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pyzamOmgWtf.jpgJfk10intex - My computer is better than yours!!!!
10/04/2009 @ 01:54:28 PM
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On nutcan the packers and Vikings game is the game of the week... More people r split in that descion tha. Any other game.
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pyzamOmgWtf.jpgJfk10intex - My computer is better than yours!!!!
10/04/2009 @ 03:15:20 PM
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LAST MINUTE SWITCH: I pick the Denver Broncos 3-0 To beat the Dallas Cowboys 2-1...
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pyzamOmgWtf.jpgJfk10intex - My computer is better than yours!!!!
10/04/2009 @ 06:52:57 PM
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Lolz... ooooooh!!!! MY LAST MINUTE SWITCH PAIED OFF!!!!!! YAY!!! :D COWBOYS LOST!!!! HAHAHA
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2887.gifAlex - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret
10/04/2009 @ 08:37:39 PM
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Hey, I want credit for my Bengals pick!
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2887.gifAlex - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated
10/04/2009 @ 08:40:57 PM
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Alex Wrote - Yesterday @ 04:38:50 PM
Badger's offense looks really good, the defense could be an issue. They should get into the top 25 now I think.


25th and 26th, big game next weekend
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - How do you use these things?
10/04/2009 @ 08:59:37 PM
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Yea, Jeremy has to fix that. It feels weird not having watched any football this afternoon...
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - Tater Salad?
10/05/2009 @ 07:39:13 AM
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What happens if Orlando and Alex tie? Do we force game 15?
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
10/05/2009 @ 07:23:47 PM
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well, so starts the game of a lifetime.

And Sarah, prepare to have your heart broken. Perhaps we all should.

This is the biggest game since Adam Banks played the Hawks for the first time in the Minnesota state hockey tournament.
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10/05/2009 @ 07:39:28 PM
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I hate pre-game shows. They keep showing all the good times, but this sucks. I hope the Packers kick ass. Oh and if anyone comes on here and spells Favre wrong, I will have a fit. Already seen it spelled wrong wayyyyy too much on Facebook.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
10/05/2009 @ 07:51:22 PM
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Can't blame Rodgers too much on that one. They could have given him forward progress before the ball came out.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4605 Posts
10/05/2009 @ 07:52:48 PM
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Why the heck would you challenge that??????? Damn it. Rodgers needs to get rid of the ball faster. That's always been his problem.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
10/05/2009 @ 08:04:15 PM
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Apparerently Viking O-linemen can wrap up defenders from behind with no penalties.
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10/05/2009 @ 08:10:53 PM
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Apparently. Also apparently we have a great tight end in Finley!!!!
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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
10/05/2009 @ 08:12:21 PM
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You can have your long drawn out drive, I'll take the fireworks.
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10/05/2009 @ 08:18:18 PM
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Now we can set the tone.
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10/05/2009 @ 08:23:53 PM
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See my previous post about Rodgers getting rid of the ball sooner!!
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10/05/2009 @ 08:41:32 PM
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I still think this tv's color is just messed up.
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scott.jpgScott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone!
10/05/2009 @ 08:53:01 PM
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I was just about to say that so far, the packers have more or less contained Peterson. I'd say they are doing a little more than contain him after that.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4605 Posts
10/05/2009 @ 08:54:19 PM
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Yea they are! I'm sorry I made fun of Mathews on draft day!
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
10/05/2009 @ 09:03:24 PM
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The officials are taking this game into their own hands. That PI call was criminal.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4605 Posts
10/05/2009 @ 09:07:43 PM
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Yea, but as Jeremy reminded me, there was another penalty on that play as well...emoticon
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
10/05/2009 @ 09:10:35 PM
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Right, but its still flat out the principle of the matter. I can swallow an offsides. PI suggest incompetents at best.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4605 Posts
10/05/2009 @ 09:22:20 PM
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I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. That pass interference call was terrible.
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scott.jpgScott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue.
10/05/2009 @ 09:28:48 PM
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I wouldn't be so upset about the Viking nonholding calls if they would just call one of them. They can ignore the other 10, just give me one for crying out loud.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - How do you use these things?
10/05/2009 @ 09:44:09 PM
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OK Refs, thank you, correct call. Phew almost got really upset there.
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
10/05/2009 @ 09:51:06 PM
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The packer receivers are supposed to be good. How do you explain dropped passes right in the numbers?

And for the record, I do not think the Vikings are outplaying the packers by that much. Although to be fair, the packers have driven deep into Viking territory 3 times with nothing to show for it.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - I believe virtually everything I read.
10/06/2009 @ 01:55:03 AM
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Scott Wrote - Yesterday @ 09:51:06 PM
The packer receivers are supposed to be good. How do you explain dropped passes right in the numbers?

And for the record, I do not think the Vikings are outplaying the packers by that much. Although to be fair, the packers have driven deep into Viking territory 3 times with nothing to show for it.


That's ridiculous. For virtually the whole game you guys had 2 big plays, and 14 to show for it. Favre had 6.2 hours to throw every pass to Roger's .2 seconds. The Vikings passed at will on the Packers when it mattered, and the same only became true for the Packers once the Vikings started playing not to lose on offense (note to NFL coaches, this almost always leads to letting the other team back into the game) and playing some sort of middle of the road not-prevent but not actual-defense defense that accomplished neither stopping the normal plays or the big plays.

Even the homers on the Packer whine line on z-100 thought the Packers were thoroughly outplayed and that the score made the game seem a lot closer than it was. (They also noted that there's big cause for concern, because last weeks game against the pitiful Rams wasn't nearly the blowout the score would indicate it was, but I can't comment on that, because i didn't see it.)

Until the Vikings started playing "we have a big enough lead to just let them use up the clock" ball, this was no contest. It was MADE somewhat of a contest, but that's really questionable coaching more than anything.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 9475 Posts
10/06/2009 @ 02:06:14 AM
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Actually I want to amend my comment a bit. I don't know what the total numbers were, or what normal numbers are, and while it's true Rodgers got sacked 8 times, and that's a lot, I kind of feel like, and this is just a feeling, that the Vikings didn't really get to him a ton, and that the people bemoaning the Packers o-line the whole way home are being a BIT harsh. When the Vikings got there, he went down, but there didn't seem to me like there was guys in his face all night, constantly getting drilled right after releasing the ball, etc. Maybe I'm wrong though.

Rodgers has to be well on his way to setting the record for the most saftied QB though, so he's got that going for him.
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10/06/2009 @ 07:52:44 AM
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Rodgers did move around a lot in the pocket and sometimes was forced out of the pocket. Some of those sacks were on him for holding the ball too long. But any QB especially Favre can light up a team if he is given that kind of time. I don't know if it was a great o-line perfromance or a lack fo pressure from Green Bay. I really don't understand why Kampman is playing drop-back linebacker when he is one of the premier pass rushers in the league.

To me the Vikings were by far the better team tonight at least. If not for the AP fumble, the game might have been over at halftime. The Vikings did an awful jub managing the game at the end and played bad defense letting receivers behind them, luckliy the lead was big enough. I don't kno what was up with that bomb Favre threw with 3 minutes left, it gave the Packers 40 extra seconds, to mount their comback.
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10/06/2009 @ 08:15:49 AM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 02:55:03 AM
That's ridiculous. For virtually the whole game you guys had 2 big plays, and 14 to show for it. Favre had 6.2 hours to throw every pass to Roger's .2 seconds. The Vikings passed at will on the Packers when it mattered, and the same only became true for the Packers once the Vikings started playing not to lose on offense (note to NFL coaches, this almost always leads to letting the other team back into the game) and playing some sort of middle of the road not-prevent but not actual-defense defense that accomplished neither stopping the normal plays or the big plays.


That's not ridiculous at all. The Packers WERE moving the ball too, they sustained 2 pretty good drives in the first half that ended in turnovers, and hit big on that bomb. Then, they drove right down to the 1 yard line and were only kept out of the endzone because a TE dropped a wide open soft pass right in his hands. The Vikings simply did not outplay the Packers in the first half, at least not by that much. Give me some stats to prove it if you will, but the 28-14 score in the first half was not indicative of how that first half went.

And Favre's 6.2 seconds to throw every ball was aided by the Vikings O-line holding on almost every play in the first half. At one point in the first half, they showed some replays of Kampman's "ineffectiveness", 1 of his replays was him dropping back into coverage, and the other 2 they showed was him pursuing the QB and having a Viking O-linemen impeding him from behind. Like I said, if they had simply called 1 holding call, maybe I wouldn't be complaining. But the refs put the holding flag (at least for the Vikings) in their pocket before they even walked out onto the field.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 9475 Posts
10/06/2009 @ 08:17:53 AM
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jthompto Wrote - Today @ 07:52:44 AM
Rodgers did move around a lot in the pocket and sometimes was forced out of the pocket. Some of those sacks were on him for holding the ball too long. But any QB especially Favre can light up a team if he is given that kind of time. I don't know if it was a great o-line perfromance or a lack fo pressure from Green Bay. I really don't understand why Kampman is playing drop-back linebacker when he is one of the premier pass rushers in the league.

To me the Vikings were by far the better team tonight at least. If not for the AP fumble, the game might have been over at halftime. The Vikings did an awful jub managing the game at the end and played bad defense letting receivers behind them, luckliy the lead was big enough. I don't kno what was up with that bomb Favre threw with 3 minutes left, it gave the Packers 40 extra seconds, to mount their comback.

Yeah, they were talking about on the radio how bad that was. They went to an ultra conservative offense that had caused them to 3 and out 2 or 3 times, never doing anything beyond ramming a running back into the o-line, then, finally, when there's little enough time on the clock where you really CAN say you were just trying to use the clock, then you take a low-percentage shot to Berrian? (Who was being mugged the entire way down the field, by the way.)

The last 10 minutes was awful. Favre just tore them a new one all night. We had one fumble, and up until that point had only punted twice all night and were 8/11 on 3rd down, and one of those was a successful 4th down conversion. Yeah, they shut down the run, but that doesn't matter if you get 0 pass rush against a team that let Favre get hit every other play in weeks past. For much of the game Favre had as many touchdowns as incompletions.
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10/06/2009 @ 08:34:15 AM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 08:15:49 AM
Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 01:55:03 AM
That's ridiculous. For virtually the whole game you guys had 2 big plays, and 14 to show for it. Favre had 6.2 hours to throw every pass to Roger's .2 seconds. The Vikings passed at will on the Packers when it mattered, and the same only became true for the Packers once the Vikings started playing not to lose on offense (note to NFL coaches, this almost always leads to letting the other team back into the game) and playing some sort of middle of the road not-prevent but not actual-defense defense that accomplished neither stopping the normal plays or the big plays.


That's not ridiculous at all. The Packers WERE moving the ball too, they sustained 2 pretty good drives in the first half that ended in turnovers, and hit big on that bomb. Then, they drove right down to the 1 yard line and were only kept out of the endzone because a TE dropped a wide open soft pass right in his hands. The Vikings simply did not outplay the Packers in the first half, at least not by that much. Give me some stats to prove it if you will, but the 28-14 score in the first half was not indicative of how that first half went.


You're right. 28-7 (just after the half) would have been much more indicative. At the half you had one big hit pass where 62 of 67 needed yards came on one play, and a fumble return, paired with 2 turnovers of your own. Turnover 1 came after 66 yards and turnover 2 came after about 26.

33% of your offense in the first half was that one play, and that's factoring in the 29 yard drive with 30 seconds left in the half where all that mattered was not letting you score (after an inexplicable Viking timeout.)
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10/06/2009 @ 09:52:44 AM
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The night was full of little mental-oddities for me though. Part of me was waiting for the moment Brett came out of the visitor's tunnel during pre game warmups, which was always met with raucous boos from Viking fans and every Packer fan in the stands losing their minds. At halftime the people behind me were talking about how "we need to start getting pressure on Favre" and for a split second I was thinking "We're doing ok, aren't we?" before remembering they were Packer fans.

Then when I got home and looked up the game on ESPN and actually saw things like: "B.Favre pass short left to V.Shiancoe for 1 yard, TOUCHDOWN. R.Longwell extra point is GOOD GB 0 Min 7" and it really hit me what a bizarre turn of events this all has been.

Edit: Also to give credit where credit is due, and maybe it's due mostly to the fact that they were out of the game for most of it, or most people were just absorbing the spectacle more than watching the game, but last night was not only one of the most cordial Packer crowds I've ever seen there, but one of the most cordial opposing crowds to date. Usually 50% of the Packer fans are stumble-to-their-seat drunk by kick off and celebrate every gain of more than 2 yards by turning around and getting in people's face, and other such behavior that would have Ghandi using every fiber of his being not to give them a broken nose. The beer guy even made it to our row (25) with 3-4 beers left, which is unprecedented. Usually he's lucky to make it past row 10 before selling out.
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10/06/2009 @ 02:29:46 PM
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Half the "Packer fans" that were there probably wanted Favre to win.

The pi call was lame, and in my book Woodson got the pick on Favre. And for that matter, I think that was the only play all game where Favre threw to Woodson's guy in man-to-man coverage and seemed like Favre was even avoiding him in zone coverage.

I think the pass blocking was as bad as it looked. There were a couple plays were Rodgers should have attempted to throw it away, but he probably felt like he didn't even have time to stand in the pocket long enough to do that. The only reason they were able to do anything is that he was mobile enough to dodge the rushers at least some of the time and be able to step past the rush and throw.

The easiest fix to that might be to run more. They ran 15 times for 66 not couting Rodgers' runs. Which isn't to say they would've done anything if the Vikings had really been playing the run, but that's the point. When the DEs are 5 yards past your tackles 1 second after the snap, run the ball right past them on the inside. Apparently McCarthy went to the "Andy Reid school of play calling" though.

The Packers got demolished on both lines in the passing game aspect, and their safeties stunk. Besides that it was a pretty even game.
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10/06/2009 @ 09:34:03 PM
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who cares about football? Twins win! Twins win
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10/07/2009 @ 07:46:51 AM
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Aside from the game that Favre had and maybe the game that Jared Allen had, I think the biggest thing I took away from the game was that Aaron Rodgers is probably the right quarterback for the packers for right now. And that's not to say Green Bay made the right decision last summer. (I still think they messed that up. The facts were, they were coming off a near-super bowl year and had the opportunity to have two good qbs come back with the added bonus of being able to justify a favre benching if need be. I know others disagreed with that and still do, but that was my take and still is.) But for this year, with this offensive line, it doesn't hurt to have a younger guy who can move and play pretty well at times. Now, I won't say Favre would get completely blown away by the pass rush. He, and other veteran qbs are surprisingly "pocket mobile" despite a lack of ability to run free for more than 5 yards. He'd probably be able to avoid some of the sacks and might not hold it as long as Rodgers does apparently. Still, I wouldn't want my soon-to-be 40 year old qb playing behind that line. The Minnesota line has played pretty poorly at times in the first three games, but never like the packers line played on Monday.

I guess, though, I should amend my statement. BOTH teams seem to have the right quarterback for right now.

The only difference is, once Favre's pants are on, he makes gold records.
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10/07/2009 @ 10:41:05 AM
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Jon Wrote - Today @ 08:46:51 AM
The only difference is, once Favre's pants are on, he makes gold records.


Say it baby!
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10/08/2009 @ 10:05:57 AM
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http://www.theonion.com/content/news/espn_completely_misses_brett_favre
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