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49ers 24 @ Vikings 27
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Sun, 9/27/09 12:00pm
4 Picks - 17% 19 Picks - 83%
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Falcons 10 @ Patriots 26
Final
Sun, 9/27/09 12:00pm
13 Picks - 57% 10 Picks - 43%
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Packers 36 @ Rams 17
Final
Sun, 9/27/09 12:00pm
20 Picks - 87% 3 Picks - 13%
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Redskins 14 @ Lions 19
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Sun, 9/27/09 12:00pm
17 Picks - 74% 6 Picks - 26%
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Giants 24 @ Buccaneers 0
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Sun, 9/27/09 12:00pm
23 Picks - 100% 0 Picks - 0%
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Chiefs 14 @ Eagles 34
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Sun, 9/27/09 12:00pm
0 Picks - 0% 23 Picks - 100%
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Titans 17 @ Jets 24
Final
Sun, 9/27/09 12:00pm
9 Picks - 39% 14 Picks - 61%
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Jaguars 31 @ Texans 24
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Sun, 9/27/09 12:00pm
4 Picks - 17% 19 Picks - 83%
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Browns 3 @ Ravens 34
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Sun, 9/27/09 12:00pm
0 Picks - 0% 23 Picks - 100%
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Saints 27 @ Bills 7
Final
Sun, 9/27/09 3:05pm
20 Picks - 87% 3 Picks - 13%
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Bears 25 @ Seahawks 19
Final
Sun, 9/27/09 3:05pm
21 Picks - 91% 2 Picks - 9%
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Broncos 23 @ Raiders 3
Final
Sun, 9/27/09 3:15pm
15 Picks - 65% 8 Picks - 35%
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Steelers 20 @ Bengals 23
Final
Sun, 9/27/09 3:15pm
21 Picks - 91% 2 Picks - 9%
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Dolphins 13 @ Chargers 23
Final
Sun, 9/27/09 3:15pm
3 Picks - 13% 20 Picks - 87%
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Colts 31 @ Cardinals 10
Final
Sun, 9/27/09 7:20pm
13 Picks - 57% 10 Picks - 43%
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Panthers 7 @ Cowboys 21
Final
Mon, 9/28/09 7:30pm
3 Picks - 13% 21 Picks - 87%
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Week Record13 - 3
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10 - 6
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12 - 4
0.750
12 - 4
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Season Record34 - 14
0.708
31 - 17
0.646
35 - 13
0.729
38 - 10
0.792
Scotttime Record536 - 312
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513 - 335
0.605
530 - 318
0.625
535 - 313
0.631
No-Pack-Vike Record2517 - 1476
0.630
2447 - 1546
0.613
2530 - 1463
0.634
2492 - 1501
0.624
Lifetime Record1213 - 702
0.633
1124 - 791
0.587
1200 - 715
0.627
1194 - 721
0.624
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Week:14 - 2
0.875
Season:38 - 10
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Lifetime:543 - 305
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Week:10 - 6
0.625
Season:32 - 16
0.667
Lifetime:519 - 328
0.613
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Week:13 - 3
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Season:35 - 13
0.729
Lifetime:202 - 114
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Week:9 - 7
0.562
Season:30 - 18
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Lifetime:513 - 330
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Week:11 - 5
0.688
Season:18 - 14
0.562
Lifetime:137 - 114
0.546
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SF @ MIN - No Pick
ATL @ NE - No Pick
GB @ LA - No Pick
WAS @ DET - No Pick
NYG @ TB - No Pick
KC @ PHI - No Pick
TEN @ NYJ - No Pick
JAC @ HOU - No Pick
CLE @ BAL - No Pick
NO @ BUF - No Pick
CHI @ SEA - No Pick
DEN @ OAK - No Pick
PIT @ CIN - No Pick
MIA @ LAC - No Pick
IND @ ARI - No Pick
Cowboys

Week:1 - 0
1.000
Season:24 - 9
0.727
Lifetime:346 - 204
0.629
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Week:8 - 8
0.500
Season:28 - 20
0.583
Lifetime:339 - 240
0.586
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Week:11 - 5
0.688
Season:31 - 17
0.646
Lifetime:317 - 200
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Week:12 - 4
0.750
Season:33 - 15
0.688
Lifetime:323 - 154
0.677
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Week:12 - 4
0.750
Season:36 - 12
0.750
Lifetime:254 - 146
0.635
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Dolphins
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Week:8 - 8
0.500
Season:31 - 16
0.660
Lifetime:292 - 164
0.640
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Rams
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Bengals
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Week:9 - 7
0.562
Season:22 - 26
0.458
Lifetime:230 - 148
0.609
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Week:10 - 6
0.625
Season:28 - 20
0.583
Lifetime:115 - 91
0.558
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Week:12 - 4
0.750
Season:33 - 15
0.688
Lifetime:166 - 88
0.653
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Week:9 - 7
0.562
Season:32 - 15
0.681
Lifetime:194 - 95
0.671
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Week:13 - 3
0.812
Season:34 - 13
0.723
Lifetime:165 - 84
0.663
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Saints
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Week:13 - 3
0.812
Season:34 - 14
0.708
Lifetime:34 - 14
0.708
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Week:9 - 7
0.562
Season:30 - 18
0.625
Lifetime:30 - 18
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Week:11 - 5
0.688
Season:11 - 5
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Lifetime:11 - 5
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Week:12 - 4
0.750
Season:12 - 4
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49ers 24 @ Vikings 27

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Jeremy
Finally, the home opener! Say what you will about Favre not putting up gawdy numbers, the Vikings never needed gawdy numbers, they just needed more than 50% of their passing plays to go somewhere, and Favre's completion percentage means so-far-so-good on that front.


I know the Vikings are a "wear them down, then roll over them" type of team, but this "get nothing done in the 1st half, score a bunch of unanswered points in the second half" approach is going to bite them in the ass eventually.
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Matt
Hopefully the Vikings will decide to play both halves of the game this week. Vikings 24 - 49ers 17.
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Sarah
2 2-0 teams have at it. Favre makes his first official regular season start at the dome as a Viking. Part of my childhood has died.
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Jon
I don't feel confident about this one at all. Minnesota hasn't played even an average team yet, it seems. The defense has looked so-so, the offensive line has looked awful on pass protection. Granted, Favre hasn't had to throw deep yet, but he will eventually. Probably this game. Will he even have enough time? Is our offense competent enough to make the needed plays? At least this one's at home.

Packers 36 @ Rams 17

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Jeremy
Steven Jackson better score like 5 touchdowns. My Fantasy team is awful.
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Matt
I might as well let it ride with the Rams here.
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Sarah
The Packers are a horrible team and shame on all of the analysts who declared the Packers Super Bowl Champions a bit prematurely.
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Jon
St. Louis has scored once this year.

Colts 31 @ Cardinals 10

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Jeremy
I literally have zero thoughts to express here. Just pretend I made a witty comment about Peyton Manning.
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Matt
Monday night one week, Sunday night the next for the Colts.
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Sarah
It's hard to write sentences. Or should I say "Its hard too right sentences"
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Jon
I think Arizona is just going to outscore Indianapolis. Either that or I'm just searching for reasons to pick against the Colts.

Panthers 7 @ Cowboys 21

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Luckily for Jake Delhomme the scoreboard might get in the way of some of his INT's.
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Sunday night one week, Monday night the next for the Cowboys.
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Sarah
Are the Cowboys really that bad? The shine is officially off Tony Romo.
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Jon
Dallas will probably run for about 250 yards and get 2 ints on defense.
fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children.
09/24/2009 @ 11:03:44 AM
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I think it was way premature to pick the Packers for the Superbowl, but it's also premature to call them "horrible". The Bengals only lost week 1 on a fluke, and for all we know are a 12 win team. (Not that the Packers looked spectacular against the Bears either, but still.)
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Jeremy screwed with this at 09/24/2009 11:06:53 am
2887.gifAlex - 3618 Posts
09/24/2009 @ 12:08:28 PM
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Clifton out 2 games
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4499293

AP limited in practice
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4498335
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09/24/2009 @ 01:59:08 PM
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The Detroit Lions failed to sell all their tickets for Sunday's game against the Redskins, meaning there will be a TV blackout in some local markets.

This makes me cry a little inside emoticon
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
09/24/2009 @ 02:21:25 PM
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There was an article, I think on ESPN, about how blackouts are going to be par for the course for many many teams in the future, and how you shouldn't necessarily read anything into that about people's fanhood. People are getting big badder TV's and what not, and it's really gotten to the point where watching a game at home, especially if you have some people over, rivals the experience of going to the game.

I really like going to Vikings games, but the tickets are hardly the only expense. You also have to park and eat. You have to give up all that travel time, which means giving up watching the 3pm games.
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09/24/2009 @ 09:38:43 PM
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can anyone tell me if you win anything at the end of the season for having the most winning picks?
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
09/24/2009 @ 09:59:03 PM
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I can, but I don't want to.emoticon
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09/25/2009 @ 08:53:06 AM
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Jeremy Wrote - Yesterday @ 03:21:25 PM
There was an article, I think on ESPN, about how blackouts are going to be par for the course for many many teams in the future, and how you shouldn't necessarily read anything into that about people's fanhood. People are getting big badder TV's and what not, and it's really gotten to the point where watching a game at home, especially if you have some people over, rivals the experience of going to the game. I really like going to Vikings games, but the tickets are hardly the only expense. You also have to park and eat. You have to give up all that travel time, which means giving up watching the 3pm games.


You don't have to eat the stadium food.

Also, the blackouts only include the immediate local market right? So for Detroit, people in Northern Michigan aren't blacked out, right? If the Vikings got blacked out, it would only be the Twin Cities area, not the rest of Minnesota. Is that correct?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
09/25/2009 @ 09:11:10 AM
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It's a 75 miles radius.

Even if you don't eat the stadium food you have to eat on the road. (and, in many cases, twice.) For us not eating lunch at the stadium would mean we would have to eat lunch around 11 when we hit Hudson. Obviously we could pack lunches if we wanted to, but that isn't really the point.

The point is two fold. 1) There are many costs beyond the cost of the ticket, both financial and opportunity. 2) The days of people at home crowding around their 19 inch TV with a fuzzy rabbit-eared picture are over. Even for the people still using the 19 inch TV with rabbit ears, digital broadcasting gives most people a crystal clear picture. Most people have some form of cable/satellite, and many have HDTVs. Lots of people have fairly expensive setups, the justification for which is sports. If you spend $2500 on a TV and $300 a year on Sunday Ticket, it would be pretty stupid to then go to 4 games.
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
09/25/2009 @ 11:30:49 AM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 10:11:10 AM
The days of people at home crowding around their 19 inch TV with a fuzzy rabbit-eared picture are over.


Darn right; I have a 27 inch TV with fuzzy rabbit-eared picture, with occasional pixelation as the digital converter goes in and out. Hurray 2009!

Supporting Jeremy's stance too, my wife of all people (who isn't what I would call a sports fan) has said her interest in watching the Packers (and football altogether) has increased now that the digital cable has given us much more clear reception, even with our jankyold setup.
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Scott perfected this at 09/25/2009 11:32:20 am
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09/25/2009 @ 12:56:11 PM
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Well it wasn't my stance, I was just saying what the article said, but I do agree with it.
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jon.jpgJon - 2847 Posts
09/26/2009 @ 12:18:03 AM
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JDUB316 Wrote - 09/24/2009 @ 09:38:43 PM
can anyone tell me if you win anything at the end of the season for having the most winning picks?


Well, we thought about handing over control of the website for a year, but instead the winner just gets nothing. Which is probably a net gain for the winner.
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pyzamOmgWtf.jpgJfk10intex - 229 Posts
09/26/2009 @ 09:21:22 PM
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lol.... net gain for the winner? how do u figure? I would think a little star icon to the next to ur name or something. Anyway, im picking the panthers to win because I think it will be a very close game.... Cowboys have given up alot of yards offensivley... and defense has not made any ints or sacks. Packers are going to the super bowl sarah so get that through ur thick skull. and btw... I will beat you or at least come close to beating u this week as well... so dont get too comfy being 1st place of 2009-2010 season.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 12:52:15 PM
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DD is amazing. A-Rod is the sux
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09/27/2009 @ 01:11:42 PM
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Arod needs to learn a little touch.
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09/27/2009 @ 01:19:08 PM
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Oh, and "the sux" has 80% comp, 180 yds and a td. That's not too shabby.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 01:28:35 PM
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He should have 3 TDs. And since the Rams do not appear to have a problem scoring today, those missed points could be very important in the end.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 01:33:05 PM
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I agree with that. Two of those fgs should have been tds.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 01:35:34 PM
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The vikes just got away with one. The 49ers tipped a pass that never hit the ground, but it was ruled incomplete, and the booth didn't review it.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 01:37:45 PM
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Tee hee! Vikings are down 14-13.
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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
09/27/2009 @ 02:08:41 PM
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arod couldn't be putting the ball more squarely in his receivers hands, now they just gotta catch it.
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09/27/2009 @ 02:14:22 PM
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If u say so
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09/27/2009 @ 02:34:24 PM
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no need to catch if he just runs it himself. What I meant about Rodgers hitting his receivers in the hands, is that other than the long passes he has been preety much on the money. With probably 3 drops today.
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pyzamOmgWtf.jpgJfk10intex - 229 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 02:35:58 PM
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Im 8-1!!!!! yay!!! Come one Texans give daddy a perfect record!!!
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 03:09:55 PM
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Ok, I guess those extra points didn't matter, but still. Kudos to our team for beating arguably the worst team in the league. Go Lions!
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pyzamOmgWtf.jpgJfk10intex - My computer is better than yours!!!!
09/27/2009 @ 03:10:11 PM
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37 guests?
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 03:20:05 PM
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Holy crap, Favre's the man.
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09/27/2009 @ 03:20:31 PM
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I need to see that play ASAP, I hate the Vikings.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 04:07:12 PM
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Sooooo onto next week... can we argue it's the biggest game of the decade next Monday until November when Favre returns to GB in purple?
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 06:51:36 PM
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I hope you enjoy your Favre, Viking fans. He's a real treat. Today was the first time the Vikings had a 300 yard passing game since 2005. At least I can say that it was my quarterback that did it for you.

First 3 week analysis as things relate to the Packers/NFC North:
The Packers are probably 1 fluke play away from being 3-0 (and about 4 other plays in the same game, that should any one of those plays have gone the other way, they would have beat the Bengals--who by the way are 1 fluke play themselves away from being 3-0)*
The Vikings are a miracle, vintage Brett Favre drive away from being 2-1, tied with the Packers for First place.
The Bears are 2-1
The Lions are 1-2, and actually don't look that bad.

*this statement is apparently valid as long as I also state that the Packers don't have exclusive rights to this. There, now I can say whatever I want to say. emoticon
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Scott perfected this at 09/27/2009 6:59:14 pm
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09/27/2009 @ 09:56:00 PM
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Jfk10intex Wrote - Today @ 03:35:58 PM
Im 8-1!!!!! yay!!! Come one Texans give daddy a perfect record!!!

Sorry, I seem to have stolen your thunder this week.
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - 3355 Posts
09/27/2009 @ 11:07:40 PM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 06:51:36 PM
I hope you enjoy your Favre, Viking fans. He's a real treat. Today was the first time the Vikings had a 300 yard passing game since 2005. At least I can say that it was my quarterback that did it for you.

First 3 week analysis as things relate to the Packers/NFC North:
The Packers are probably 1 fluke play away from being 3-0 (and about 4 other plays in the same game, that should any one of those plays have gone the other way, they would have beat the Bengals--who by the way are 1 fluke play themselves away from being 3-0)*
The Vikings are a miracle, vintage Brett Favre drive away from being 2-1, tied with the Packers for First place.
The Bears are 2-1
The Lions are 1-2, and actually don't look that bad.

*this statement is apparently valid as long as I also state that the Packers don't have exclusive rights to this. There, now I can say whatever I want to say. emoticon


You can't take credit for a "shoulda/coulda" win against the Bengals, without also applying the same analysis, in reverse, to your win against the Bears.

As for the Favre thing, let me first say that I'm glad that the Vikings signed him and I think he gives the Vikings the best chance for success this year. That said, while the final drive was vintage Favre, part of the reason it was needed was because he played like crap the rest of the game. Now, Jon and I had to go to BWW to watch the game this week so I'm not sure how much of the offensive struggles were his fault vs. bad play calling, QB/WR miscommunication (insert hand swerve gesture here), line protection, etc. (not that I would know this even if I watched the game sitting next to the Vikings Offensive Coordinator, but I feel like I have even less of a grasp than usual, due to the viewing situation). Now, I'm not saying T-Jack or Sage would have done better, maybe they would have, maybe they wouldn't have, but in the interest of fairness, if you're going to dock our win because it took an out-of-the-ordinary effort to win the game, then give credit for the out-of-the-ordinary FG block that put us in a hole, or the out-of-the-ordinary bad game management by Favre in the first place.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/28/2009 @ 06:04:49 AM
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So now my analysis is suposed to be rational. Yes, my first thought after the Vikings "barely" won was that fg block, which was a 10 point swing on a fluke. And of course the packers could have easily lost to the bears. But the would coulda only works when you talk about the positive for your team and the negative for another; otherwise what's the point. And if Favre played like crap then so for the mostpart did the rest Vikings offense, including AP.
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09/28/2009 @ 07:53:33 AM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 06:04:49 AM
And if Favre played like crap then so for the mostpart did the rest Vikings offense, including AP.


Well it's good to see your reflexive defense of favre from any criticism is still in top form.

Prior to the last drive, favre was 18-36, 221 yds, td, int. And even though I think it's a misapplication of the stat, I'll add that according to my calculations, that's a passer rating under 70. Actually it's 67.
Watching the game, there were times when Favre was way off target. Like Matt said, maybe it was due to other factors, but the fact is, there were some bad looking pass plays. He looked good other times, but it was a definite mix. Maybe Matt's use of the word "crap" was a bit much to describe his play, but Favre didn't exactly light it up either.

And I think the point is, that to imply that it's "your qb" putting on a passing clinic for the Vikings is, at best, an inaccurate take on what happened. Aside from him not being your qb anymore, he also happened to play so-so the rest of the game. But, hey, you take the good, you take the bad, you take 'em both and there you have the facts of life. Just be sure to tell the whole story.

In the end though, he did come through with a great drive, a great throw, and Greg Lewis made a great catch. So I'm happy my team made the decision to bring in the best qb available to help our team win.
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09/28/2009 @ 08:06:35 AM
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The Packers are a horrible team and shame on all of the analysts who declared the Packers Super Bowl Champions a bit prematurely.

Shame on you.
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09/28/2009 @ 08:07:49 AM
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JDUB316 Wrote - 09/24/2009 @ 09:38:43 PM
can anyone tell me if you win anything at the end of the season for having the most winning picks?


A nice warm glass of shut-the-hell-up!
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09/28/2009 @ 08:16:02 AM
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Jon Wrote - Today @ 07:53:33 AM
In the end though, he did come through with a great drive, a great throw, and Greg Lewis made a great catch. So I'm happy my team made the decision to bring in the best qb available to help our team win.


Self quote!

Actually I just want to add that I just watched a few condensed plays from the last drive again. That whole thing was pretty awesome. Favre actually made a really nice throw across his body at one point that was quite impressive. Quite the series of events really. And I was reminded that it was actually Favre's first regular season game at home in the dome.

Next week is going to be ridiculous in so many ways. I'm glad it's on Monday because after reading the Yahoo recap of the game, Favre sounds exhausted and beat up a bit.
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09/28/2009 @ 08:18:49 AM
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Jon Wrote - Today @ 07:53:33 AM
Scott Wrote - Today @ 06:04:49 AM
And if Favre played like crap then so for the mostpart did the rest Vikings offense, including AP.


Well it's good to see your reflexive defense of favre from any criticism is still in top form.

Prior to the last drive, favre was 18-36, 221 yds, td, int. And even though I think it's a misapplication of the stat, I'll add that according to my calculations, that's a passer rating under 70. Actually it's 67.
Watching the game, there were times when Favre was way off target. Like Matt said, maybe it was due to other factors, but the fact is, there were some bad looking pass plays. He looked good other times, but it was a definite mix. Maybe Matt's use of the word "crap" was a bit much to describe his play, but Favre didn't exactly light it up either.

And I think the point is, that to imply that it's "your qb" putting on a passing clinic for the Vikings is, at best, an inaccurate take on what happened. Aside from him not being your qb anymore, he also happened to play so-so the rest of the game. But, hey, you take the good, you take the bad, you take 'em both and there you have the facts of life. Just be sure to tell the whole story.

In the end though, he did come through with a great drive, a great throw, and Greg Lewis made a great catch. So I'm happy my team made the decision to bring in the best qb available to help our team win.


I agree, saying he played "like crap" is a bit of an overstatement. They were talking about it on the radio how this game was vintage Favre. Five passes where you go "woah, how did he get that in there." Five passes where you go "woah, how did that guy NOT pick that off." One int, but 2 tds, and some Favre magic.

I don't know if they covered it on TV or not, but Farve was also running down field throwing blocks on any play that took some time to develop. He's a gamer, but I don't think we need week 3 the-play-is-almost-over blocks from him as much as we need him to start weeks 15-17.

As for the first 300 yard passer thing. BFD. First off, even in THIS game, he shouldn't have needed to throw for 300 yards. Now, granted, there is a reason Vikings fans have been saying "if only we had a QB" for a few years, but that said we're still a running team that usually only even attempts 20-25 passes a game.

Carlos44ec Wrote - Today @ 08:07:49 AM
JDUB316 Wrote - 09/24/2009 @ 09:38:43 PM
can anyone tell me if you win anything at the end of the season for having the most winning picks?


A nice warm glass of shut-the-hell-up!


For budgetary reasons, it's no longer warm.
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09/28/2009 @ 08:36:42 AM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 09:18:49 AM
I agree, saying he played "like crap" is a bit of an overstatement. They we're talking about it on the radio how this game was vintage Favre. Five passes where you go "woah, how did he get that in there." Five passes where you go "woah, how did that guy NOT pick that off." One int, but 2 tds, and some Favre magic.


Although, true vintage Favre was generally more slanted toward the good plays. Maybe 1 "what the heck was that" play for every 3 "wow, how did he do that" play.
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09/28/2009 @ 08:38:20 AM
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Jon Wrote - Today @ 08:16:02 AM
Jon Wrote - Today @ 07:53:33 AM
In the end though, he did come through with a great drive, a great throw, and Greg Lewis made a great catch. So I'm happy my team made the decision to bring in the best qb available to help our team win.


Self quote!

Actually I just want to add that I just watched a few condensed plays from the last drive again. That whole thing was pretty awesome. Favre actually made a really nice throw across his body at one point that was quite impressive. Quite the series of events really. And I was reminded that it was actually Favre's first regular season game at home in the dome.

Next week is going to be ridiculous in so many ways. I'm glad it's on Monday because after reading the Yahoo recap of the game, Favre sounds exhausted and beat up a bit.


And even though most fans would look at the Sidney Rice TD and go "yeah, so? That happens 20 times a week." It was great to see. Apparently we had to bring in Favre to add a slant into the playbook. The concept of catching a ball on the move had been completely foreign to the offense.
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matt.jpgMatt - 3355 Posts
09/28/2009 @ 11:47:11 AM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 08:18:49 AM
I agree, saying he played "like crap" is a bit of an overstatement.


Says the King of Hyperbole.
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09/28/2009 @ 11:59:31 AM
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That is 1000 fold unfair.
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09/28/2009 @ 01:36:18 PM
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Matt Wrote - Yesterday @ 11:07:40 PM
or the out-of-the-ordinary bad game management by Favre in the first place.


lol, I guess I missed the transition from ultimate gunslinger to game manager. That must have taken place last season.
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09/28/2009 @ 05:08:49 PM
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Alex Wrote - Today @ 01:36:18 PM
Matt Wrote - Yesterday @ 11:07:40 PM
or the out-of-the-ordinary bad game management by Favre in the first place.


lol, I guess I missed the transition from ultimate gunslinger to game manager. That must have taken place last season.


Yeah, if anything his point was that it was rather ordinary game management, by most people's standards, and certainly his. His point is valid (if you're going to credit the Vikings with a "lucky" win, you have to knowledge that the only needed the luck at the end because of a bunch of bad bounces the rest of the way.) so I didn't feel the need to nit pick too much.

I only agreed with Jon that saying he played like crap went a bit too far because the conversation itself was about Scott exaggerating the outcome too much, the correction of which was exaggerated a little too much in the opposite direction.
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09/28/2009 @ 05:19:46 PM
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Carlos44ec Wrote - Today @ 08:06:35 AM
Sarah
The Packers are a horrible team and shame on all of the analysts who declared the Packers Super Bowl Champions a bit prematurely.

Shame on you.


I know that every team has a chance at going to the Super Bowl at the beginning of the year, but for every media outlet to crown them champs before they had done anything was a little ridiculous. Shouldn't they do some research before doing that? We should've scored more points against the Rams and should've beaten the Bengals if we were super bowl bound. The Packers can feel free to prove me wrong, I have no qualms about that, but to have analysts say that with no basis is a bit frustrating.
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09/28/2009 @ 05:51:33 PM
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My point was that, while understanding that the 49ers are a better team than the Browns or the Lions, if Favre had played more like he did in the first two games (which I think you could call game managing) instead of going 8-19 for 109 yds and an interception (39.1 rating) in quarters 2 and 3, then he probably wouldn't have needed to start up the time machine at the end of the game.

Now, I understand that he will have bad games, and he was very good on the final drive, but ultimately, despite all the media talk about how this in an example of "why they got Farve", we really didn't get him to make game winning touchdown throws with :02 seconds left. We brought him in to keep the offense moving along for the first 58 minutes so that we wouldn't need heroics in the last 2. He struggled* with the former on Sunday, and the Vikings were lucky he had some of the latter to pull off the win.

* Like I said before though, there are multiple other reason besides his play for why the offense struggled but, like politicians, if QBs are going to get credit for the good stuff, they should get credit for the bad as well.
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09/28/2009 @ 09:31:00 PM
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If the Panthers win this game, which is tied atm... I will be Tied for first place with matt.... and this will also be 2 consecutive weeks of being 1st place in picks :D Tied with sarah for overall wins for the season... IF panthers win... alot is riding on this pick..GO PANTHERS
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09/28/2009 @ 10:19:08 PM
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Matt Wrote - Today @ 06:51:33 PM
My point was that, while understanding that the 49ers are a better team than the Browns or the Lions, if Favre had played more like he did in the first two games (which I think you could call game managing) instead of going 8-19 for 109 yds and an interception (39.1 rating) in quarters 2 and 3, then he probably wouldn't have needed to start up the time machine at the end of the game.

Now, I understand that he will have bad games, and he was very good on the final drive, but ultimately, despite all the media talk about how this in an example of "why they got Farve", we really didn't get him to make game winning touchdown throws with :02 seconds left. We brought him in to keep the offense moving along for the first 58 minutes so that we wouldn't need heroics in the last 2. He struggled* with the former on Sunday, and the Vikings were lucky he had some of the latter to pull off the win.

* Like I said before though, there are multiple other reason besides his play for why the offense struggled but, like politicians, if QBs are going to get credit for the good stuff, they should get credit for the bad as well.


There's an old say "you get what you pay for". Of all the things Brett Favre has been in his career, game manager is not one of the roles that comes to mind. Sometimes some of the heroics he comes up with are because of things he did or didn't do earlier in the game. I have never known Favre to be a 75-80% passer, ever. More often he is a 50-55% guy with big plays overshadowing anything negative. It would be hard for me to believe that Favre would have more games like the first two weeks than like the last one. Afterall, Favre's career qb rating is not what he will be remembered for.
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09/28/2009 @ 10:41:40 PM
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Jfk10intex Wrote - Today @ 10:31:00 PM
If the Panthers win this game, which is tied atm... I will be Tied for first place with matt.... and this will also be 2 consecutive weeks of being 1st place in picks :D Tied with sarah for overall wins for the season... IF panthers win... alot is riding on this pick..GO PANTHERS


Sorry, I win this week!
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09/28/2009 @ 11:38:56 PM
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Gah. Ugh. Blarg. Stupid cowboys.
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