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Jets 24 @ Bengals 14
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Eagles 14 @ Cowboys 34
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Ravens 33 @ Patriots 14
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Packers 45 @ Cardinals 51
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Jets 24 @ Bengals 14

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Jeremy
The Bengals didn't look good in the dome. Still, I'll take the home team.
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The Jets kind of backed into the playoffs this year, and although they beat the Bengals pretty good last week, the Bengals didn't really have anything to play for. I'll go with Cincinnati here.
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Sarah
With 75% of these games being repeats from last week, you'd think I'd have a better understanding of how things are going to roll. I don't, and am more confused than I've ever been when it's come to picks. I think I'll just go with all of the teams that won last week although I am pretty sure that's now how I should be doing this.
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Jon
You really think Cincinnati will give up 37 unanswered, at home, with their starters? Child, Please. Still, New York has a really good defense, the advantage in the running game, and it will be cold and there could be flurries. I think it will be close, but the Jets will run to the victory.

Eagles 14 @ Cowboys 34

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This one is a toughy. There's nothing to the "it's hard to beat a team three times" thing, both because it's historically inaccurate, and not that logical, but this one really could go either way. Dallas beat up on them, but plays were there for the Eagles, they just didn't make them. Dallas is also one of those teams that likes to just be terrible every once in a while.
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Unlike the Jets/Bengals game last week, the match-up between these two teams meant a great deal. The Cowboys dominated that one, so I see no reason they won't win this one as well.
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Sarah
Maybe the Cowboys have what it takes to win a playoff game this year. At least one of the teams I hate has to lose. So it's either win win or lose lose for me.
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Dallas could win. I guess. Philadelphia, maybe. I've found I have much less rooting interest due to the fact that I really just want all the teams to lose.

Ravens 33 @ Patriots 14

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They will be missing Wes Welker, but they should be able to get by a not-that-great Ravens team.
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Patriots are 8-0 at home this year, yet I don't want to pick them. Ha ha hee
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A broken finger on a throwing hand? If that truly exists, you'd think it would matter, right? And missing their number one target? Why do I still think New England will win? I don't anymore.

Packers 45 @ Cardinals 51

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Here's hoping the Packers showed the Cardinals too much in the warm up game. There's a good chance Arizona doesn't even show up though.
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Well this game's kind of already been pre-analyzed to death on these here threads, but I'm still excited to see how it all ends up. Of course the Packers will dominate and all will be right in the world. Plus, Chuck season premiere is on a couple of hours after the Packers victory on NBC, so go watch that with your heart full of joy!
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Green Bay is still playing well. Sometimes that kind of thing happens. Then again, I still think Arizona can get it done. Steve Breaston to the rescue! Strangely, though, I'm not sure who I'd really like to win. No, I am actually. I want the Cardinals.
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01/11/2010 @ 11:08:46 PM
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Wap!
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FB_IMG_1499398490950.jpgJDUB316 - 29 Posts
01/12/2010 @ 06:52:44 PM
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I give it to the cowboys, thay beat my eagles 3 times this year.....boo hoo, but they are far from superbowl bound. I predict a slip up in the playoffs.... I can only hope.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4400 Posts
01/16/2010 @ 03:38:19 PM
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Intersting that a certain leader didn't do picks...
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jon.jpgJon - 3155 Posts
01/17/2010 @ 07:01:28 AM
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Another thing we have to avoid that I forgot: Austin getting by our guys like we let happen in the Bears game.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - I believe virtually everything I read.
01/17/2010 @ 06:18:01 PM
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Here's hoping the Vikings get lucky enough to have the Cowboys completely lay an egg like at Lambeau.

Wee!
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4400 Posts
01/17/2010 @ 06:32:18 PM
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Kaeding is not a fan of playoff games...
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01/17/2010 @ 07:17:47 PM
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Seriously, I hope some tragedy didn't befall Scott.
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2887.gifAlex - 3619 Posts
01/17/2010 @ 07:42:00 PM
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I'm 95% sure I was the 2nd person to pick the Jets, so someone dropped the ball there.
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01/18/2010 @ 08:03:45 AM
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JDUB316 Wrote - 01/12/2010 @ 06:52:44 PM
I give it to the cowboys, thay beat my eagles 3 times this year.....boo hoo, but they are far from superbowl bound. I predict a slip up in the playoffs.... I can only hope.


Good call.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - "If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your style."
01/18/2010 @ 08:06:19 AM
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I also had to laugh at Brooking and the comments posted on the blog below:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Vikings-throw-late-TD-in-blowout-Brookin?urn=nfl,214068

Give me a break, ya crybaby!
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01/18/2010 @ 10:35:13 AM
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I saw Brooking run down the sidelines, but no one else noticed. He was pissed.

I really don't understand the kerfuffle that this has caused. The Cowboys turned the ball over on downs twice with the Vikings having the ball inside the 40 with many minutes left on the clock. It was not only probable that the clock milking would end in points on one of the 2 drives, it was likely. I don't see how any amount of passing the ball is seen as "doing too much" the Vikings needed first downs to run the clock down, passing is how they move the ball at any time, let alone when there's 25 players in the box expecting a run. Eventually those first downs were going to wind up near the endzone. I really don't understand what the alternative should have been. Punt from the 8? Kicking the FG is traditionally seen more as running up the score. Generally the sportsman thing is to give the other team a chance to stop you by running a play, which they did*.

It did happen to work out, for that final play only, that the 2 minute warning hit with Dallas out of time outs, with a first down that would have allowed the Vikings to kneel out the clock available on the 3 or 4, but there's still a decent chance that any play ran to get just those yards either wouldn't get enough, or would wind up in the endzone anyway.

If the Cowboy's offense was capable of moving the ball at all, instead of turning it over twice just outside the redzone, the Vikings would have been more than content with running out the clock. Portraying that last drive like the Vikings threw up 3 hail marys from the 50 yard line, with 30 seconds left on the clock, just to get some more points, is unfair.

*Not to mention, it could have been the intent of that play to only get those few yards. We're all assuming the intent of that play from the outcome. The backs were rolling out of the backfield, and Greg Lewis was dragging across just beyond the line of gain. You can't not cover a guy in the endzone, and expect the ball not to be thrown, regardless of the situation.
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01/18/2010 @ 11:14:59 AM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 10:35:13 AM
If the Cowboy's offense was capable of moving the ball at all, instead of turning it over twice just outside the redzone, the Vikings would have been more than content with running out the clock.


So you're argument is that because the Cowboy's offense was terrible, the Vikings needed to score points instead of running out the clock?

Favre is 40 years old, no reason to be in the game and throwing at that point.
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01/18/2010 @ 11:27:59 AM
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If the Cowboys offense was capable of getting the ball more then 35 yards away from their own endzone before turning it over, the Vikings would have had more than 35 yards to go to before running into said endzone with lots of time still left, and eventually would have been able to kneel out the clock. The Cowboys ineptitude/lack-of-caring made it virtually impossible to not "score points instead of running out the clock."

I don't know why Favre, or half the starters for that matter, were still out there, though the passes were quick screens and things like that. Adrian Peterson should never be involved in running out the clock. He's too valuable, and his big weakness is the one thing you don't want to happen in those situations.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 9256 Posts
01/18/2010 @ 11:57:42 AM
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Put it this way. These were their options I've heard people mention.

1) FG
2) Run
3) Pass short of endzone
4) Kneel

To me, 1 and 4 are actually bigger insults/salt in the would. A FG from the 8 would truly have been running up the score needlessly. Kneeling would have said "We know we're like 8 yards from more points, and 4 yards from ending the game altogether, but we're this confident you won't do anything."

Running the ball is a catch 22. On one hand there's a high likelihood it goes no where because everyone would sell out to stop it, on the other hand, those are the situations where, if the rb gets through, there's no one to stop them. Sure you could tell your back to fall at the 1, but that's not really the point. There's a high likelihood this either goes no where and uses no time, or scores.

Passing short of the endzone is in the same boat. It could easily end up a score as well, but either way you don't know this wasn't the intent of the play. 3 of 4 options on the play would have just gotten the first. Shank could easily have just been clearing out the back so Lewis had no one looking at him dragging across the middle on the 3 yard line. Then no one covered Shank.

I'm fine with putting a "this was a needless 'bonus' TD" asterisk next to it, but you can't give a ball to a team twice that close, with that long left, and then go crying about it. I guess I don't really see how playing it, mostly, like it's just another down, rather than some form of total "we've got you losers beat" punch-pulling, is seen as disrespectful. If you're talking about "respect" I'd rather a better entity beat me to a pulp than pity me and start getting cute.
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01/18/2010 @ 12:53:30 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 11:57:42 AM
If you're talking about "respect" I'd rather a better entity beat me to a pulp than pity me and start getting cute.


Semi analogous example, growing up I never played baseball at any higher level than the Park and Rec league. (The level where the adult running it is full time pitcher and there's like a 80% chance a fly ball will hit the ground, even if it's hit to someone.) Given that, I obviously wasn't a Derek Jeter, but I was one of the better players, if for no other reason than because I knew the 2nd baseman didn't actually stand on second and I was capable of making contact at the plate. I had my screw ups, but I never felt worse/smaller/more-dissed than when I struck out one time and the pitcher decided, as they did semi often for the really horrible kids, to give me a fourth strike. One person's sportsmanship is another person's diss.
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01/18/2010 @ 01:02:34 PM
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Alex Wrote - Today @ 11:14:59 AM
Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 10:35:13 AM
If the Cowboy's offense was capable of moving the ball at all, instead of turning it over twice just outside the redzone, the Vikings would have been more than content with running out the clock.
So you're argument is that because the Cowboy's offense was terrible, the Vikings needed to score points instead of running out the clock? Favre is 40 years old, no reason to be in the game and throwing at that point.


This isn't gradeschool. We're not talking about maintaining childrens' self esteem, or letting everyone have a chance at playing fussball. We're talking about professional athletes (ok, they act like children every now and again) who get paid and paid well to be at the top of their game. Why should a team not run up the score? Why should they take out their star athletes so that the second stringers can play out the game?

At the end of the day we're talking about money. People don't pay to see TJack or Sage kneel down, they pay to see the Gunslinger hit his receivers for 6. Piss on how the Cowboys feel, to hell with their billion dollar stadium and their owner. I'm tired of people saying that there needs to be restriction and restraint on scoring points.

If you want to talk about athletes behaving themselves and acting like respectful adults, that's completely different. Professionalism? Absolutely! I think for the most part the Vikes did that yesterday, and should not be ashamed one bit for throwing one more TD pass. If the Cowboys didn't want to be completely decimated, they should have shown up wearing their man-pants.
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01/18/2010 @ 01:35:47 PM
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I never said anything about whether I was for or against running up the score.

Carlos44ec Wrote - Today @ 01:02:34 PM
Why should they take out their star athletes so that the second stringers can play out the game?

Because the game was in the bag and you're one game away from the Super Bowl.

Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 11:57:42 AM
Running the ball is a catch 22. On one hand there's a high likelihood it goes no where because everyone would sell out to stop it, on the other hand, those are the situations where, if the rb gets through, there's no one to stop them.

I actually didn't watch most of the game so I'm not sure exactly how over the game really was by that last drive, but the other big difference between running and passing is keeping the clock running. Looks like all 3 passes were completed so it didn't matter, but late in a blowout game no one wants to see incomplete passes by the winning team.

According to this the game had already been over for 7 minutes

http://wp.advancednflstats.com/nflarchive.php?year=2009&team=MIN&gameid=54810
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children.
01/18/2010 @ 01:51:28 PM
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The first clock running out drive they didn't pass until it was 4th and 7, which was their best shot of getting the yardage to run the clock out, (though Farve threw for the endzone and just missed Rice, again)

The second one they threw WR screen on 2nd and 10, and again later on a 3rd and 6, then a TD.

With the exception of that last pass, in which the clock would have stopped, or not mattered, no matter what happened, they were all glorified runs.
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01/18/2010 @ 02:07:34 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 10:35:13 AM
Portraying that last drive like the Vikings threw up 3 hail marys from the 50 yard line, with 30 seconds left on the clock, just to get some more points, is unfair.


Indeed. It's a good thing nobody actually did this then.
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01/18/2010 @ 02:15:19 PM
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Matt Wrote - Today @ 02:07:34 PM
Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 10:35:13 AM
Portraying that last drive like the Vikings threw up 3 hail marys from the 50 yard line, with 30 seconds left on the clock, just to get some more points, is unfair.


Indeed. It's a good thing nobody actually did this then.


Have you not been on the internet, or watched television? I never said anyone here did that.
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01/18/2010 @ 02:17:16 PM
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Never said you did.
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01/18/2010 @ 02:22:35 PM
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Then what could you be implying?
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01/18/2010 @ 07:18:15 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 12:57:42 PM
If you're talking about "respect" I'd rather a better entity beat me to a pulp than pity me and start getting cute.


Favre should have drop-kicked the extra point.
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