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Colts 31 @ Jaguars 24
Final
Thu, 12/18/08 7:15pm
14 Picks - 93% 1 Pick - 7%
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Ravens 33 @ Cowboys 24
Final
Sat, 12/20/08 7:15pm
5 Picks - 33% 10 Picks - 67%
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49ers 17 @ Rams 16
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Sun, 12/21/08 12:00pm
12 Picks - 80% 3 Picks - 20%
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Cardinals 7 @ Patriots 47
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Sun, 12/21/08 12:00pm
1 Pick - 7% 14 Picks - 93%
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Saints 42 @ Lions 7
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Sun, 12/21/08 12:00pm
14 Picks - 88% 2 Picks - 12%
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Falcons 24 @ Vikings 17
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Sun, 12/21/08 12:00pm
5 Picks - 31% 11 Picks - 69%
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Eagles 3 @ Redskins 10
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Sun, 12/21/08 12:00pm
12 Picks - 75% 4 Picks - 25%
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Chargers 41 @ Buccaneers 24
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Sun, 12/21/08 12:00pm
2 Picks - 13% 14 Picks - 87%
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Steelers 14 @ Titans 31
Final
Sun, 12/21/08 12:00pm
10 Picks - 63% 6 Picks - 37%
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Bengals 14 @ Browns 0
Final
Sun, 12/21/08 12:00pm
8 Picks - 50% 8 Picks - 50%
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Dolphins 38 @ Chiefs 31
Final
Sun, 12/21/08 12:00pm
16 Picks - 100% 0 Picks - 0%
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Texans 16 @ Raiders 27
Final
Sun, 12/21/08 3:05pm
16 Picks - 100% 0 Picks - 0%
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Jets 3 @ Seahawks 13
Final
Sun, 12/21/08 3:05pm
14 Picks - 88% 2 Picks - 12%
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Bills 30 @ Broncos 23
Final
Sun, 12/21/08 3:05pm
0 Picks - 0% 16 Picks - 100%
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Panthers 28 @ Giants 34
Final-OT
Sun, 12/21/08 7:15pm
1 Pick - 6% 15 Picks - 94%
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Packers 17 @ Bears 20
Final-OT
Mon, 12/22/08 7:30pm
4 Picks - 25% 12 Picks - 75%
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Week Record6 - 10
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Season Record154 - 85
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Scotttime Record486 - 287
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Lifetime Record1163 - 677
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IND @ JAC - No Pick
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SF @ LA - No Pick
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Colts 31 @ Jaguars 24

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Jeremy
The Jags better be careful. The Colts have had a few 4th quarter comebacks this year, as opposed to an almost super natural ability to blow games with 5 minutes or less left.
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Sarah
Thursday Night Football + BWW's = winning combination (or at least it's an excuse to get out of the house)
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Matt
The Colts season seem disappointing, but they are most likely going to make the playoffs and Peyton Manning is back in the MVP talks, so I guess it can't be that bad.
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Jon
Feels like I haven't watched Indianapolis in a long time. Go Colts!

Ravens 33 @ Cowboys 24

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Go Flacco! Show how a first year starter QB is supposed to play! (and he didn't even get to sit on the bench for 3 years learning from the best!)
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Matt
I got nothing.
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Jon
I think Dallas can get to Flacco just enough to make a difference.

Falcons 24 @ Vikings 17

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It sure would be nice to have Pat Williams for this one. Jimmy Kleinsasser's going to have to step up.
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Did anyone see HIMYM this week? Hilarious and ironic (coincidental?) that this is the Vikings first game after the episode
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Matt
T-Jac for MVP!!!!
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Jon
Matt Ryan has a great, yet somewhat strange nickname. Matty Ice! Terribly cool nickname. I love it and yet it bothers me just a bit. Here's a thought on Atlanta though. Obviously they've made some key additions and improved. But I think some of their success could also just be due to the subtraction of their coach from last year. Petrino was trying to implement some wacky spread offense or something wasn't he? Kind of like Rich Rodriguez did this year at Michigan. He probably didn't have the players for it, and it's something that takes time. So they probably underperformed last year to a point where they just needed to go back to a normal offense and they'd gain a game or two.

Chargers 41 @ Buccaneers 24

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I hope the Jets can win on the west coast this week.
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Matt
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Jon
I thought the season was over. The football season is still going on?

Panthers 28 @ Giants 34

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I can't decide how I'd rather have this game play out. Weird that the #1 seed is up from grabs in both conferences today.
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It's the pass rushers. I think New York will ride them to success.
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Even though I picked the Giants, a Panthers win here gives the Vikings their best shot at the #2 seed, I think.

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This should be a good'un.

Packers 17 @ Bears 20

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Hopefully the Vikings won't need the Packers' help, but it wouldn't kill the Packers to win a game, would it?
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Next
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My four possible emotional states at the end of this game:

If Vikings win & Bears win = very happy.
If Vikings win & Packers win = mostly happy.
If Vikings lose & Packers win = moderately happy.
If Vikings lose & Bears win = a little nervous, but still somewhat happy.
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Jon
Go for a tie!
face.bmpCarlos44ec - You had me at "Hello"
12/18/2008 @ 07:42:00 AM
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Vikings vs Falcons? Someone do the Dirty Bird dance!
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12/18/2008 @ 08:48:13 AM
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I'd like to see Vikings lose..for the Bears sake, Peterson might have a Monster game with the season on the line!
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scott.jpgScott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on?
12/19/2008 @ 08:00:24 AM
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I might not actually watch the Packer game this week.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - You had me at "Hello"
12/19/2008 @ 09:46:01 AM
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so what's the playoff picture look like- if the packers beat the bears, what does that mean?
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12/19/2008 @ 10:20:44 AM
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The Vikings win the division if they win a game or the Bears lose a game. If the Vikings win Sunday the Packer/Bears game means nothing to anyone, playoff wise, unless it effects the strength of schedule tiebreaker, or something.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
12/19/2008 @ 01:26:03 PM
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Which would only be possible for non-common opponents of the Bears and Packers, meaning Eagles, Rams and Cowboys, Seahawks. So basically it could affect the Cowboys maybe, probably not the Eagles unless some other game in the next 2 weeks ends in a tie so that another team could actually be tied with the Eagles.
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12/19/2008 @ 05:39:33 PM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 08:00:24 AM
I might not actually watch the Packer game this week.
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Loyalist Scott is not going to watch the nationally televised (don't have to go to a bar) Packer game?!?!
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sarah.jpgSarah - How do you use these things?
12/20/2008 @ 08:49:23 PM
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Is anyone else watching the Cowboys-Ravens game? Romo should not play in important games, it's embarrassing. You hear so many good things about him and then to actually watch him play, you begin to wonder why there's so much hype.
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newalex.jpgAlex - Who controls the past now controls the future
12/21/2008 @ 03:41:12 PM
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No!!! On my ESPN Gridiron Challenge team I have AP, and I demand that the Falcons challenge that TD so AP can run it in from the 1 yard line. Jerks.
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2887.gifAlex - 3618 Posts
12/21/2008 @ 05:53:24 PM
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That pass was uncatchable
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flower .jpgPackOne - 1528 Posts
12/21/2008 @ 06:39:13 PM
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I hate when people throw away a Packers' second rounder.
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12/21/2008 @ 08:22:18 PM
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Not a good week for the picks. And what do you mean PackOne?
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12/21/2008 @ 09:34:05 PM
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The Packers get a 2nd rounder if the Jets make the playoffs, I assume that's what he means.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
12/21/2008 @ 10:54:03 PM
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Sarah Wrote - Today @ 08:22:18 PM
Not a good week for the picks.


At a glance, it appears that we collectively did worse than in week 1.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/22/2008 @ 07:17:33 AM
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Sarah Wrote - 12/19/2008 @ 06:39:33 PM
Scott Wrote - 12/19/2008 @ 09:00:24 AM
I might not actually watch the Packer game this week.
emoticon Loyalist Scott is not going to watch the nationally televised (don't have to go to a bar) Packer game?!?!

I don't have cable, so I DO have to go to a bar to watch it. That's why I might not go.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/22/2008 @ 07:19:12 AM
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after seeing some of the Vikings-Falcons game, it appears that the Vikings just have no desire to play post-season football. Has anyone ever seen so many fumbles that cost a team so many yards?
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
12/22/2008 @ 09:54:28 AM
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Yeah, I wouldn't say desire played a part, but it certainly reached a point of absurdity. There was a lot of positive things to happen. T-Jack ate them alive, Shiancoe played like a man possessed, the Falcons averaged 150 rushing yards per game and the Vikings held them to 98 without Pat Williams, after a shaky start the defense played well. All in all they put the ball on the ground 7 times and still had a chance to tie the game in the end against a team that's still alive for the 2 seed. Really though the list of things to go well really just serve to highlight how sad it was that they couldn't put the season away.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/22/2008 @ 09:57:23 AM
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Exactly. For how many boneheaded plays they made (a season's worth and then some), they were still only 7 points from a tie (I didn't see the end of the game, so I don't know if the score is necessarily indicitave of how close it was).
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12/22/2008 @ 10:08:45 AM
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Yeah, the game really was that close. In fact on the Falcons last TD Matt Ryan fumbled the ball on the one yard line. Darren Sharper tried to pick up the ball in the endzone instead of just falling on it (or knocking it out of the back of the endzone), and two other Vikings batted it around before a Falcon jumped on it for the TD. So not only did the Vikings put the ball on the ground 7 times, the Falcons only fumble actually scored them a TD, and the game still came down to a stalled 2 minute drill. It's hard to be positive but in a weird way this game left me hopeful for the near future. These last couple games were looking to be our toughest of the season, or at the very least a representation of who we'd play in the playoffs, and we really beat up the teams. It's just too bad the Vikings so consistently beat themselves.
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12/22/2008 @ 10:35:08 AM
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I thought it looked like classic Viking football. That makes me very happy.
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12/22/2008 @ 09:17:01 PM
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The Packers have held the Bears to 48 total yards in the first half. Wow.
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12/22/2008 @ 09:22:30 PM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 09:17:01 PM
The Packers have held the Bears to 48 total yards in the first half. Wow.


So you're watching it on your computer? Go Bears!
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12/22/2008 @ 10:37:58 PM
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An actual pass play on 3rd and 8 instead of running up the middle for 1 yard to setup the 50 yd FG? I'm so confused!?!

Edit: That's more like it. Frickin ardtards
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12/22/2008 @ 10:48:43 PM
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God damn Bears....is there one break they can't catch when their special teams are involved?
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12/22/2008 @ 10:56:54 PM
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Look, I know we could have and should have won it ourselves, but would it be so much to ask for you worthless sacks of shit to not epically collapse with 5 minutes to go EVERY week?

Edit: Also, Mason Crosby should light himself on fire and go play in traffic.
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12/22/2008 @ 11:18:39 PM
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When you put both of the games this weekend together it's hard not to think the Vikings are just plain and simply cursed. Just give the division to the Bears and let's not get our hopes up.
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12/23/2008 @ 07:13:08 AM
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Sarah Wrote - Yesterday @ 10:22:30 PM
Scott Wrote - Yesterday @ 10:17:01 PM
The Packers have held the Bears to 48 total yards in the first half. Wow.
So you're watching it on your computer? Go Bears!

I went to the gym at my apartment complex and watched the first half.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/23/2008 @ 07:18:03 AM
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It seems almost poetic and once again it is most likely the Cardinals that knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. Unfortunately, this year the Packers aren't the beneficiaries. But the Vikings seemed to have the North all but wrapped up a week ago, and now the Bears need to beat the Texans and the Vikings need to beat the Giants.

edit: commentor was on crack at time of comment.
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12/23/2008 @ 07:18:33 AM
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Jeremy Wrote - Yesterday @ 11:56:54 PM
Look, I know we could have and should have won it ourselves, but would it be so much to ask for you worthless sacks of shit to not epically collapse with 5 minutes to go EVERY week? Edit: Also, Mason Crosby should light himself on fire and go play in traffic.

When you can't run the ball, and you can't stop the run, yes, this is WAY too much to ask.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - No one's gay for Moleman
12/23/2008 @ 09:40:17 AM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 07:18:03 AM
It seems almost poetic and once again it is most likely the Cardinals that knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. Unfortunately, this year the Packers aren't the beneficiaries. But the Vikings seemed to have the North all but wrapped up a week ago, and now the Bears need to beat the Texans and the Vikings need to beat the Giants.


Yes, 35-14 victories have a way of putting the kibosh on your season. I'll assume you mean Falcons, but then that didn't help the Packers, so maybe you did mean Cardinals and just have no idea what you're talking about. emoticon Also, couldn't you say "It seems almost poetic and [sic] once again it is most likely the [Team A] that knocked [Team B] out of the playoffs." about pretty much any two teams? I bet you could find one, elimination/turning-point/meaningful-in-hindsight game since you seem to be granting yourself 10 years to make a point. The Falcons have also knocked the Packers out of the playoffs since they ended the Vikings run a decade ago.

Three weeks ago the Vikings needed two wins, two Bears losses, or one of each. They are 1-1 in their toughest 3 game stretch and the Bears have narrowly escaped with 2 wins against 2 fairly bad teams. The Vikings now go on to play the #1 seed, reigning Superbowl Champs, who are almost as "famous" for not resting their players in week 17 last year as they were for eventually winning the Superbowl, and the Bears go on to play the Texans. I'm not sure this is/would-be the epic "collapse" you're implying it would be. The Bears also seemed to have it "all sewn up" 4 weeks ago.

All it really necessarily implies is the Vikings built a lead while the Bears played tougher games, and now the situation is reversed, except we have to play the Giants and they got Philly. Both the Bears and Vikings lost to the Falcons, beat the Saints, and beat the Packers at home.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/23/2008 @ 10:50:23 AM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 08:18:03 AM
It seems almost poetic and once again it is most likely the Cardinals that knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. Unfortunately, this year the Packers aren't the beneficiaries. But the Vikings seemed to have the North all but wrapped up a week ago, and now the Bears need to beat the Texans and the Vikings need to beat the Giants.


Ok, I have no idea what I was thinking. Feel free to 0 nut me on this comment, because I just completely blanked out thinking that the Vikings played the Cardinals this year. I'll try to make up for it with some extremely witty comments in the coming days and weeks.

I didn't mean to imply that the Vikings collapsed this week, and since you put it in quotes ("collapse"), you apparently thought that I actually said it. I was actually trying to pay the Vikings a compliment, in that I thought they were going to win it.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
12/23/2008 @ 11:07:56 AM
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The Vikings DID just play the Cardinals, last week, and they kicked the crap out of them.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/23/2008 @ 11:16:22 AM
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Although, to be fair, 7 fumbles is inexcusable regardless of who you are playing.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
12/23/2008 @ 11:36:32 AM
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Dear NFL writers,

Next week is the last week of the season. Stop using the word "clinch" in regard to the situations that can play out next week.

Thank you.
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matt.jpgMatt - Washington Bureau Chief
12/23/2008 @ 12:13:58 PM
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Dear Jeremy,

Lighten up. emoticon

Thank you and Merry Christmas.
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2887.gifAlex - Refactor Mercilessly
12/23/2008 @ 12:55:46 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 11:36:32 AM
Dear NFL writers,

Next week is the last week of the season. Stop using the word "clinch" in regard to the situations that can play out next week.

Thank you.


I don't get it. What's wrong with the word "clinch"?

–verb (used with object)
1. to settle (a matter) decisively
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
12/23/2008 @ 01:13:28 PM
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Clinch: to assure the winning of <scored a touchdown to clinch the game>

Clinch is used in the process of an on going event to note when someone has an insurmountable lead. As the game is going a touchdown can clinch a victory, after the fact the word clinch is needless, they GOT the win, they didn't "clinch" anything.

It's week 17, the Vikings don't "clinch" the NFC North with a win or Chicago loss, they WIN the NFC North with either of those things. It's officially over.

The only gray area, I suppose, is that we're talking about something that will be officially over after one remaining increment, but it's still "ongoing" for now. So I suppose an appropriate analogy would be lining up for a field goal with 3 seconds left on the clock, down by 1 or 2. You wouldn't often hear the word "clinch" used, because the matter will be settled, one way or another, even though for the time being the game is ongoing.

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newalex.jpgAlex - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated
12/23/2008 @ 04:06:34 PM
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I think you're confusing connotations with actual definitions. It is not grammatically incorrect to use the word after the fact. Otherwise there wouldn't be a past tense of the word. "The team clinched the win when they scored a touchdown in the 4th quarter."

Plus, in some of the early games it may still be appropriate with the connotation in that a win for some teams may clinch things regardless of other on-going or not yet started games.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
12/23/2008 @ 04:19:36 PM
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The definition is "to assure the winning of." The fact that there's a past tense changes diddly, nor did I imply it did. The fact that other teams can effect your outcome is closer to a situation where it would work, but even then the matter is still settled. If the Vikings played at 3 and the Bears lost at noon that would also win the Vikings the division, though that would be closer to the meaning of the word, I guess, but that's irrelevant because that's not how it's being used.

Replace the word with the definition. "The Vikings can assure the winning of the NFC North with a win on Sunday." It's makes sense, it's just not the word you want to use. "The Vikings can win the NFC North with a win on Sunday," is much better.

Like many words there are multiple words that COULD work, that aren't flat out wrong, but also aren't the best, most succinct word.
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2887.gifAlex - Who controls the past now controls the future
12/23/2008 @ 05:38:36 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 04:19:36 PM
Replace the word with the definition. "The Vikings can assure the winning of the NFC North with a win on Sunday." It's makes sense, it's just not the word you want to use. "The Vikings can win the NFC North with a win on Sunday," is much better.


It's not the word that you want everyone else to use. Don't tell me what words I want to use emoticon

At any rate, the only thing the Vikings will be clinching is one more late season collapse to add to their collection.
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12/23/2008 @ 06:24:39 PM
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Ditka-to-sub-in-for-Blagojevich-?urn=nfl,131029

Edit: Maybe this will work?
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12/23/2008 @ 06:27:03 PM
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scott.jpgScott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue.
12/23/2008 @ 06:33:32 PM
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Jon, feel free to chime in with your disappointment in the level of commentary here.
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12/23/2008 @ 11:26:51 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 01:13:28 PM
Clinch: to assure the winning of <scored a touchdown to clinch the game>


Of course, other definitions are: 1. to make final or irrefutable; 2. to settle (a matter) decisively. I don't think these are incompatible with how the word is being used.

Alex Wrote - Today @ 05:38:36 PM
Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 04:19:36 PM
Replace the word with the definition. "The Vikings can assure the winning of the NFC North with a win on Sunday." It's makes sense, it's just not the word you want to use. "The Vikings can win the NFC North with a win on Sunday," is much better.


It's not the word that you want everyone else to use.


Indeed.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
12/24/2008 @ 09:57:14 AM
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The following is a multiple choice quiz. There may be more than one acceptable answer, choose the answer that works best.

1) Brett Favre has ___ a Superbowl
a)accomplished
b)won
c)clinched
d)gained

2) The first team to score in sudden death overtime ___ the game.
a) wins
b) secures
c) conquers
d) clinches
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/24/2008 @ 10:58:07 AM
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I really don't think you are comparing apples to apples. Maybe there's some middle ground to this discussion, eh Jeremy?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
12/24/2008 @ 12:59:54 PM
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Where would the middle ground be exactly? Winch? All words with similar definitions are not always interchangeable, and even when they are there's usually one that fits best into the context in which it's being used. In the sports world "clinch" is a less official event than "win," and the season will be officially over this week.

I didn't say these people should be fired, or hanged for their crime against humanity, because they used the word clinch. Jesus people, lighten up indeed.
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