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Buccaneers 0 @ Patriots 28
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Chiefs 17 @ Giants 27
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Broncos 28 @ Bills 17
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Jets 20 @ Dolphins 24
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49ers 9 @ Jaguars 10
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Panthers 27 @ Saints 10
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Seahawks 28 @ Titans 24
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Cowboys 7 @ Redskins 35
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Chargers 26 @ Colts 17
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Steelers 18 @ Vikings 3
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Browns 9 @ Raiders 7
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Bengals 41 @ Lions 17
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Eagles 17 @ Rams 16
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Falcons 3 @ Bears 16
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Buccaneers 0 @ Patriots 28

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Jeremy
New England had come back from the dead lately and I don't quite get Tampa yet.
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These two teams account for the last four Super Bowl wins, and yet I have no interest whatsoever in this game.
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I was on the fence about this one in a way, but I like New England at home.
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Sarah
Put a fork in New England, because no matter how hard they try, they are not going to a Super Bowl this year, unless they all crowd into Brady's basement to play Madden 06 on his new XBOX 360. Am I right?

Chiefs 17 @ Giants 27

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This is a toughy, in fact I can't even remember who I picked. No, I wont scroll up and look.
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Trent Green will throw 4 INTs, 3 of them will be returned for Touchdowns.
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Giants' defense is not exactly strong.
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fa la la la la

Broncos 28 @ Bills 17

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All I need is for Plummer to throw about 10 touchdowns. Is that so much to ask?
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More Jake Plummer press, that's what we need. I'm sure he's totally not sick of people backhand complimenting him by asking him how he's managed to not suck this year.
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Have you seen Houston's schedule? They are purposely losing. Jerks.

Steelers 18 @ Vikings 3

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Now this is a test alright. I have a feeling it'll be up to the Vikings D again. Want to know what I'm surprised isn't getting more press? The Vikings still have a shot at the division, yes. But furthermore every team leading their division right now is tied other than the Seahawks. So although people are saying it's conceivable for the Vikings to leap from the Bears I'm surprised it's not being talked about that that could conceivably give them the #2 seed.
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I still say they should fire Mike Tice.
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Can we stop Pittsburgh from running?
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Can you believe it's almost Christmas? I have sooo much stuff left to do.

Falcons 3 @ Bears 16

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I don't know who I want to win/lose. In a way this is a win win game for the Vikings. I guess I'll be rooting for Atlanta because I want the division title.
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Pass again
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Thomas Jones is crucial.
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Stupid Saturday games, too much commenting. Defense wins championships, but you need some sort of offense on the field.

Packers 3 @ Ravens 48

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Taking a 4 win dome team on the road in the frigid outdoors into OT is impressive. That'll silence the naysayers. Luckily it doesn't matter because Houston is officially throwing games at this point.
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The key for the Ravens will be to throw the ball to Todd Heap.
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Green Bay looked terrible, but how can I trust the Baltimore offense to win this game?
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Well, we might as well as go for broke now.
jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/16/2005 @ 11:48:32 AM
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It looks like the late games will make or break me in the "catch up to Jon" sweepstakes.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/16/2005 @ 02:31:11 PM
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The Onion 2005 Sports Year in Review

Aug. 1—Minnesota Vikings head coach Mike Tice makes a preseason promise that the character and behavior of the players on this years' team will soon make the fans forget the shameful off-field antics of Randy Moss.

Sept. 28—White Sox catcher A.J. Pierzynski, using his free hand while catching to hold a copy of The Big Fat Book Of 1,001 Insults, humiliates all Seattle Mariners batters with his distinct brand of heckling.

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Dec. 11—The Houston Texans, searching desperately for a way to improve and threatened by the potential for awfulness displayed by the Green Bay Packers, voluntarily forfeit the remainder of the 2005 season in order to draft Heisman Trophy-winning running back Reggie Bush of USC.
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newalex.jpgicbeast - 3618 Posts
12/17/2005 @ 12:23:51 AM
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Here's an excerpt from Bill Simmon's latest:


"Q: I can't believe I heard this, but Paul Maguire said on Sunday night that he can think of ONLY one QB you don't want to give the ball back to in a tie game with 2 minutes left -- Brett Favre!!!! Has he heard of Tom Brady? Hasn't Favre thrown about 75 game killing INTs in the past few years? With this in mind, what are the five worst announcer comments this year?
-- Tom B., Duxbury, Mass.


 


 


SG: Not only did I hear the same comment, I remember thinking to myself, "Does he mean that you don't want to give Favre the ball in a tie game if you're a Packers fan?" Unbelievable. With the way broadcasters treat Favre these days -- and it's not just the Sunday night guys, it's everyone -- we may have to change the phrase "treating him with kid gloves" to "the Favre Treatment." ....


I was watching the game with my brother and I made the exact same comment that the one QB I didn't want to give the ball too was Favre.  Simmons continues to rag on Favre, you'll have to read that part for yourself.  I think he's a bit too harsh, especially with the Brooks comparison.

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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
12/17/2005 @ 11:32:49 AM
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How's this for a slap of reality?  I'm checking out team statistics this morning while setting my ff liineups, so I go to defensive team passing and just about choke on my morning breath when I see the Packers are first in passing yards per game.  They're 24th against the rush by yards, but are 3rd in rushing TDs.  Put this year's defense with last year's offense and we'd have a team.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Broadcast in stunning 1080i
12/17/2005 @ 12:06:57 PM
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You've scored more points than anyone in the division and are in last. That's gotta say something about the d.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4111 Posts
12/17/2005 @ 12:08:56 PM
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And we've allowed the 2nd fewest points.  That's not fair.  I hate ya'll.
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2887.gificbeast - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated
12/17/2005 @ 12:11:48 PM
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I don't count the Saints game.  So they still only have two wins and 52 less points.  That should make the numbers look better.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4111 Posts
12/17/2005 @ 12:14:16 PM
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No, 255-255, I think that's pretty cool, gotta stay positive and look at the neatness of those numbers.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Super Chocolate Bear
12/17/2005 @ 10:16:55 PM
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I'm officially declaring myself the coolest person ever, although you all might not realize until tomorrow.
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12/18/2005 @ 09:40:31 AM
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I say not.
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newalex.jpgicbeast - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose
12/18/2005 @ 12:05:33 PM
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Rizzle-fazzle!  The guide said the Chargers-Colts game was going to be on, but it's the fricking Vikings instead.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/18/2005 @ 05:41:06 PM
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So I'd say the Vikings failed the test.  They played the way they did in the first 7 games of the season.  Just plain awful.  And Brooks Bollinger finally had a good game.  And with the Texans win, the Packers are still in the running for the Reggie Bush Trophie.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/18/2005 @ 10:29:52 PM
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if the Bears win tonight, the Vikings can almost say goodbye to the division title (almost, the Bears need to lose either to the Packers and the Vikings which they probably will beat both teams, and the Vikings must win both games).  The wildcard is possible, but Atlanta currently holds the tie breaker and will be in the 6th playoff spot when they finally lose tonight.  Currently Minnesota is in the 7th spot holding the tie breaker with Dallas.  Basically, Minnesota must win one more game than Atlanta and at least as many games as Dallas.  This is all still possible, so unfortunately the Vikings still might make the playoffs, but probably not as division winners.

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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/18/2005 @ 10:36:39 PM
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Just for the crazy reason that it actually happened, I count the Saints game.  The reason the packers are number 1 against the pass is because they are almost always losing.  Teams don't have to pass the ball when they are winning.  However, the Packers are 7th in the league in defensive yards per attempt passing, so I guess it means their doing pretty good.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/18/2005 @ 10:39:16 PM
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Plus just looking over the teams they had to play only the bengals leap out as a "passing" team.
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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
12/19/2005 @ 12:14:40 PM
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question of the week:


ok, hypothetical situation gives the Packers the number 1 pick.  Should/will they pick Reggie Bush?  Or should they pick somebody else?


Related question:  In the first round of the NFL draft, would you say it is a general consensus that coaches and GMs draft primarily for need or do they look to draft the best available player at that draft position?  Remember, this question applies only to the first round of the draft.

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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 12:18:01 PM
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By the way, I'm ver dissappointed in my lack of kudos for my awesomeness.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 12:25:21 PM
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in response to bill simmons.  Favre is in 3rd place all-time in 4th quarter comebacks.  So while some might say that he threw some interceptions in situations where his team was already trailing late in the 4th quarter, that is basically a biased character defemation because they are refusing to acknowledge that the QB in question has been successful in that situation more than almost every quarterback that has ever played the game.  That would be like pointing out the fact that Hank Aaron struck out 274 times between 1965-1967 but refusing to point out that he homered 115 times during that span.
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newalex.jpgicbeast - Who controls the past now controls the future
12/19/2005 @ 12:27:55 PM
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Despite the fact that it is very relevant to the Packers, I refuse to discuss this topic going into week 16 of the season.  Other than to say that the first pick in the draft will be Bush, regardless of which team has it.

Which won't be the Packers cause they are going to put on a whooping tonight.  I just feel it coming.

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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - I believe virtually everything I read.
12/19/2005 @ 12:41:28 PM
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They best save any whoopings for next week.
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12/19/2005 @ 12:43:24 PM
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Ouch. I just got oblitered in the playoffs in all three of my public leagues.  55 to 111, 37 + GB Def to 98 + Heap (Jonathan Wells, seriously?), and 61 + Gado to 93 (in the frickin consolation bracket!).  Although I said 2 weeks ago that Steve Smith should get consideration for MVP if the Panthers won out, and then they lost right away, he's still getting my vote because all 3 of my opponents had him and his guady 17 points.
In one of my leagues a team is 13-1 and only averaging 83 points per game, and I got 93ed in the consolation bracket.  It's so on next year.

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jon.jpgJon - 2866 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 12:46:24 PM
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First of all, the way I heard it, Washington is currently in 6th not the falcons.


Secondly, Scott, on the 4th quarter favre thing, what does his 4th quarter greatness of last decade have to do with giving him the ball now?  Everyone knows he was automatic in the last two minutes in his prime, but you can't argue that he's even close now.  I would pitch to Hank Aaron in a big game situation, because he's not as good as he used to be.  Neither is Favre.

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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 01:37:18 PM
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the unnamed comment is mine, i remembered the first time but not the second
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 01:37:47 PM
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ok fine about the favre thing.  But I don't think the 75 game killing int's is accurate either.


the NFC wildcard picture is extremely confusing.  I think there are like 4 or 5 teams that are currently tied for the 6th wildcard spot, and most likely the outcome won't be clear until after all of next weeks games.  Crazy, that applies to the worst place team as well.

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12/19/2005 @ 03:08:52 PM
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The playoff scenerios dont specify it but "A Viking Loss" is in there enough to lead me to beleive they Vikings would likley be eliminated with a loss to Baltimore. At least then they would have time to start elimidating again.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 03:57:46 PM
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most are preceded by "a win" which means that if the vikings lose to Balitmore, they have to hope that the Cowboys and Falcons and whoever else loses as well, then it would come down to the final week.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Pie Racist
12/19/2005 @ 04:27:29 PM
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Right, if all the key teams lose then the Vikings would be fine. That's why I said likely. Really I was just getting at the fact that there has to be some scenario where it wouldn't even come down to the last week.
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2887.gificbeast - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so!
12/19/2005 @ 08:08:17 PM
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How could Michaels not mention Walker when talking about how the Packers ended up where they are?  That's still the single most detremental thing that happened to the team this year.  And did he age 10 years since last week?  Cause he looks like it.
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 08:09:13 PM
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Offsides on the kickoff.  Special teams, they're FANtastic.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 08:17:57 PM
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That was Sarah's reaction to the comment too. I believe she added something about Ahman doing "bupkus".

BJ Sander got JACKED UP.

I enjoy the extremely late intentional grounding call. It's as if the refs had a little pow wow on whether or not they're actually allow to call penalties on Favre.
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matt.jpgMatt - 3373 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 08:21:15 PM
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Todd Heap puts me back into 1st place.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist
12/19/2005 @ 09:23:16 PM
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What's his deal?
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 09:26:20 PM
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Apparently my dyslexia was kicking in earlier.  I meant to say the Packers are going to having a whooping put on them.  Is Favre going for some sort of interception record?

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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 10:15:50 PM
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Well and it's not like they're the dback making nice plays or jumping the routes. They're almost always "What the hell was that?" passes.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 10:19:46 PM
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What did Driver do there?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Super Chocolate Bear
12/19/2005 @ 10:24:50 PM
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I'm going to go out on a limb and agree with Madden that "He [Favre] can be Brett Favre for the rest of his life"
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/19/2005 @ 10:59:35 PM
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Now I didnt run the numbers, I just made a cursosry glance, but I think I see something the Packers have in their favor. For the draft ties are broken by who sucked the most despite the easier schedule. Glancing at SF and Houston's schedules they look a lot harder than the Packers'
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newalex.jpgicbeast - Who controls the past now controls the future
12/19/2005 @ 11:09:18 PM
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Alright, I'm thinking a 5 way tie is likely.  The Packers, Jets, and Saints don't win again, the 49ers beat the Rams and then lose to the Texans.  Figure out that tie braker.

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reign_of_fire_150.jpgMicah - 584 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 09:18:02 AM
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Yes but then the Saints would have to lose to the Lions.

Matt, you and your Todd Heap will see me next week.  Jon's love of my team is enough to pull me through to the end.
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12/20/2005 @ 09:30:16 AM
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Ohhhh Micah!
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 01:14:54 PM
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Tice is a funny, funny guy.
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2887.gificbeast - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated
12/20/2005 @ 01:39:48 PM
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The Daily Quickie has a little section on Favre and the Packers, and though I don't appreciate the tone, I think the point is interesting.  Favre basically has 3 choices.  Retire, play some more on a crappy Packers team (the Marino path, except the Dolphins weren't that bad), or play for a contender (the Montana path, okay maybe they weren't really contenders since they choked in the playoffs every year but still).

At this point, I don't think anyone could blame him for any of those 3 choices.
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2887.gificbeast - Refactor Mercilessly
12/20/2005 @ 01:44:31 PM
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I check out the whole page before posting, there's actually a poll with those three options.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Pie Racist
12/20/2005 @ 01:51:43 PM
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What I find interesting is that we doesn't want to go to another team, but it has nothing to do with some altruistic view of the Packers or "Wanting to finish with his team". It's only because the expectations would be so high for that new team that anything short of a Superbowl would be failure. The Packers should improve next year, assuming the players stay healthy, since as we know the Packers are the only team to have players injured this year. I also think the Bears are having another one of their fluke years. So the division should just as crapriffic as it started out next year, so who knows. Clearly they aren't a player or two away from being good and clearly they are boned if Favre leaves and Rogers gets the nod.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 01:53:29 PM
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Really the two situations (Fans selling season tickets and selling tickets worth a bajillion dollars to a game you don't care about) are different, but I still shook my head a little when I read his comments.
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scott.jpgScott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone!
12/20/2005 @ 02:13:39 PM
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Since when does blaming  the Packers bad season very much on injuries suggest that no team suffers injuries.  Of all the injuries, if Javon Walker hadn't gone down I think this season would have been a completely different story.  I'm talking 7-7 or 8-6 at this point, and I'm being serious.  I think the Packers are a player or two away.  If you look objectively at their season, that's how I see it.  Anyway, not that it matters.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 03:49:59 PM
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The Vikings have had more starters than any other team other than the Cardinals (And this doesn't figure in Birk, and Smith, arguably their two biggest losses). You never hear anyone bring that up, but we're reminded 7,344,842 times a game about all the injuries Brett Favre has had to deal with happening around him.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 04:39:16 PM
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Also Tice is right on about the video board. We've noticed and commented on the same thing.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 04:44:10 PM
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what video board?


So you are saying that the Packers would be no better even if Walker hadn't gotten hurt?  A top 5 receiver stats-wise a year ago.  Oh, ok.  Considering that 6 of the Packers 11 losses came down to 4 points or less, I need a pretty good argument to convince me of your point, because right now you are saying that it would make no difference.

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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 04:46:21 PM
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No. I'm saying every team lost a "Javon Walker" or two, so quit yer bitchin'
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 04:57:44 PM
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So is no team able to credit their losses to injuries?  I don't get it.  If I say that the Packers 3-11 record is due in large part to injuries, am I implying that they are the only team stung by injuries?  No.  I think you are making things up.  Lots of teams can credit their bad seasons to injuries.  The Jets lost Peddington and that's pretty much ended their season, but nobody on this site talks about anyone but the Vikings and Packers, so of-freaking course I'm going to talk about the Packers injuries, because of those 2 teams, the Packers have been hurt by injuries more in the sense that injuries have lead almost directly to a 3-11 season.  Plus, this is all free, so I'm gonna say what I want.  Fart.......crap.......dang
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jon.jpgJon - many posts
12/20/2005 @ 05:25:37 PM
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Scott brings up a good point.  In the new year, Page 3 will be a pay site.  And we will charge by the word.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 06:31:55 PM
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My point isn't that no team can blame injuries. It's that it's all relative and in fact EVERY team could blame virtually every loss on an injury. Yeah the Packers lost a lot of close games and perhaps Javon could have made a difference, but all those teams you lost to could have had one of their key guys back too and offset that. The Packers aren't any worse off than a lot of other teams.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4111 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 06:47:37 PM
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perhaps... but then again Walker isnt a very good player, so i'm sure he would've made no impact at all.
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2887.gificbeast - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret
12/20/2005 @ 08:12:27 PM
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Hey, when I insert a smily and then hit backspace, it refreshes the page or something and I lose my comment.

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jon.jpgJon - 2866 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 08:20:10 PM
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Walker ISN'T a good player.  Look at his stats.


4rec.  27yds.  0td

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2887.gificbeast - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret
12/20/2005 @ 08:21:16 PM
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Alright, retyping this entire thing again. 


The Packers were not the only team to have injuries, but losing Walker was one of the most detrimental injuries as far as impact on the team.  That left them with Driver (good), Ferguson (sucks, injury prone), Chatman (sucks, bit of weiner), and Murphy (mid round rookie).  Walker was the only big play, just toss up a prayer and he'll go get it guy, so without him the deep passing game has been non-existent, teams were able to stack up against the run, they got into lots of 3rd and long, so Favre decided to throw 800 interceptions.  I think the Vikings started with Burleson and Marcus.  Nate went down, but they had Taylor, Koren, and Williamson, each of whom are better than any of the Packers fill-ins.  I'm not trying to excuse the Packers, that's just the facts.  Certainly it's the Packers own fault for sticking with Ferguson, not having better receivers to start the season, and for not picking anyone up.  Even now they only have 4 WRs on the team, which is completely inexplicable.  In Madden, I usually have 6.

People who only comment once a week would be in favor of charging by the word.

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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/20/2005 @ 09:05:03 PM
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That thing was a pain in the ass anyway.
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2887.gificbeast - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated
12/20/2005 @ 10:00:18 PM
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My favorite part about the Tice thing is that they lost the game and stand a good chance of not making the playoffs now. I can see him being more vindicated if they had won the game, but why blame fans for not showing up when they just blew a big game? The fans that were there should be demanding a refund.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
12/21/2005 @ 04:49:28 PM
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explain the video board thing to me? I don't know what anyone is talking about.
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newalex.jpgicbeast - 3618 Posts
12/21/2005 @ 06:28:21 PM
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Gado is done too now. I think Edger Bennett should suit up for the last two games.
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sarah.jpgSarah - So's your face
12/21/2005 @ 08:41:29 PM
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Why my Samkon? I am sad. So sad. There is no emoticon for what I am feeling right now. (because Jeremy took them away.) Edgar would be a good choice, Dorsey is still available, maybe they should both go at it. OH Samkon, he was getting to be one of my favorites. WHat about the no Pro Bowler thing? Al Harris was having an exceptional year. As was Kampman. So was Favre.
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newalex.jpgicbeast - 3618 Posts
12/22/2005 @ 12:00:20 AM
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No, no, and no. I think Driver was probably most deserving, but even he didn't get snubbed.
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scott.jpgScott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings
12/22/2005 @ 08:07:05 AM
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On the bright side, the Packers have only 1 less pro bowler than the Vikings
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - No one's gay for Moleman
12/22/2005 @ 08:13:04 AM
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Driver was deserving if they elected a Pro Bowl receiver based on who was the best at hanging on to a catch during a big hit, otherwise not so much.

As for the video board thing: Tice was just talking about the fact that at most stadiums the replay operator is Johnny on the Spot with the replays when the home team might want to challenge something, and that they don't play replays when it might cause the away team to challenge.

At the dome they almost never show replays until it's like 5 minutes after the fact. If they ever do queue one up right away we're always like "Why are they showing that?" because it's usually one they shouldn't be replaying. It's just another part of home field advantage and despite Tice's comments to the replay booth people in the past nothing has changed.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/22/2005 @ 08:14:30 AM
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2 less. Koren Robinson and Darren Sharper. Actually Darren Sharper should count as -1 Packer. So 3 less.
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
12/22/2005 @ 11:12:05 AM
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i didn'tn see robinson, I think you're making that up.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Robots don't say 'ye'
12/22/2005 @ 12:34:38 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2267751
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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
12/22/2005 @ 12:45:59 PM
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you obviously made that up too. I'm on to you.

Hey, Josh Bidwell made the Pro Bowl. So that's 2 punters in the last 8 or 10 years that the Packers gave up on and then went on to become Pro Bowlers.

Chris Chambers made it as well.

Yeah, after Mike Wahle leaves the Packers he makes the Pro Bowl. He was pretty good as a Packer too. Matt Hasselback made it too.

So including Sharper, that's 4 former Packers that have made the Pro Bowl.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/22/2005 @ 12:50:15 PM
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One more former Packer than the current Packers have wins. Did I just blow your mind?
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newalex.jpgicbeast - 3618 Posts
12/22/2005 @ 12:53:33 PM
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I didn't say Driver was deserving, I said most deserving of any of the Packers. Hasselback doesn't really count.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8968 Posts
12/22/2005 @ 01:03:45 PM
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I know you didn't I just wanted to get my backhanded compliment in there.
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sarah.jpgSarah - How do you use these things?
12/22/2005 @ 05:08:16 PM
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Al Harris got named to the lunch pail group or something like that. It's a moose johnson thing. So.... baseball. No more JACQUE JONES. Give the guy a bobblehead and he leaves. Cripes. Jiminiy. No emoticon for what I am feeling. I hate the Twins.
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sarah.jpgSarah - So's your face
12/22/2005 @ 05:11:30 PM
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Tony Dungy's son died. That's so sad. I think I remember seeing him on the sidelines sometimes, he was only 18, they just found him in his apartment. The Colts are having a great season, probably the best of Dungy's career and something tragic has to happen to him. How awful. I wonder when he'll go back to coach, it's one thing to lose a parent, it's entirely different thing to lose a child. (both very very awful things, but i hope people understand what i'm saying)
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newalex.jpgicbeast - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret
12/22/2005 @ 05:46:00 PM
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Haven't heard this one before:
"1. Watching Brett Favre play the second half of the season, it's obvious Favre wants to play with Reggie Bush. What Favre doesn't realize is Bush wants no parts of playing in Green Bay. Rumor has it, one of the stipulations Bush has given potential agents is he wants an agent who can guarantee he won't play in Green Bay." - Jason Whitlock, http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/051222
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reign_of_fire.jpgMicah - 584 Posts
12/23/2005 @ 10:23:20 AM
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Losing Jones was too bad but he wasn't worth the salary that he got. The Twins haven't been doing too bad in the offseason for a small market team. Luis Castillo was a good pickup if he can start stealing bases again and Rondell White will have a harder time getting injuered at DH. If they can deal for a third baseman they'll be looking real good. Except I hear that they might not trade my least favorite player Kyle Lohse, who is always just an H away from Lose.
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