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Eagles 17 @ Giants 27
Sun, 11/20/05 12:00pm
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Panthers 3 @ Bears 13
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Raiders 16 @ Redskins 13
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Saints 17 @ Patriots 24
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Jaguars 31 @ Titans 28
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Colts 45 @ Bengals 37
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Buccaneers 30 @ Falcons 27
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Cardinals 38 @ Rams 28
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Dolphins 0 @ Browns 22
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Lions 7 @ Cowboys 20
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Seahawks 27 @ 49ers 25
Sun, 11/20/05 3:05pm
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Steelers 13 @ Ravens 16
Sun, 11/20/05 3:15pm
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Jets 0 @ Broncos 27
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Bills 10 @ Chargers 48
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Chiefs 45 @ Texans 17
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Vikings 20 @ Packers 17
Mon, 11/21/05 8:00pm
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Chiefs 45 @ Texans 17

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Jeremy
Hey we get to comment on the team Green Bay will be competing with for the #1 pick. Somewhere I can hear Dick Vermeil crying. That didn't make any sense.
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Trent Green sucks, but even so, the Chiefs should have no problem with Texans.

Interesting Fact: The Chiefs franchise was founded in 1960 as the Dallas Texans. They moved to K.C. in 1963 where they became the Chiefs.
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Jon
This game has a team with a winning record.
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So much for our #1 pick. Aw who needs it. GO PACK GO

Vikings 20 @ Packers 17

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Green Bay is 2-7 despite outscoring their opponents. Some might say this makes Green Bay the best 2-7 team ever. I, on the other hand, always prefer the "Packers Suck" side of the coin. There is a certain something to be said for never being able to come through at the end of the game.
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Both these teams suck.

Bonus Trivia Question:
Place these teams/people in order of how much they suck, starting with the person/team that sucks the least, and ending with that which sucks the most:

Doug Mientkiewicz
The Minnesota Vikings
The Green Bay Packers
Trent Green
Ron Gardenhire

Note: This is not a subjective exercise, there is one and only one correct answer derived from years of scientific study.

Winner gets a free, one year subscription to Page 3 Insider.
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Green Baaaay Packerena!!
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Payback. We shouldn't have blown a 17-0 lead, that's not coo. Welcome back to Lambeau Mr. Sharper, hope you enjoy your stay, just not too much. I enjoyed last week's game, and I fully intend to enjoy this week's as well.
newalex.jpgicbeast - 3618 Posts
11/18/2005 @ 06:48:04 PM
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There's a certain something to be said for never being able to come through at the end of the season too.

You guys should stop cheating off of each other. Eyes on your own papers!
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist
11/18/2005 @ 07:12:02 PM
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Which happened twice...not 7 times :)

Our picks are hidden from each other until it's go time....I'm not stupid ;)
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newalex.jpgicbeast - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so!
11/18/2005 @ 07:23:43 PM
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I believe that's debatable given the fact that you thought that I thought that ya'll were actually looking at each other's picks ahead of time.

I feel the need to put in my own picks this week:
Giants, Cardinals, Patriots, Oakland, Jacksonville, Tampa Bay, Carolina, Indianapolis, Miami, Dallas, Seattle, San Diego, Baltimore, Denver, Houston, Green Bay.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
11/18/2005 @ 07:38:32 PM
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Well what did you mean then?
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - 3354 Posts
11/18/2005 @ 07:48:43 PM
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Actually, I've heard that Clint Howard is one sneaky bastard. I wouldn't put it past him to cheat.

Of course none of it really matters since we all know that Jeremy has the thing rigged anyway.
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
11/18/2005 @ 09:04:06 PM
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I was cleverly pointing out the obvious fact that you all picked the same except for 4 games, with a grand total of 6 dissenting opinions.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Broadcast in stunning 1080i
11/19/2005 @ 01:12:41 AM
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This is pretty wild, let me know if you have problems with it.
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
11/19/2005 @ 12:26:29 PM
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I think this pretty much sums it up:


"According to Chatman and accounts from other players, Ferguson was injured while running a deep go route along the sideline.



Chatman said quarterback Brett Favre overthrew Ferguson, who was pulling up. But rookie safety Nick Collins didn't see the ball and bumped Ferguson, whose knee buckled."

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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
11/19/2005 @ 12:51:11 PM
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um ok what's with the word format?  i guess that's the wild jeremy was referring to.  that boy has too much time on his hands.  that's how ferguson reinjured himself?  dang.  besides hurting our offense in practice, i have been very impressed with our defense.  snaps to our defense. (because i just watched the incredibles and i don't like it when baby jack jack turns into the devil at the end)
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sarah.jpgSarah - How do you use these things?
11/19/2005 @ 02:16:48 PM
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from the nfl.com power rankings (is that enough of a source?)


"Despite all the injuries, they showed a lot of spunk going in and winning at Atlanta. That might be the type of victory that keeps Brent, er, Brett Favre around for a while."


No respect.

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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
11/20/2005 @ 12:22:47 PM
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how come i never pick the right starters for ff?


 

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jeremy.jpgJeremy - No one's gay for Moleman
11/20/2005 @ 09:54:42 PM
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Where is everyone? 
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/21/2005 @ 11:53:08 AM
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well no crap there's something to be said about being able to come through at the end of games.  But for a 2-7 team lose like 6 games by a point margin of less than 7 points, there is something to be said about never being out of it either.  I mean, aside from the 2-7 record (because I'm not going to argue that they haven't lost too many games), the Packers are not a typical 2-7 team.  Compared to the Vikings, the Packers have more offensive yards, a better passing and rushing defense, more points scored and fewer points given up.  Now the Vikings might still make the playoffs and be better off on the season as a whole, the point is that the Packers are probably better than their record indicates; not by much, but better nonetheless.
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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
11/21/2005 @ 11:54:49 AM
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and the Packers are a 6 point favorite in tonight's game.  That's right, 2-7 team favored over 4-5 team.
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jon.jpgJon - 1 bajillion posts
11/21/2005 @ 01:31:21 PM
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I'm gonna be bold and lay down some law here.  Everyone needs to stop talking about the relative qualities of wins and of losses.  Every week, it seems it's the same argument.  The Vikings lost to one team by 239 points and the packers lost by 200.  This team played that team's B team and the other one played their C team and Larry Johnson's mom played their D team.  And what does a typical 2 and 7 team look like anyway?  When the Vikings sucked big time a few years ago, they lost a ton of games by just one play.  I don't think there is a typical way to have any sort record.  The NFL consists of 5 good teams and 27 teams that suck and the Vikings and Packers are both in that category.


And just for the record, it's great that the Packers have more offensive yards, especially since the Viking's needed approximately zero offensive yards to beat the Giants.  So I guess none of it really means much if you look at it that way.

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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
11/21/2005 @ 01:45:58 PM
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well if you look at it my way it is much more favorable to supporting my opinion, which is what I will choose to do.  But when you really think about it, when the Vikings and Packers play, you can throw records out the door.  It's just interesting that the Packers are 2-7 and somehow are a favorite in any game.


And when both teams do suck, we do need to discuss the relative quality of wins and losses.  How else will we know which team is better?  If the Packers win by a field goal again, are they equal to the Vikings?  What if they win by 4 and thus outscore the vikings by 1 point on the season.  I think we need a BCS type scoring system to determine which team (packers or vikings) sucks least. 


Also, there will apparently be 7 teams that suck that make the playoffs, which isn't really anything unusual I guess.

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hoochpage.JPGSarah - So's your face
11/21/2005 @ 02:19:31 PM
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You know what's funny?  Cows rolling down hills. Yup.
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question_mark.gifAnon. Nut Can Fan (Guest)
11/21/2005 @ 02:23:21 PM
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 that's what I think of the vikings chances tonight.......that's what will happen if the Packers lose tonight.......maybe that too.    I just wanted to use the symbols
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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
11/21/2005 @ 02:23:50 PM
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that last comment was mine
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jon.jpgJon - 1 bajillion posts
11/21/2005 @ 03:01:50 PM
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Home teams with a worse record are often favored over other crappy teams.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/21/2005 @ 04:33:30 PM
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perhaps
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question_mark.gifAnon. Nut Can Fan (Guest)
11/21/2005 @ 05:22:14 PM
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You don't need a BCS type system to find out who sucks more/less.  If you read my game comment you'll see that it has already been scientifically determined.  All you guys need to do is figure out the correct order.

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matt.jpgMatt - 3354 Posts
11/21/2005 @ 05:23:08 PM
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That last comment was, of course, mine.


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scott.jpgScott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on?
11/21/2005 @ 07:12:27 PM
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1 being most sucky


1. Doug Mientkiewicz


2. Ron Gardenhire


3. Trent Green


4. Vikings


5. Packers

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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - 3354 Posts
11/21/2005 @ 07:32:01 PM
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No
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
11/21/2005 @ 09:32:57 PM
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Did they ever announce the Viking players?  I think I missed it as did the rest of the Page 3 writers.  Did Sharper do anything jackass-like? 
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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
11/21/2005 @ 11:15:13 PM
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Ok, the Packers are literally one play away in every game from being 8-2 instead of 2-8.  I would rather the Packers lose by 30 than lose by 3.  This is like the 5th game this year that the Packers have lost by 4 points or less.  Gah.......my nerves are fried.  Stupid freeking vikings.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - I hate our freedoms
11/21/2005 @ 11:26:39 PM
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Of course last year you won almost every game in a simmilar fashion. So you could say the same thing in reverse. It just shows how easily you could have been 6-10 or worse last year. I'm just saying is all. Stupid freaking Vikings indeed, they could have put it away like 5 times but they have to make sure to test everyone's hearts/intestinal tract.


Also you say you would rather have the Packers lose by 30 than 3 but that isn't true. The nerve wrenching close fgames aren't fun while watching them maybe, but the mental effects of a big thrashing are very noticeable.

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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
11/21/2005 @ 11:29:58 PM
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PS. As for the rest of the year. Bah dum...da dum dum dum GO PACK GO.
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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
11/21/2005 @ 11:32:17 PM
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and when I say "not your typical 2-7, now 2-8 team", it's because when you see the standings and see "oh, this team is 2-8", you probably think that they should be pathetic.  Like the texans, who have lost 7 games by 14 points or more.  You expect that a 2-8 team is not a very competitive team.  But there is no way the Packers look pathetic.  This isn't my way of trying to say that they are better than they are, but is anyone else even slightly shocked that the Packers are 2-8?  It's just a weird season.  Maybe it's league parody for being such a dominant force for the past 13 seasons, that's all I can think of.
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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
11/21/2005 @ 11:34:39 PM
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about the 30 point blowouts:  true while the game is going on, but it always takes longer to get over than a blowout.  That's was mainly sarcasm though.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/21/2005 @ 11:37:21 PM
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One thing I will say is that I am very impressed that inspite of their record, the Packers do come to play every week.  Them not being blown out I think says a lot of the character of the team, and in that sense I am very proud to still root for them.  It would be hard to cheer for a team if I felt they didn't really care.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/21/2005 @ 11:38:21 PM
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and being a Brewer fan my whole life I've learned how to cope with losing while still cheering for my team.
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2887.gificbeast - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated
11/21/2005 @ 11:45:43 PM
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I almost wooped up, 12-4.  But I was the only one to pick Arizona, Oakland, and Tampa Bay, while 3 of the 4 games I got wrong were also picked wrong by at least one other person.  So I think I still win based on strength of schedule.


Comments on the football game: Go Bucks!  Wait, what's that?  They just got rocked by 20 points again?  Ok, well go Badgers men's BBall team, 2-0 baby!


And just for the record, I finished 2,493 overall in Yahoo fantasy NASCAR.


Two comments on the close loses thing.  One, the reason the Packers keep losing the close games is because their defense can't make a stop when they need to and with Favre only having one WR to throw too, they can't put together drives at the end of games.  Secondly, the Packers and pretty much every other team in the league are too conservative on offense.  There are way more close games then there should be.  If you have something going on offense, run up the score.  Don't start killing the clock in the second quarter.


Stop adding comments so I can finish this dumb thing and go to bed.  Jeremy, if you think rooting for the Packers is going to do any good, you should be forewarned that I've already been rooting for the Bears and now that Packers have absolutely positively no shot at the playoffs I am fully prepared to root against them if need be.


No I'm not shocked that the Packers are 2-8.  That's why I named my team Go Bucks.  As Jeremy mentioned they won a bunch of close games last year, they lost half of the o-line, the defense stunk and they didn't bring in anyone to help there (except Bates, who I think is actually doing a decent job given the players they have), Walker held out then got hurt in the first game, Green is reaching the age of break down for all but a rare few RBs, Sherman is still the coach, etc. etc.

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2887.gificbeast - Who controls the past now controls the future
11/21/2005 @ 11:49:02 PM
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I despise white space (in this case tan).
Make it stop.
Nevermind, I rembered how to do it. 


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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
11/22/2005 @ 12:06:21 AM
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My bad, the Badgers are actually 3-0 and won the Paradise Jam tournament tonight.  Butch had a big game the first game, Tucker had a monster game the second game, and Taylor lead the way tonight.  Looks like most of the offense will come from those 3 and Marcus Landry.  They have a chance to be pretty good this year I think, but I don't expect quite as good of results as last year since they are a pretty young team.
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reign_of_fire.jpgMicah - 584 Posts
11/22/2005 @ 10:31:47 AM
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Regarding whether you prefer 3 or 30 point losses, I am a Detroit Lions fan, have had to deal with sucking for far longer than you have, and should have the final say in which is better.   I can say with assurance that I would rather they lose by 3 than 30.  And dont any of you dare argue with me because no one is a fan of a worse team.  Even the Brewer's were almost .500 this year.

If anyone wants to get into a "worst team in football the last 5 years" argument, bring it on.  I will not argue Priest Holmes
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newalex.jpgicbeast - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated
11/22/2005 @ 01:45:15 PM
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I feel this article is somewhat relevant to the current discussion.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=hruby/051122

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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
11/22/2005 @ 04:41:28 PM
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How does that apply at all?
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/22/2005 @ 05:36:37 PM
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the Lions are definitely bad, but the Brewers haven't even been to the playoffs since 1982.  The Lions were in the playoffs as little as 12 years ago or so:)
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sarah.jpgSarah - How do you use these things?
11/23/2005 @ 07:55:41 AM
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Remember when Thigpen dropped the ball so we won the division instead of the Lions?  Then we were in the playoffs against the Lions and I think we beat them?  Those were good times.  We have had a lot of good times...  (past good times, not so much in the present)


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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/23/2005 @ 08:53:24 AM
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we didn't play the lions the year Thigpen dropped the ball.  We played the Falcons at home, the 49ers on the road, and lost to the Cowboys on the road.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/23/2005 @ 11:04:23 AM
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Hey page 3 writers,  there are 2 games tomorrow.  Just in case you forgot
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - As Seen On The Internet
11/23/2005 @ 11:32:23 AM
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Crap, thanks. I did forget.
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
11/23/2005 @ 01:25:41 PM
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Balls, I forgot also.  Need to make sure my teams are all setup.

Can we please vote down the ridiculous trade of a qb, wr, and rb for a probably done for the season qb and a wr?
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scott.jpgScott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone!
11/23/2005 @ 03:04:23 PM
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I say, we let a doctor decide who is and isn't done for the season.
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matt.jpgMatt - 3354 Posts
11/23/2005 @ 04:10:48 PM
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I say vote it down....please.
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