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Eagles 21 @ Patriots 24

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Gotta play the odds and go with the champs. A lot of times when I can't decide who to root for I will say to myself "who's group of fans do I feel the worst for." Well Philly fans can suck it and the Boston metro area doesn't need to see another championship for 10 years. So when in doubt side will Bill Simmons. It's hard to believe that it's all over, another long offseason is upon us, some of us have a longer offseason than others, but I digress. If Red sells the team to this Fowler guy the Vikings will have the first black NFL owner, and I hope it happens because you can't win the Super Bowl sitting on 20 million of the 70 million dollar cap. Which is one of the reasons why the "trade Randy for some defense" talk bugs me. They can sign all the defensive players they want, they don't need to give away someone who impacts the game just being in the starting lineup.
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Is it baseball season yet?
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Jon
Immediately following the conference championship games, I was thinking New England hands down. As time has gone by, I've felt the Eagles have a decent chance in this game. For one, the Eagles are a good team. I've said it before, you don't just get to the Super Bowl/Finals/World Series by accident. I don't know if any team should ever be considered a Huge underdog in the Championship game/series. Especially when it's only one game. The Eagles won virtually every game when they actually played to win. The Steelers game was really the only game that they just flat out lost. Plus, do you remember the last two times the Patriots won the Super Bowl? Of course you remember it happening, but do you remember how they won? By a field goal each time. I didn't pick the Eagles though. The Patriots defense is good.
On a side note, the great egalitarian sport of football has produced a Super Bowl featuring the best two teams of the last four years. Not only that, but if the Patriots win, that will be the third championship in four years. The last four World Series have produced four different winners. Actually the last five have produced five different winners. Read those last two sentences again. Before you all jump down my throat about how this doesn't mean anything, let me state that I know it doesn't prove much and there are a bunch of factors and blah, blah, blah...It's just interesting, isn't it? I mean, talk all you want about the beauty of last year's panthers (runners up) or the rams from 99, but did anyone pick the Angels in 2002? Or the Marlins of the next year?
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New England just seems to be able to get things done, no matter how injured they are. They are more of a team, and it's not just about one person. (TO) I will be rooting for the Patriots and everyone else should too. Yea, they've won it a few times, but they seem gracious and don't take it for granted. Gotta give them props for that. Although I will feel sorry if Dorsey Levens and Jeff Thomason don't win, but I can't have them win without the Patriots losing.
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02/02/2005 @ 07:51:22 PM
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So will this be the year Favre retires? Driver says yes, Favre's brother says no. I hope not. Let the debate begin. :)
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
02/03/2005 @ 09:34:57 AM
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I'm gonna pick the eagles, or at least that's who i'm gonna cheer for. Why? Dorsey Levens, Jeff Thomason, and Andy Reid, all former Packers. Would you guys consider the Bills of the early 90's a Dynasty? 4 SB's in 4 years (no wins, but still, no one has done that). Also, who is the best running back of all time: Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith, or Walter Peyton? If Favre retires, they should put him in the hall right away, you know, give him a special exemption:)
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
02/03/2005 @ 12:36:54 PM
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The Patriots don't seem very gracious in the Visa commercial that I'm sure we've all seen a hundred times. They're as cocky as any other team, only their cockiness is not about themselves individually, but as a team. TO and the media make it seem like the Eagles are all bout him, but they've gone to four straight NFC championship games and they made it to the Super Bowl this year without TO in the playoffs. The rest of the Eagles players besides TO just keep their mouths shut and don't brag about how much a team they are like the Patriots.

So I'll be cheering for the Eagles obviously, although they are one of my least favorite NFC teams. NFC needs to win some Super Bowls anyway.

It depends on your definition of dynasty. If that just means being a really good team then yes, the Bills were a dynasty. Problem is they ran into an even better dynasty, the Cowboys. Now I'm sure some people would argue that dynasties by definition cannot co-exist, so like I said it depends are your definition. I say yes.

Sanders was the best of all time skill wise, Smith was the best of all time for longevity. Definitions again. I'll break it down this way. One game for the Super Bowl, pick a RB. I'd take Sanders.

The offseason wouldn't be so long if you got into basketball, plus baseball starts soon.
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02/03/2005 @ 12:40:05 PM
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Forgot a few things. I'm done talking about Favre until he makes a decision.

Trading Moss is the worst idea I've ever heard. Straight drunken-type foolishness. Football teams are built from free agency and the draft not trades. Need some defense? Grab a bunch of cheap free agents, a couple of them have to be worth something. It works for the Patriots.
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02/03/2005 @ 06:24:46 PM
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Agreed. Especially since the Vikes will have tons of cap room, and possibly no Red, so that means it might actually get spent.
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02/03/2005 @ 06:41:19 PM
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A guy applied the BCS algorithm to find the best 50 wide receivers of all time.

1. Jerry Rice
2. Henry Ellard
3. Steve Largent
4. Tim Brown
5. James Lofton
6. Andre Reed
7. Paul Warfield
8. Anthony Miller
9. Joey Galloway
10. Harold Jackson
11. Art Monk
12. Cris Carter
13. Anthony Carter
14. Stanley Morgan
15. Irving Fryar
16. Rob Moore
17. Fred Biletnikoff
18. John Stallworth
19. Michael Irvin
20. Charley Taylor
21. Haven Moses
22. Wesley Walker
23. Eric Martin
24. Harold Carmichael
25. Lynn Swann
26. Mel Gray
27. Gary Clark
28. Mark Duper
29. Jimmy Smith
30. Al Toon
31. Brian Blades
32. Alfred Jenkins
33. Andre Rison
34. Sterling Sharpe
35. Reggie Rucker
36. Charlie Joiner
37. Ken Burrough
38. Terry Glenn
39. Randy Moss
40. Otis Taylor
41. Webster Slaughter
42. Gene Washington
43. Carroll Dale
44. Isaac Bruce
45. John Gilliam
46. Marvin Harrison
47. Drew Hill
48. Lance Alworth
49. Gary Garrison
50. Michael Westbrook
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2887.gificbeast - Who controls the past now controls the future
02/03/2005 @ 06:52:05 PM
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Um..I'm not quite sure how you apply the BCS algorithm to WRs, but obviously something is wrong here. Joey Galloway at 9? Michael Westbrook even listed anywhere near the words "best wide receiver"? It's really too foolish to even bother commenting on, but since I've already typed this I guess I'll hit "Comment".
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02/03/2005 @ 06:53:40 PM
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The process explained. Here
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02/03/2005 @ 07:01:28 PM
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He is also perplexed by the Joey Galloway thing. It's a pretty interesting site though.
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newalex.jpgicbeast - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret
02/03/2005 @ 10:53:34 PM
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Has anyone else been reading SuperBlogII? Some quality stuff there, sounds like a real disaster.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
02/04/2005 @ 04:42:12 PM
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this could be least Super of all the Bowls. The lack of discussion is part of it.
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02/05/2005 @ 03:54:41 PM
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Has anyone else realized that the Super Bowl is being held in a city not much bigger than Eau Claire. Jacksonville is only like 66,000 some people. Interesting, isn't it.
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02/05/2005 @ 10:54:43 PM
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I did not know that, if that is true than Green Bay is not the smallest town with a team after all.
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02/06/2005 @ 01:52:50 AM
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Green Bay is still the smallest market though, I think that's relating to TV audience or something like that.

The Monkey is officially and forever off the back of Steve Young. Dan Marino and Steve Young are hall of famers.
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02/06/2005 @ 09:43:25 AM
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There was a monkey? What monkey?
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
02/06/2005 @ 09:58:13 AM
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When Steve Young and the 49ers won Super Bowl 29 against the chargers when Steve Young threw 6 touchdown passes, the "monkey" of living in Joe Montana's shadow was lifted off his back. Many also felt that no matter how good Steve Young would be, he would never be good enough to compare to Montana. Well now, he is definitely "good enough".
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2887.gificbeast - I don't need to get steady I know just how I feel
02/06/2005 @ 12:03:08 PM
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He's not good enough to compare to Montana.
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newalex.jpgicbeast - 3618 Posts
02/06/2005 @ 05:35:29 PM
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That was the highlight of the evening. Javon Walker getting national respect by being on a cheesy American Idol commercial. Anything else good to follow is just icing on the cake.
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02/06/2005 @ 07:33:41 PM
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Worst halftime show ever.
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02/06/2005 @ 07:58:00 PM
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Last year was bad, but it's over Paul.

Get on AIM Alex.
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02/06/2005 @ 08:46:47 PM
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DF McNabb is sure crapping the bed here.
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02/06/2005 @ 09:16:08 PM
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Philly is sure doing their damnedest to take the NFL Worst clock management title from the Vikings.


And Scene
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02/06/2005 @ 10:00:41 PM
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was TO selfish in playing slightly hurt, or was he a warrior? I think he was a warrior, and he played a great game.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8986 Posts
02/06/2005 @ 10:12:17 PM
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I dont think anyone can think for one millisecond that his wanting to play was a bad thing. There is a caste system of players and TO is in the damned if they do damned if they dont caste.

There would have been just as much bad press if he made no attempt to come back.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
02/06/2005 @ 11:13:07 PM
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I was glad to see him play. As much as I don't really like him as a player overall, I think it was best for the game that one of the best players in the league played, even if through some pain and not at 100%. If anyone else would have done it, they would be called heroic, so I think he is the same then. Alright, we agree.
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02/06/2005 @ 11:14:03 PM
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is this it, or is there a Pro Bowl page? Sadness.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
02/06/2005 @ 11:22:01 PM
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Ok, my mistake. Without realizing it, I was looking at Jacksonville North Carolina. Jacksonville Florida is actually like 800,000.
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newalex.jpgicbeast - 3618 Posts
02/07/2005 @ 09:33:28 PM
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I slept through the entire 4th quarter. And I'm glad. Worst commercials ever. The Super Bowl was Super Lame.

Quote of the day, "And we are all victims of a once-likable league (NHL) that screwed itself up beyond repair, the same way you screw up a relationship by drunk-dialing too many times." Bill Simmons is hilarious. Too bad he's a Patriot fan or I'd vote for him in 2008.
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02/07/2005 @ 11:26:41 PM
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I thought the game was above average and the commercials were at least average if not better. Tie game going into the fourth quarter with the Championship on the line. What's not good about that. That's infinitely better than the majority of Super Bowls.
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02/07/2005 @ 11:54:59 PM
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The kinkos "Best Super Bowl commercial ever" was excellent. I dont remember many else and as a whole i'd say it was a sub par year. As for the game as Jon points out it was close for so long and SHOULD have been good, but it wasn't for some reason, and I'm not sure why that is.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
02/08/2005 @ 12:09:35 AM
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to me, it seemed that there weren't any big plays (except that last touchdown for the eagles), lots of mistakes, turnovers, too many overthrown passes or passes that hit players in the back, and too many punts. For a 3 point game, I never really felt excited about it.
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02/13/2005 @ 03:37:07 PM
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is anyone watching the Pro Bowl skills competition?
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02/15/2005 @ 01:37:51 PM
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Most anticlimactic ending ever. We'll have to come up with some other regularly occuring event to keep Page 3 from going completely stagnant for 7 months. Maybe Sarah can get us another potential lawsuit.
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2887.gificbeast - I don't need to get steady I know just how I feel
02/15/2005 @ 01:41:51 PM
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We should just post our favorite Bill Simmon's quotes every day, like this, "My top three random NBA wishes for 2005... 2.) Tayshaun Prince's sister marries Ron Artest to become the Artest formerly known as Prince;". I wish I had his job.
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02/15/2005 @ 02:45:58 PM
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do something for march madness, or have a 24 hour webcam of something like your computer.
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02/17/2005 @ 01:16:03 PM
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Stolen from Buster Olney of ESPN The Magazine at http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=olney_buster&id=1992665

What must go right: The Brewers swapped closer Dan Kolb and center fielder Scott Podsednik when their value was high, and in return, they got outfielder Carlos Lee and hard-throwing Jose Capellan. That means Milwaukee has to find a new closer and fill other holes around ace pitcher Ben Sheets and a decent young lineup. Nobody expects them to win 105 games like the Cardinals did last year, but they might get a whiff of the front-runners in the NL Central this summer. And, believe it or not, for the first time in years, the Brewers might be on the verge of having a window of opportunity to contend.


What could go wrong: Sheets's status -- will he sign a long-term deal, or won't he? -- will be a priority for the organization in the months to come; an inability to lock him up would be devastating for the Brewers. It stands to reason that the better the Brewers play this year, the more likely it is that Sheets will feel comfortable remaining in Milwaukee, rather than waiting until after the 2007 season to sign long-term with someone like the Yankees or Red Sox.


The X-Factor: The Brewers have a wave of talented infielders on the verge of reaching the majors together -- first baseman Prince Fielder, second baseman Rickie Weeks and shortstop J.J. Hardy. While Hardy might open the season with Milwaukee, it's possible that Fielder and Weeks will arrive sometime later in the summer, depending on how they fare in the minors and depending on the needs of the team.


Numerically speaking: It's a mind-boggling set of numbers that flew under the radar last year, along with the rest of the Brewers -- Sheets struck out 264 batters and walked only 32 in 237 innings.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8986 Posts
02/17/2005 @ 09:47:37 PM
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Citing "Nothing Left to Play For," Manning Retires

Just days after winning the MVP of the Pro Bowl, Peyton Manning has shocked the NFL football community by retiring at the age of 28.

Ive accomplished all there is to accomplish, said Manning shortly after throwing for three touchdowns and 130 yards to lead the AFC past the NFC in the NFLs annual All-Star game. I mean, seriously. Im the MVP of all the MVPs in the entire league. Whats better than that?

Critics of Mannings decision to call it quits point to the fact that his team, the Indianapolis Colts, has never won jack @#%$, but Manning apparently was focused solely on his individual accomplishments.

After calling the 2005 Pro Bowl the biggest game of his life, Manning said, Playoffs? Playoffs? I dont
give a damn about the playoffs. You try throwing for 49 touchdowns in a single season, then capping it off by throwing three in the game of all games. It aint easy, Ill tell you that. This was the highlight of my career. It would be the highlight of anyones career. Whats better than playing in front of a half-full stadium of Hawaiians who would rather be surfing?"


Manning also pointed out that he is now the Pro Bowls all time leading passer, with eight touchdowns. And thats going against the best of the best, said Manning. "Let's see that prick Tom Brady do that."

Manning also claimed the original name of the Pro Bowl was to be the Super Terrific Bowl, which he claimed obviously makes winning the MVP of that game 10 times better than winning just the regular old Super Bowl.

With his three-touchdown performance on the NFLs ultimate stage, Manning also tied Joe Thiesmann and Phil Simms for the most passing scores in one Pro Bowl.


If I did come back, it would be to break that
record, said Manning. But winning the Pro Bowl
MVP was the one last thing I needed to accomplish
before retiring. The whole world watched me prove
that I was the best. Plus, I want to be able to walk
around without arthritis when Im 50 years old, so
now is the time to get out while Im still healthy.
Honestly, theres nothing left to play for. Im the
cream of the crop.


Despite the criticism that Manning has yet to prove anything because of his failure to win the Super Bowl, Manning did find several supporters.

Brady, winner of three Super Bowls in four years and two Super Bowl MVP trophies, expressed his congratulations towards Manning. You know, I always wanted that Pro Bowl MVP award. What is it, like a palm tree or something? That sure would look nice in my basement. Maybe Id even keep it on the mantel with my Super Bowl trophies, at least for awhile. Some day. Some day.


Manning retired because he ran out of space for meaningless trophies


It doesnt get any bigger than the Pro Bowl, said former Pro Bowl legend Rich Gannon. Theres a reason they dont call it the Amateur Bowl. I owe my entire career to the fact that I own the second highest career completion percentage of anyone in Pro Bowl history.

Dan Fouts, widely considered the greatest quarterback of all time for his career Pro Bowl records in most passing attempts, completions, and yards, said Peyton is making the right decision. Hey, not everyone makes the Pro Bowl. Its a rare accomplishment to do so well, so consistently, against the games elite. Peyton has to be considered one of the best ever. Super Bowl Shmuper Bowl.

Oh yeah, Dan Fouts. He was pretty good, wasnt he? asked Patriots fan Roger Simmons. Did he play for the Lions?

Jeff Blake and Yancey Thigpen, who connected on arguably the greatest Pro Bowl play of all time a 93-yard pass and catch in 1996 that still stands as the longest touchdown in Pro Bowl history, are glad to welcome Manning to the pantheon of legendary Pro Bowlers.

Jeff and I, we just had that special connection, said Thigpen. I think thats the same sort of connection Peyton forged with, well, with whichever receivers played in the games he played in. Thats the stuff legends are made of.

No Steelers or Bengals fans contacted for this story had any recollection of the Blake-to-Thigpen connection, nor did they give a rats ass about Peyton Manning or the Pro Bowl.
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02/18/2005 @ 12:14:27 AM
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Ok, that was weird.

Fantasy baseball anyone? I'm interested if anyone else is.
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02/19/2005 @ 07:55:11 PM
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Best Trades...

2. Brewers get a legit middle-of-the-order thumper (Carlos Lee) from the White Sox for a package headed by not-so-up-and-coming Scott Podsednik who, oh by the way, is actually three months older than Lee.

From Jayson Stark.
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02/20/2005 @ 02:17:29 PM
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BALEETED!
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02/23/2005 @ 06:48:53 PM
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I guess the Vikings want to reign supreme with the #1 and #2 worst trades ever.
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02/23/2005 @ 11:22:03 PM
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Moss is gone. But the vikings did get the # 7 overall pick. At least now I won't have to worry about him every week.
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03/06/2005 @ 01:55:40 PM
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AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I hope to God no one else saw that besides Sarah and I. Let's just say I learned a valuable lesson in why you shouldn't hot link images. (The Badger, Badger, Badger, Badger images).

If you need be I'll be off committing suicide and/or beginning to like men.
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