NFL 2004 Season Week 17 Picks

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Dolphins 23 @ Ravens 30
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Saints 21 @ Panthers 18
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Vikings 18 @ Redskins 21
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Packers 31 @ Bears 14
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Lions 19 @ Titans 24
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49ers 7 @ Patriots 21
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Bengals 38 @ Eagles 10
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Jets 29 @ Rams 32
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Steelers 29 @ Bills 24
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Browns 22 @ Texans 14
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Buccaneers 7 @ Cardinals 12
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Falcons 26 @ Seahawks 28
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Jaguars 13 @ Raiders 6
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Colts 14 @ Broncos 33
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Chiefs 17 @ Chargers 24
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Cowboys 24 @ Giants 28
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Week Record

9 - 7
0.562

8 - 8
0.500

10 - 6
0.625
First Place

Season Record

158 - 98
0.617

142 - 114
0.555

159 - 97
0.621

160 - 96
0.625

Lifetime Record

491 - 298 - 1
0.622

434 - 355 - 1
0.549

475 - 314 - 1
0.601

482 - 307 - 1
0.610

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Vikings 18 @ Redskins 21

Jeremy: It would take a miracle for the Vikes to not make the playoffs. I've heard that a lot latley, so I will apparently be the only one not surprised when they don't get in. I don't doubt it would happen on something that would make last years screw job look tame in comparison. Although last minute Washington TD's don't count anymore, so we have that going for us.

Matt: Senators/Nationals/Senators/Twins 23 - Expos/Nationals 21

Jon: Not two years in a row right?

Sarah: 3 of MN's best players went out with the flu Wed. Playoffs are at stake, so.... MN might possibly choke

Packers 31 @ Bears 14

Jeremy: 4 games won by 3 points + 2 last minute ref handouts - 1 (double counted) = 5 of 9/10 wins that could have easily gone the other way = one and done. (Or if you're lucky another narrow home escape to be bumped in round two)

Matt: Football Sucks

Jon: What are the odds that Brett Favre will break his leg in this game?

Sarah: Revenge! And the 2 guys that did that play against r on IR.

Cowboys 24 @ Giants 28

Jeremy: Who was the marketing wizzard behind this key matchup being the end note? Granted you never know what's going to happen, but play the odds people.

Matt: Happy New Year

Jon: Tuna can't lose this one can he? Julius Jones rushes for 200.

Sarah: Good luck with all that Eli. On a funny note, Warner still doesn't believe that he's just a back up.

	icbeast - 2098 Posts 12/30/2004 @ 12:25:19 PM
There are a few teams that Warner could start on. He may not be a a very good starter anymore, but he'd be an upgrade for teams like Chicago, Dallas, Cleveland, Miami, and maybe a few more.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 5111 Posts 12/30/2004 @ 11:19:57 PM
It's hard to believe the season is over.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - 1000000 posts (and counting!) 12/31/2004 @ 01:16:22 AM
Kurt Warner is starting caliber. Remember their record before Eli started? Granted, Eli's a rookie, but when Favre retires after this year, you're gonna wish you had Warner there to take over.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 1866 Posts 12/31/2004 @ 11:25:22 AM
um......no		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 5111 Posts 01/01/2005 @ 12:22:28 PM
Craig Nall or Warner? yea, that IS a toughy.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - 1361 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 02:00:09 AM
The other thing about Warner...people write him off as if he hasn' thrown a completion in eight years. The way I remember it, he won two MVP awards, got injured, had a string of about 5 bad games, had more injury problems, then went to the Giants where he started about half the season and had a winning record. He still managed to throw for over 2000 yards and had an 86.5 quarterback rating. Brett Favre has a passing rating of what? 90.4. People just watch warners numbers not always equaling the 450 yards he used to throw for and figured he's completely washed up. The guy played with a broken finger for like half the year one year. The media jumped on the "Warner's done" bandwagon way too early and too many people followed. Done or not, at least let him prove it on the field. Favre, Culpepper, etc. have all had bad streaks, even lasting up to a season. Let's be fair.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Cory - 44 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 02:59:02 AM
The Bears don't need a QB. They have Rex Grossman. Unless of course you mean for Warner to go to Chicago to play the last game of the season, a game which is totally meaningless.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Cory - 44 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 03:01:09 AM
Also the Bengals have Carson Palmer and the Cowboys have Drew Henson. Granted Henson doesn't look too good, he has hardly gotten a chance. They all have young QB's who just need some time to learn and mature. Miami however would be a good place for Warner to go.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 1866 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 10:19:32 AM
Yea, i too was wondering about the chicago comment. grossman did well and is their future, despite his injury. Warner has done some good, but then he reverts to holding the ball too long and getting sacked and fumbling and who knowns what else. He's old too, so I don't think he would make a good back up to Favre even if I did want him on the Packers after Favre retired.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 5111 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 11:31:18 AM
Warner holding the ball too long wouldn't be an issue in GB. The Giants have no offensive line.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 1866 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 12:49:23 PM
William Henderson is my hero		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 1866 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 01:05:55 PM
Like I've always said, I don't have a problem with Nall. I've liked what I've seen and I'm liking what I see now.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah 01/02/2005 @ 01:11:34 PM
Not sure if the Ravens are even in the playoff race but sucks to be them. Ray Lewis broke his wrist. I like talking to myself on this blog.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret 01/02/2005 @ 03:05:31 PM
No one ever suggested Warner should go to Cincinnati. Grossman has only started 6 games in his career, so he is hardly a sure thing as far as the future goes, ecspecially considering he is coming back from a serious injury. The Steelers winning this game right now the way they are proves that my mom could be the QB of that team and still win 15 games. Henson has started what one game, and he pretty much stunk, so if you're suggesting placing all your faith in him to be the starter next year you would last about 2 seconds as a GM (although I don't think the Bears GM got fired for similar silliness). Nall probably deserves a chance to start someday, but the fact is that despite constant rumors and such, Favre might end up playing 5 more years. I'm not counting on it and neither should the Packers, but you just don't know. If for some reason he did retire (which I only see happening if they win the SuperBowl), bringing in Warner seems like a good idea to me, unless they can get Brees. The Ravens are still alive I believe, but will not go far anyway because of their offense. The Eagles not actually playing a real game for a month is going to hurt them I think.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Bretx0r uses Firefox (Guest) 01/02/2005 @ 03:26:28 PM
I see Jeremy is still on the refs gave Green Bay the season bandwagon. Does anything ever change?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 1866 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 03:29:14 PM
Well, the NFC's "hottest team" couldn't get it done. Saints possibly coming to Lambeau? I guess it all depends on the St Louis Jets game.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 1866 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 03:48:12 PM
Sorgi is 8/8		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 1866 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 03:57:43 PM
Let me get this straight, regardless of the results of the Seattle game, Minnesota is the 6th seed? And we host the 6th seed? Is that a good thing?????		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 2883 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 07:11:43 PM
We play the Vikings next week. But Minnesota shouldn't even show up because the refs have decided the outcome of this game already, right? Favre has thrown 30 td passes for the 8th season. The next closest is Marino with 4 seasons of 30 or more. Still dominant? Maybe. Is Favre retiring after this year? I'm also pretty sure that the refs called every game in favor of the Packers. In fact, the Packers have never gotten a bad call in their favor, and I think they actually commit a penalty on every single play, but the refs only call the ones they like. They are football's version of bonnie and clyde or something. They would be 0-16 if it wasn't for the refs. The "ref handout" comment made my day by the way. It just never gets old. I have more conifident right now with the Packers playing in a dome than I do with them playing outside, including Lambeau. Backed in? Yes'um Nall has looked pretty good this year when he's played. Raymond James Stadium is a pretty cool stadium. The Priate ship doesn't look quite as big in person though. (i was at the Outback Bowl). Reggie White isn't the first Packer that has had the Flag lowered for him. In spite of the fact that I don't think football players merrit a half-massed flag, I believe that he was honored for what he did off the field. This might not be the best example, but I don't necessarily think that the flag should be reserved only for military purposes. I'm out.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Robots don't say 'ye' 01/02/2005 @ 07:51:15 PM
Not 0-16, just 8-8. How can you even argue the "ref handout" comment? Every NFL pundit said the Redskins td being taken off the board was at best a ticky tack call and mostly complete BS. Then they followed that up by giving the Packers a fumble recovery that was clearly recovered by the Vikings. Maybe I could stop complaining if something like that EVER went the Vikings way.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 2883 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 08:28:23 PM
In the redskins game.....ticky-tack calls happen every game, and until I see sources, the "mostly BS" comment is not credible. Even if it was ticky tack, which it probably was, it doesn't change the rule. It was a prior to the snap penalty, not a judgement like pass int or holding or something like that. The infraction happened before the play even started and the player was glancing forward before the snap. Ticky tack or not, that is the rule, not a judgement. If the play was anything but a touchdown no one would be complaining about anything, but just because the redskins receiver happened to be moving forward on a play that resulted in a touchdown does not make it a ref handout, it makes it the right call. Seriously, that is one of the most rediculous arguments I could imagine. Next week is going to be intense.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Corduroy pillows are making headlines 01/02/2005 @ 08:55:33 PM
They talked about the play on all the NFL shows, and the consensous was that the Redskins got robbed.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 2883 Posts 01/02/2005 @ 08:56:35 PM
In Ben Steele's own words he said he picked up a loose ball, he said he didn't need to wrestle it away from anyone, and that he was on top of the ball the entire time. Ross said that he had it pried away from him. Who's telling the truth. I have the game on tape but it's at my house which is not in Eau Claire. Does anyone know where to find a video of the game to watch the replay? Cuz I can't find anything.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - From now on, that's how you drive 01/02/2005 @ 10:52:37 PM
Happy New Year by the way!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah 01/03/2005 @ 05:37:50 AM
I just want to congratulate myself on winning the season. It was a tough fight, I was the underdog, but somehow I managed to beat the 2 time defending champion by pulling off a great final week. I just want to thank my fans, the naysayers, and Brett Favre, for without these people, it just would not have been possible. Bring on the playoffs!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Pie Racist 01/03/2005 @ 06:47:12 AM
Derek Ross was on top of the ball with no one else even near him.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Brett Favre Brett Favre Brett Favre Brett Favre Brett Favre Brett Favre Bre 01/03/2005 @ 12:58:13 PM
10-6, 150-106 for the season		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 2098 Posts 01/03/2005 @ 01:32:47 PM
The Angels want to change their name to "Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim". That's funny. I'd refer to them as the "L-triple-A's".		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 2883 Posts 01/03/2005 @ 09:31:57 PM
from week one....... ======"The Vikes receiving corps are better without Moss than the Packers, I mean really does the Driver-Ferguson 1-2 punch scare anyone?"====== The Driver-Walker 1-2 punch scares people. And the Packers receiving corps was indeed better than the Vikings receiving corps without Moss. Campbell, Burleson, and Robinson totaled 2027 yards on 135 receptions. The Walker-Driver combination totaled 2590 on their own on 173 receptions. and that's without Ferguson, who was part of the week one "comparison of receivers". Yes I know Moss missed some games because of injuries, which might be why the top 4 Viking receivers don't quite have the numbers that the top 3 Packer receivers have. Ya know what else is weird. I think the first game Javon Walker started all season was the week 16 game against the Vikings.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 2883 Posts 01/03/2005 @ 09:51:20 PM
In fact, it looks every WR comparison made by jeremy in the week one comments was wrong. Donald Driver almost doubled Marcus Robinson in catches and yards, and Driver had more tds, so..... Driver >> M Rob Javon Walker was approximately 4 games worth of catches and yards better than Burleson, with more yards, so...... Walker >> Burleson Campbell and Ferguson were pretty much tied in every category, but Ferguson did have the edge in catches, so.... Ferguson = Campbell and the "Moss > (Driver + Walker + Ferguson)" wouldn't make any sense even if moss was healthy all season. Moss is awesome, and did score a td in all but one game in which he played, but Driver and Walker did good. So in summary, i'm really bored and have nothing better to do than look back on page3 archives and bring up old topics. I have a speech to prepare.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 01/03/2005 @ 10:03:06 PM
One better season doesn't make them better. Not to mention it's not something that should even warrant comparison. Your number one guy beat our number 2 and your number 2 guy beat a guy that barely played. (I'm officially ending the Javon is our 3rd reciever cherade) Robinson has been hurting all year as well for what it's worth.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 2883 Posts 01/03/2005 @ 10:10:05 PM
oh sorry, viking receivers are still better		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Washington Bureau Chief 01/03/2005 @ 10:51:31 PM
charade		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 5111 Posts 01/03/2005 @ 11:30:17 PM
I didn't mean they are better, but you have to compare apples to apples, take the whole career into consideration, take their abilities and such, one year worth of stats when burleson was the only one who really saw the field is worthless.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - 1361 Posts 01/04/2005 @ 12:13:10 AM
Ok, so can we end all the arguments? Not because I don't love to talk sports and debate good sprots topics but haven't we reached the end of all of these topics? Is three years enough? Either we're debating that one receiver corp is better cause they have the top two with more receptions, or the other team is better cause they have one guy with more than everyone or the other is better cause there are three receivers on the team who have a lot of catches, or yards, or touchdowns. And then one quarterback throws for more than the other so are they better? No, they're not better, the refs gave it to them. Football sucks. No, baseball sucks. Basketball must suck, no? Your teams have criminals on them. No yours do. My team that I cheer for because of mostly arbitrary reasons is easily the most intrinsically good team around. Maybe I'll post something that will obviously get under another person's skin and then create a big argument that never ends.Bret Favre Brett Favre Brett Favre Brett Favre Brett Favre Brett Favre Brett FAvre Brett Favre. I'd have double bagged it.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - From now on, that's how you drive 01/04/2005 @ 12:20:42 AM
If you're comparing them long term than I suggest u realize that MRob has 1 season with more than 55 catches and he's about as injury prone as they come, so his being hurt all year is worth nothing. In 8 seasons he has played in all 16 games only 3 times. He's eclipsed the 750 yard mark once. Basically one-third of his career stats came from one year, 1999. Also, Walker has moved into at least the top 10 receivers in the NFL. He was 3rd in yards, 8th in receptions, 24th in avg (1 spot behind TO), 3rd in YPG (Moss was only 39th because of his token games), 6th longest catch, 6th in TDs, he did fumble twice (but Bruce, Holt, TO, J. Smith, D. Bennett, Porter, D.Jackson, and Muhammad also had at least 2 fumbles). Also, lets look at this way. Moss was hurt so it makes comparisons a little difficult. How about Walker + Driver versus Moss + Robinson + Burleson. Packers 173 rec 2600 yds 15.0 avg 21 tds Vikings 164 rec 2430 yds 14.8 avg 30 tds So we can clearly see that the Packers receivers had a better year, except for TDs. This can be explained by the fact that the Packers' TEs and FB combined for 10 receiving TDs while the Vikings same positions had only 4, and the Packers had 1 more rushing TD. And if you are really looking at the career stats it would be much easier to wait until after their careers are over. Finally, congratulations to me for picking TO, Manning, and Buffalo's defense who lead me to real fantasy victory despite the fact that my awesome lineup of draft day running backs failed me for the most part. Also, a shoutout to Terrence McGee and Willis McGahee for being there when I needed them.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 2098 Posts 01/04/2005 @ 12:25:54 AM
I started that comment before Jon's was posted, but in response to that if we aren't going to discuss sports here what are going to talk about? It's cold here in Menomonee Falls, how's the weather back ina;dfjdklasjfds... oops I fell asleep on the keyboard!!		Rate this comment