NFL 2004 Season Week 15 Picks
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| Steelers 33 @ Giants 30 Sat, 12/18/04 12:30pm CBS
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| Redskins 26 @ 49ers 16 Sat, 12/18/04 4:00pm FOX
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| Panthers 31 @ Falcons 34 Sat, 12/18/04 7:00pm ESPN
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| Bills 33 @ Bengals 17 Sun, 12/19/04 12:00pm CBS
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| Vikings 28 @ Lions 27 Sun, 12/19/04 12:00pm FOX
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| Cowboys 7 @ Eagles 12 Sun, 12/19/04 12:00pm FOX
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| Chargers 21 @ Browns 0 Sun, 12/19/04 12:00pm CBS
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| Broncos 17 @ Chiefs 45 Sun, 12/19/04 12:00pm CBS
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| Texans 24 @ Bears 5 Sun, 12/19/04 12:00pm CBS
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| Seahawks 14 @ Jets 37 Sun, 12/19/04 12:00pm FOX
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| Saints 21 @ Buccaneers 17 Sun, 12/19/04 3:05pm FOX
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| Rams 7 @ Cardinals 31 Sun, 12/19/04 3:05pm FOX
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| Titans 35 @ Raiders 40 Sun, 12/19/04 3:15pm CBS
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| Jaguars 28 @ Packers 25 Sun, 12/19/04 3:15pm CBS
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| Ravens 10 @ Colts 20 Sun, 12/19/04 7:30pm ESPN
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| Patriots 28 @ Dolphins 29 Mon, 12/20/04 8:00pm ABC
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| Week Record | 11 - 5 0.688  | 10 - 6 0.625  | 11 - 5 0.688 | 8 - 8 0.500  | ||||
| Season Record | 138 - 86 0.616 | 126 - 98 0.562 | 141 - 83 0.629 | 137 - 87 0.612 | ||||
| Lifetime Record | 471 - 286 - 1 0.621 | 418 - 339 - 1 0.551 | 457 - 300 - 1 0.603 | 459 - 298 - 1 0.606 |
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| Week: | 10 - 6 0.625 |
| Season: | 132 - 92 0.589 |
| Lifetime: | 457 - 300 - 1 0.603 |
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Jaguars 28 @ Packers 25
Jeremy: Jacksonville helping out the Vikes would be big. Best of all it could very well happen.Matt: Green Bay sucks. Jacksonville 32 - Green Bay 17
Jon: What are the odds that Green Bay kicks a last second field goal to win?
Sarah: When I watched the Jags play the Vikings, I can't say I was too impressed. (with either team! ha ha) Let's hope they play poorly against the Pack, because one win and we're in the play offs baby!
Ravens 10 @ Colts 20
Jeremy: All the Packer fans that are sick of the Peyton Manning talk: Multiply it by 100. Subtract a good reason to talk about him. Welcome to our world.Matt: Both teams should wear Colt uniforms for this one.
Jon: This game could be close, but it's at Indianapolis.
Sarah: I'm really getting tired of Peyton Manning. He only needs 3 td passes to break the record. It would be funny if the Ravens stopped him on national television. I would laugh.
Patriots 28 @ Dolphins 29
Jeremy: If there is such a thing as a lock in the NFL this is it. Right?Matt: I think that New England should have to pick a state or city. Same with Carolina, choose either North or South.
Jon: This one will be close, until kickoff.
Sarah: Wow, I wonder if New England can pull off the upset. It might be hard. Miami, what a craptastic year for them. On the other hand, I will have graduated on Saturday, so perhaps a good year for me.
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| What Packer fans are sick of Peyton Manning talk? |
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| Sarah - 1859 Posts 12/15/2004 @ 10:59:00 PM |
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| I'm sick of Peyton Manning, but don't pick on me because I am a Packer fan. Have you ever seen Brett Favre play? |
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 | Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet 12/15/2004 @ 11:00:58 PM |
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| Yeah, he's really lit it up the last couple of games. |
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| Jeremy - 5089 Posts 12/15/2004 @ 11:09:02 PM |
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| I've overheard many people talking about it by the way. Then they start talking about how Randy Moss drives over several school children as his pregame ritual...so they must be Packer fans...or stupid....although there is a fine li.......ok I'm done. |
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| Jeremy - 5089 Posts 12/15/2004 @ 11:42:14 PM |
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Take a look at what would happen if the playoffs started now. Here. You gotta like your chances over in the NFC. It's also kind of scary how not too unrealistic an NFC championship between the Packers and Vikings is. I can see it now, in a game that big the BFR would be enforced at least 12 times. |
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| Jon - Nutcan.com's kitten expert 12/16/2004 @ 12:27:03 AM |
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| Vikings Falcons it is! |
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| Sarah - 1859 Posts 12/16/2004 @ 08:51:47 AM |
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| I would be all for that, but only if the Packers won, because i f they didn't, I would never hear the end of it. |
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| Scott - 2882 Posts 12/16/2004 @ 09:08:03 AM |
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| ah yes, the Brett Favre rule keeps getting funnier and funnier, and the people who bring it up keep getting funnier and funnier. But we all know that the Vikings would choke on something, like they do every year. |
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| icbeast - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret 12/16/2004 @ 01:34:15 PM |
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I propose a new rule that anything that has been commented on over 50 billion times be taboo from here on out. Unless Peyton Manning runs into injury problems, there's no doubt in my mind that he will be the best QB ever. I love the no huddle and all the audibles and all that. It takes so much preperation and knowledge of the game and it puts so much pressure on him. How can you not have mad respect for that? |
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| Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 12/16/2004 @ 02:05:32 PM |
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freedom of the press...freedom of the press Manning is awesome. He is definitely benefitting from the rule changes favoring the receivers and the offense, but that doesn't take away from his performance. Maybe this is football's era of the "live ball". |
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| Scott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it. 12/16/2004 @ 05:43:00 PM |
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| Question of the Week: Is Ben Roethlisberger overrated? |
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| icbeast - 2092 Posts 12/16/2004 @ 05:50:58 PM |
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Yes and No. He's very good at doing what the Steelers need him to do. Put him on a team that can't run for 200 yards every game, and who knows. I think the Colts against the Lions and Bears were more of locks then New England against Miami. Division games are always tough, and Miami has scored more lately, although their defense seems to have given up as well. |
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| Sarah 12/16/2004 @ 09:33:16 PM |
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| Peyton drives me crazy with his stupid audibiling (sp) and wing flapping. |
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| Jeremy - Site Admin 12/16/2004 @ 09:58:08 PM |
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But Peyton is the closest to old school Terry "I called my own plays" Bradshaw as there is now-a-days. I don't know if he will be the best ever (or at least considered the best because for some rediculous reason your team has to win a super bowl for a QB to be considered great). During the offseason teams will realize how to stop Big Ben and he will go through a sophomore slump. It's hard to tell if he is good or not because his job is to just not lose the game, although so is Tom Brady's and he's considered top 5. |
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| Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet 12/16/2004 @ 10:03:34 PM |
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| By the way the reason I said I don't know if they can win the super bowl it's because giving 2 players half the salary cap will start to take it's toll on the team, since most contracts are back loaded. So it's this year, or very soon, or never. |
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| icbeast - 2092 Posts 12/16/2004 @ 10:27:27 PM |
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The contracts are back loaded, but the salary cap also usually rises every year. Plus there seems to be about 1 million little loop holes and tricks to make things work. Obviously with the offensive line starting to get more attention and a couple emerging d-linemen they won't be able to keep the team together completely. But no team can really do that, so as long as Manning is at the controls, getting wiser game-by-game, and Harrison is there to draw double teams their offensive should keep rolling. Plus I bet they'll resign James, who makes the play-action pass that much more effective. I think their chances of winning it this year are as good as anyone elses. In regards to the "live ball era" comment I'll whip out some info from the latest edition of The Magazine which has an article on Manning. First of all, live ball or not, he's going to easily break the record for TDs and still has a chance at the yardage record. Secondly, the biggest number for QBs is passer rating. And right now Mannings rating is 126.3, 13.5 points better then the season record. But it may seem like QB stats are up in general this year. So compare Mannings rating to the season average for everyone else. Through 12 weeks the average rating was 83.7, which is the highest ever. Still Mannings rating of 126.6 was 51.2% higher. That's the highest percentage difference since 1976 when Bert Jones (never heard of him) and Ken Stabler both topped the 50% mark. So basically, he's the man. I still don't know how the Patriots win, and obviously no one else does cause they can't beat them (except the Steelers who seem to be almost a clone, except the Patriots running backs basically stunk until this year). Lots of baseball transactions lately. Arizona has reloaded somewhat and could have a decent future is they deal the Unit for prospects. The Mariners loaded up with Big Sexy and Beltre. The Braves bolstered their pitching staff with Kolb and now Tim Hudson. Pedro is a Met, Renteria and D. Wells are Red Sox. Crazy stuff. I'm going to get my hopes up and predict a .500+ season for the Brewers. I think Lee will help a lot. So will having a catcher that hits better than -.005. Podsednik's base stealing probably isn't replaceable and they'll have to fing someone to take Kolb's spot, but I'm sure they're not done making moves yet. |
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| icbeast - 2092 Posts 12/16/2004 @ 10:34:37 PM |
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I completely forgot to mention the Apprentice. First of all, THAT WAS NOT A DEBATE. I hate it when they say that. Andy was stuck between two screaming females, any man who has argued with a female knows that it's not a debate. Debates have logic and rules and people taking turns talking. Secondly, this season was not as good as the first. I can't really explain it it just wasn't. Thirdly, the cheesy outtakes where Trump pretends to be on the phone with someone important are horrifically amusing (meaning really cheesy). How did they not get edited out? Fourthly, it was very close between Jen and Kelly. To place it in sports terms, as prospects I think Kelly is more prepared to step in and start but I think Jen had the better upside and potential in the long run. Which I suppose is a good reason to hire Kelly now. |
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| Cory - 44 Posts 12/16/2004 @ 10:38:17 PM |
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I hate baseball... give the world series trophy to the yankees |
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| Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman 12/16/2004 @ 11:10:07 PM |
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Sarah and I said the same thing about Andy when he was fired and about 50 times tonight. The two women were screaming back and foreth, hardly even getting words out, and at a certain point Andy just stopped trying to get a word in edgewise and somehow that was getting "out debated". I didn't see the beginning of the finale, so I don't know how the events played out, but going off of the whole season I think tonight was one of very few correct decisions Trump made this season. When Jen got the credit for doing the best job at Levi's I just wanted to strangle that Levi's exec. She contributed nothing, it was Ivana's baby, he threw out a question and Jen, who only turns it on to impress higher ups, "intercepted" the question and ineptly stumbled threw it as if it were her idea, or even a group effort. She was all board room and deserved to go home way before some of the other people. And yes, like anything else, the sequal is never as good. I bet as far as season 3 goes, where for those of you who don't know, the twist is it's book smarts vs street smarts. College educated vs. people who just did it and became sucessful. Who want's to bet Trump fires the "street smart" (A term made up by dumb people by the way) person every time (once the teams are inevitably mixed) even though it was probobly his idea to pit the teams up against each other anyway. I also bet we don't see season 4. Or shall I say the series will go until season 25, but wont be profitable past next year. |
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| icbeast - I will possess your heart 12/17/2004 @ 01:45:02 AM |
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| Trump's idea to make the teams? As if he makes those decisions. It's all Mark Burnett or whatever his name is. |
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| Jeremy - 5089 Posts 12/17/2004 @ 07:13:07 AM |
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| It was a stupid decision so I just assumed it was him. No, really I'm sure it wasn't but I'm betteing that Trump chooses the college people every time. |
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| Sarah 12/17/2004 @ 08:57:30 AM |
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Did trump go to college? Remember, Troy got pretty far in the first season. |
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| Jon - 1353 Posts 12/17/2004 @ 09:47:52 AM |
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Yes. He went to Wharton. As did Charles C. Butt, Chairman and President of the HEB grocery company. |
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| Sarah 12/17/2004 @ 09:52:31 AM |
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Good to know.... also good to know... NFL FILMS TELLS THE COMPLETE STORY OF A FOOTBALL LEGEND IN "FAVRE 4-EVER" ONE-HOUR SPECIAL NARRATED BY ACTOR BILLY BOB THORNTON -Premiering Friday, December 24 @ 12:00 p.m. (CT) On FOX -Re-airs Friday, December 31 @ 8:00 p.m. CT On NFL Network 2 Hours before the packer viking game, this is going to be seen across the U.S. of A. Merry Christmas! |
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| Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 12/17/2004 @ 10:17:33 AM |
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| God Bless America |
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| Matt - 1478 Posts 12/17/2004 @ 10:23:25 AM |
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| Charles C. Butt is the son of Howard E. Butt, for those who are interested. Also, it's technically H-E-B Grocery Company, and they are a top notch grocery store. |
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| Jon - infinity + 1 posts 12/17/2004 @ 11:04:47 AM |
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| It seems like Packer fans have a hard enough time drawing the line betwween sports and religion. Now a tv special for St. Brett will air on Christmas Eve Day? |
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| Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 12/17/2004 @ 11:09:59 AM |
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| ha......I think |
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| Sarah - 1859 Posts 12/17/2004 @ 11:52:05 AM |
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| football is life |
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| Scott - Dog fighting is sick. Don't be a Vick. 12/17/2004 @ 01:43:27 PM |
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| well, it's a part of life at least. |
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| Sarah - 1859 Posts 12/17/2004 @ 03:53:59 PM |
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| Who wants to go get their graduating on? |
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| Jon - 1000000 posts (and counting!) 12/17/2004 @ 04:00:12 PM |
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| Capstone Completed. |
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| Sarah - 1859 Posts 12/17/2004 @ 04:44:12 PM |
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| You finished it today? In the nick of time? Bravo |
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| Sarah 12/17/2004 @ 04:47:40 PM |
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John Clayton- The last time a conference was as down as the NFC is this year was in the late 1970s. Remember the dark ages of the NFC Central? From 1978 until the Chicago Bears emerged into a big-time team in 1984, the NFC Central was a parody of NFL parity. Only once from 1978 to 1983 did an NFC Central division winner have a 10-win season. In 1978, the Vikings and Packers tied for the division lead at 8-7-1. Ah the NFC Central. :) |
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| Sarah - 1859 Posts 12/17/2004 @ 04:48:37 PM |
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I should've kept reading.... what a jerk. :( "What happened? Why it is so bad? Using the First ... And 10 format, it's time to review the carnage known as the NFC. It's hard to call it First-and-10, though. The NFC looks more like Fourth-and-26." |
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| icbeast - From now on, that's how you drive 12/17/2004 @ 05:21:54 PM |
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Either that means the NFC looks like the Eagles (?) or the NFC looks like they're about to pull out an amazing comeback. Either way, it really makes no sense. The Nets just made what I'd call one of the worst trades ever. They got Vince Carter for Alonzo Mourning, Eric Williams, Aaron Williams, and 2 first round picks (one from Denver and one from Philly). I should probably investigate more about the financial situation of New Jersey, but trading 3 decent role players (and all big guys) and 2 first round picks for one disgruntled, injury-prone flash in the pan does not seem like a good move. But I don't like them anyway so that's good. |
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Vikings 28 @ Lions 27
Jeremy: The division is thiers if they win out. It needs to start here. I have a bad feelng.Matt: What would be worse than the Twins losing Koskie, is if they use that as an excuse to keep Rivas and Jones.
Jon: Joey Harrington appears to be the starter for this game. If the lions started Mike McMahon, this one would be a tossup. As it is, the Vikings should win, but who knows?
Sarah: Wow. I really think I screwed up my picks this week, but I feel that some teams are going to win just to piss people off. This may be one of those games. Either that, or I just pulled a Matt.