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| Seahawks 27 @ Vikings 23 Sun, 12/12/04 12:00pm FOX
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| Saints 27 @ Cowboys 13 Sun, 12/12/04 12:00pm FOX
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| Bengals 28 @ Patriots 35 Sun, 12/12/04 12:00pm CBS
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| Browns 7 @ Bills 37 Sun, 12/12/04 12:00pm CBS
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| Colts 23 @ Texans 14 Sun, 12/12/04 12:00pm CBS
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| Bears 3 @ Jaguars 22 Sun, 12/12/04 12:00pm FOX
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| Raiders 10 @ Falcons 35 Sun, 12/12/04 12:00pm CBS
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| Giants 14 @ Ravens 37 Sun, 12/12/04 12:00pm FOX
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| Dolphins 17 @ Broncos 20 Sun, 12/12/04 3:05pm CBS
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| Jets 6 @ Steelers 17 Sun, 12/12/04 3:05pm CBS
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| Lions 13 @ Packers 16 Sun, 12/12/04 3:15pm FOX
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| Buccaneers 24 @ Chargers 31 Sun, 12/12/04 3:15pm FOX
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| Rams 7 @ Panthers 20 Sun, 12/12/04 3:15pm FOX
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| 49ers 31 @ Cardinals 28 Sun, 12/12/04 3:15pm FOX
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| Eagles 17 @ Redskins 14 Sun, 12/12/04 7:30pm ESPN
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| Chiefs 49 @ Titans 38 Mon, 12/13/04 8:00pm ABC
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| Week Record | 12 - 4 0.750  | 10 - 6 0.625  | 13 - 3 0.812  | 13 - 3 0.812 | ||||
| Season Record | 127 - 81 0.611 | 116 - 92 0.558 | 130 - 78 0.625 | 129 - 79 0.620 | ||||
| Lifetime Record | 460 - 281 - 1 0.620 | 408 - 333 - 1 0.550 | 446 - 295 - 1 0.601 | 451 - 290 - 1 0.608 |
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| Week: | 11 - 5 0.688 |
| Season: | 122 - 86 0.587 |
| Lifetime: | 447 - 294 - 1 0.602 |
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Lions 13 @ Packers 16
Jeremy: The Lions haven't won here since like elementary school. That's really pretty sad.Matt: Green Bay Sucks. Detroit 23 - Green Bay 16
Jon: I want to pick detroit. I really do. But they inspire no confidence.
Sarah: I don't want to say we own Detroit in Green`Bay but.....
Eagles 17 @ Redskins 14
Jeremy: Philly really has no excuse. Although Minnesota played them close, despite playing awful, they will have home field in the cold. Come to think of it maybe that's the problem. Maybe they need to stop the home field advantage.Matt: I think the 'Skins, by far, overpayed for Cristian Guzman, I mean he doesn't even play football. Of course he doesn't really play baseball either. Rimshot!
Jon: What was up with Washington last week?
Sarah: Stupid Eagles. I just hate them sooo much
Chiefs 49 @ Titans 38
Jeremy: Looks like I need this one. We had another week of all picking the same thing.Matt: Who cares?
Jon: Trent Green is making a late run at MVP. Not really. But he has been having a good run of games.
Sarah: eh
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| y do jon and i have every pick the same? that doesn't happen. |
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| Scott - Resident Tech Support 12/09/2004 @ 04:02:26 PM |
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| I'll say it. The Lions haven't won in Green Bay since like 92. |
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 | Jeremy - Site Admin 12/09/2004 @ 05:27:59 PM |
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So if you play the odds they are due for a win. :) They wont though. |
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| Jeremy - 5109 Posts 12/09/2004 @ 05:45:47 PM |
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What more can they do on defense Jon? There are more high profile picks on D than O. Our big free agent was on d. Every time a defensive player leaves they are snatched up and starting somewhere else. I think the problem is we suffer the growing pains (look how young our d is) then as soon as they develop they go else where. We are in good cap shape for years to come so we will be hanging on to whoever we want. |
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| Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear 12/09/2004 @ 08:00:18 PM |
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Speaking of cap shape I found an article discussing Green Bay's upcoming offseason. I find this hard to believe, even though it is largly the system. "The Packers will likely be able to keep just one of their starting guards. They must decide if Franks is worth a long-term deal, or if they can get both younger and better at the position. And if they reach a long-term deal with Davenport, that could mean the end is near for Ahman Green, who becomes an unrestricted free agent in the spring of 2006." |
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| Sarah - 1862 Posts 12/09/2004 @ 08:40:50 PM |
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| That's what happens to our running backs. They give the best years of their lives and we dump them like yesterday's trash. Edgar Bennett, Dorsey Levens, etc. We find someone better just before they get a big payoff. |
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| Jeremy - 5109 Posts 12/09/2004 @ 08:50:47 PM |
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| Jeremy - 5109 Posts 12/09/2004 @ 08:57:30 PM |
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| I didn't look it up but I dont think Edgar or Dorsey was a top 5-10 back, and they played when it was Favre's team. |
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| Scott - 2883 Posts 12/10/2004 @ 12:38:36 AM |
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| Dorsey did rush for 1400+ yards in 1997, and he made the pro-bowl I think, so for a year he was probably at least a top 10 back. Edgar never really did anything special, and he never did anything at all once he left the Packers. Although he was a very good bad weather back because he never fumbled; I think he went 2 whole years at one point with the Packers without fumbling, but that only gets you so far. I think now he might actually be the running back coach. And if indeed Ahman Green's years are numbered, he's had a good run, and he has already paid off. |
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| Jon - 1359 Posts 12/10/2004 @ 03:14:35 AM |
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"What more can they do on defense Jon?" Answer: They could start to play well. I know they've TRIED to improve their defense through free agents and draft picks and whatnot. But it obviously hasn't worked. So the question is, will all of their efforts ever come to fruition? Will we actually see a good defense again in our lifetime? If so many are leaving, as you stated, could we have done more to keep them around? Will we do more in the future? Is there something fundamentally flawed about the way the team has been coached? Are we not finding the right kind of players? Are there such things as horse socks? Is anybody listening? I haven't done the hard research, but I can't seem to think of too many other teams in recent memory that have had this many consecutive years of bad defense. Even consistantly crappy teams seem to have a good defense almost by pure chance every now and then. |
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| Sarah 12/10/2004 @ 04:03:57 PM |
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| what i kind of meant was that the rb's work really hard, put in their best years, suffer an injury, and then their back ups take their place. The back ups are so good that when they come back from injuries, they've been replaced. Not so much as a good bye wave. Dorsey had some very good years with us. Yes, Edgar Bennett is a rb coach, he was in charge of player's something or other, but he got promoted, I say hello to him every game. |
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| icbeast - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret 12/10/2004 @ 06:19:51 PM |
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| Jeremy - Corduroy pillows are making headlines 12/10/2004 @ 11:54:09 PM |
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In years past we've had to decide to keep defense or offense and gone offense, the last 2 years and in the near future we will be in a position to sign whoever we want. I don't think it's a coaching problem per se, I think it's just the coaches aren't here long enough to make a difference. It's either here one year and didnt make us the best D ever so you're fired, or they go elsewhere. As young as the D is they need to play the same scheme for more than one season. If we can get a key vetran LB and a high FS in the draft I think we'll be ok for the near future. We ahve the players, they just make rookie mistakes because...well....they're rookies. |
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| icbeast - Refactor Mercilessly 12/11/2004 @ 03:33:20 PM |
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| So, I was watching some golf and a guy missed a fairly makeable putt and a fan cheered "Yes, yes!". Then the golfer turned toward the fans and gave a dirty look and acted all disgusted and offended. The whole incident made me think of "The Brawl" and the disparities between normally acceptable behavior for fans at different sporting events. Just imagine a bunch of screaming, obscenity yelling hecklers surrounding the 18th green at a golf tournament. I have no real point, it's just something interesting to ponder. |
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| icbeast - Talk to me Goose 12/11/2004 @ 03:35:41 PM |
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| I was 4 points away from winning a prize last week for my Best Buy football team. I finished 96th. I had Delhomme and he only managed 1 TD while the likes of Bledsoe had 4 and even Feely had 3. So close. |
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| Scott - Prince Fielder, the largest vegetarian since Stegosaurus 12/11/2004 @ 05:08:04 PM |
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that's weird about the golfers, especially because golf fans usually cheer for everyone, not just their favorites. And now the picks: Atlanta, Buffalo, Dallas, Jacksonville, Buffalo, Indianapolis, Minnesota, New England, Denver, New York Jets, St. Louis, Green Bay, Arizona, San Diego, Philadelphia, Kansas City Peyton Manning finally has an off day and only throws 1 td, but the Colts sneak out of Houston in a close surprise. My UPSET PICK OF THE WEEK: The Jets of Pittsburgh. Pennington is back and Curtis Martin is still good. Ben Roth fails to throw a td in yet another game and Pittsburgh can't decide whether to run Deuce or Jerome, and they can't get their running game going. Anyway, I'm picking The Jets to upset the Steelers in Pittsburgh. |
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| Matt - 1482 Posts 12/11/2004 @ 07:31:58 PM |
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| I picked the Jets 2 days ago. |
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| icbeast - 2097 Posts 12/11/2004 @ 10:04:42 PM |
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| I picked them on Tuesday. |
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| icbeast - 2097 Posts 12/12/2004 @ 01:44:03 AM |
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| The Brewers traded Kolb for a young pitcher and a player to be named from the Braves. I like it. Kolb was good, but almost lucky good. He never got strike outs. He's decent but not that great, so I think the Brewers could afford to trade him for a younger pitcher. They still need to get some bats though. |
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| Matt - Washington Bureau Chief 12/12/2004 @ 04:37:55 AM |
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| And since the Brewers only win about 5 games per year, they don't really need a closer. |
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| Jeremy - 5109 Posts 12/12/2004 @ 10:50:56 AM |
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| Matt Hasslebeck is one bald ass dude. Not that it's news to anyone....but damn |
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| icbeast - Refactor Mercilessly 12/12/2004 @ 11:27:15 AM |
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| Don't forget to factor the weather into your fantasy lineups this week! |
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| Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 12/12/2004 @ 12:44:57 PM |
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| Dan Kolb set a franchise record for saves last year. Also, before the all-star Break, he allowed exactly 0 extra base hits. That's dominance. He's a ground ball pitcher, and that is his strength. |
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| Jeremy - 5109 Posts 12/12/2004 @ 01:26:39 PM |
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| I don't know if they are pointing it out on TV but the vikings are trying a new "seconary free" defense today. |
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| Scott - Prince Fielder, the largest vegetarian since Stegosaurus 12/12/2004 @ 01:52:52 PM |
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| the refs are letting the DB's play today apparently |
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| Sarah - 1862 Posts 12/12/2004 @ 01:55:38 PM |
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| Germ why aren't u online? |
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| Sarah 12/12/2004 @ 02:37:16 PM |
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| Troy Brown for MVP? 3 int's on the year, tied for #1 on the team. Do I need to remind anyone that he's a wr? |
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| Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 12/12/2004 @ 02:41:21 PM |
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| man, you know things are going bad for seattle when something like that happens, and he doesn't even argue it. |
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| Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 12/12/2004 @ 02:54:05 PM |
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| of all the stuff the refs have been letting go all game, they call something like that pass interference. It didn't look that bad compared to most of the stuff they've let go in this game. |
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| Scott - Prince Fielder, the largest vegetarian since Stegosaurus 12/12/2004 @ 02:55:15 PM |
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| never mind, thank you randy |
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| Sarah - 1862 Posts 12/12/2004 @ 03:11:34 PM |
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| so that game was over right? |
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| Scott - 2883 Posts 12/12/2004 @ 03:12:36 PM |
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| icbeast - 2097 Posts 12/12/2004 @ 03:12:58 PM |
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| Worst play call ever. Why would u do that? Did anyone else notice that Moss seemed to still be smiling after that play? If that was me I be super-pissed. |
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| Jeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!? 12/12/2004 @ 03:16:45 PM |
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| No one slits their own wrists quite like the Vikings. We didn't even WANT to score right then so what was the wr option??!! |
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| Sarah - 1862 Posts 12/12/2004 @ 03:34:36 PM |
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| that was a good stand, despite the awful calls by the stupid refs. |
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| Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 12/12/2004 @ 03:34:40 PM |
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| yeah, the vikings suck. Do you think Tice will be back next season? |
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| Sarah - 1862 Posts 12/12/2004 @ 03:45:34 PM |
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| maybe it was in lenon's elbow long enough that it was ok that it hit the ground |
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| Sarah 12/12/2004 @ 03:50:44 PM |
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| what's his record? i don't they seem to collapse. |
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Seahawks 27 @ Vikings 23
Jeremy: Seattle runs hot and cold. I'm sure they will run hot for this one. The Vikes had another key injury, their big free agent is out for 2-3 weeks. This might kill them. Unless of course we get Randy back for this one rather than whoever has worn his jersey the last couple weeks.Matt: An old Jerry Rice vs. a hobbled Randy Moss. The NFL it's Faaaantastic. Or something like that.
Jon: You know what I'm sick of? The Minnesota defense being bad. It's been bad for six years now. And most of those years it hasn't just been bad, it's been awful. There's no rule that says that having a good offense means you must have a bad defense. Certainly that often is the case on a year by year basis. But this has been half a decade of bad defense. Daunte Culpepper and Randy Moss will see their prime years go by with nothing to show for it unless the organization takes a stand and does something about the defense.
Sarah: Seattle lost a tight one last week and apparently got screwed by the refs. Holmgren has always had luck in Minnesota....