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Colts 41 @ Lions 9
Thu, 11/25/04 11:37am
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Bears 7 @ Cowboys 21
Thu, 11/25/04 3:35pm
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Titans 21 @ Texans 31
Sun, 11/28/04 12:00pm
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Redskins 7 @ Steelers 16
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Eagles 27 @ Giants 6
Sun, 11/28/04 12:00pm
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Browns 48 @ Bengals 58
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Jaguars 16 @ Vikings 27
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Chargers 34 @ Chiefs 31
Sun, 11/28/04 12:00pm
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Buccaneers 14 @ Panthers 21
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Saints 21 @ Falcons 24
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Ravens 3 @ Patriots 24
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Jets 13 @ Cardinals 3
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Dolphins 24 @ 49ers 17
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Bills 38 @ Seahawks 9
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Raiders 25 @ Broncos 24
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Rams 17 @ Packers 45
Mon, 11/29/04 8:00pm
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Colts 41 @ Lions 9

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Apparently a random number generator was employed to determine kickoff time for this game. This is a make or break game for Harrington. One more stinker, on national tv, might earn him a spot on the bench. 200 yards offense and 10 points won't cut it against Indy.
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The only redeeming part of Thanskgiving is getting both Pumpkin and Pecan Pie at the same time.
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Be thankful.
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Ah Thanksgiving. Maybe Detroit will have the edge since it's Thanksgiving, but after the debacle at Minnesota, I give them no credit. Here's my theory: Manning is going to inherit the Marino curse. Yea sure he's going to break the record, but he's never going to win a Super Bowl. Bully for you Peyton!

Bears 7 @ Cowboys 21

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If I were out of football for 3 years and then expected to be the corner stone of a franchise who's fans have higher expecations than most others and my first play of the game was a fumble down to like the one yard line I might take another 3 years off.
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Could this game be any less interesting?
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Happy Thanksgiving. Take some time to thank someone for what they've done for you.
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So much for my pick of Chicago beating Indy last week. Oops. Both of these teams stink. But, I'm giving the edge to Dallas for some odd reason. Krenzel is no Big Ben, that's for sure. I'm still amazed that it's Thanksgiving already. Happy Thanksgiving!

Jaguars 16 @ Vikings 27

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Randy could be back. Since this is the Vikings it goes without saying that Leftwich will make his return as well. 2-3 without your best player over what is your toughest stretch of games anyway is hardly a "collapse". Vikes will go 5-1 to finish the season. The Packers will go 3-3 and hope that's enough to not watch from home.
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Jermaine Wiggins for MVP!!!
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This one could be tough. I think it will come down to the team who scores more points.
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Minnesota was kind of eh last Sunday, and I think Jacksonville is going to tear it up against them. We'll get the final results on Sunday. Ooo I got distracted for a minute, they just showed Tom Brady looking all debounairre or however you spell it. Yummy.

Raiders 25 @ Broncos 24

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Mmmm...MMmmm...member when the Broncos beat the Packers in the superbowl? That was awesome.
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Too many games, not enough comments to go around.
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Denver might win the Super Bowl this year.
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These two teams are always playing against each other. It's getting a little old. I'm giving this one to Denver.

Rams 17 @ Packers 45

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Let the collapse begin! (Collapse having been redefined as losing 2-3 games no one expected you to win anyway) As pass happy as Martz is normally he might just leave Faulk and Jackson at home for this one. Depending on which Rams team shows up this one could go from zero to awesome in one quarter.
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Tony Fisher is the best running back since Vince Workman.
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Even though it's outdoors, I like the Rams' chances. In other words, I hope Green Bay loses.
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Ah our enemy of the late '90's/early '00's. I hope we pound the crap out of them because they're finally at our house. WOOF! The win against the Texans, wowza I was a bit nervous to say the least, and then the FG didn't look good but then it was and I rejoiced and it was all good. "It made Dick Vermeil cry."
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10/25/2004 @ 02:36:02 AM
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This is just to piss Jeremy off.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8989 Posts
10/25/2004 @ 09:32:12 PM
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No more random early comments should show up.
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11/22/2004 @ 07:47:50 PM
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That's funny.
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11/22/2004 @ 08:01:22 PM
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Looks like I'll catch Sarah this week.
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11/22/2004 @ 08:59:55 PM
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You wish.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/23/2004 @ 11:15:00 AM
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the Packers are down to one healthy running back. Just one, that includes fullbacks and running backs. William henderson is the only back for green bay who isn't nursing something right now. Maybe he'll pull a Matt Bernstein and rush for like 130 yards or something.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/23/2004 @ 11:28:45 AM
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Indy, Dallas, Houston, KC, Jacksonville, Philly, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, New England, New York Jets, San Francisco, Seattle, Denver, Green Bay

Dallas finally wins a game, at home on thanksgiving is a good time to break out of season long funks. Indy-Chicago couldn't be much more of a mismatch if there ever was one. New Orleans beat Atlanta, seriously, how is Atlanta possibly 7-2, things should right themselves before the season is over. Minnesota loses to Jacksonville in a close one. Green Bay crushes St. Louis, and the Packers come out with the top passing offense in the NFC, possibly the entire NFL. Did you know that the Packers have only gotten sacked a total of 5 times all season? That's crazy.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8989 Posts
11/23/2004 @ 07:52:29 PM
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Yeah, what must it be like to be down to your 4th string back?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - I believe virtually everything I read.
11/23/2004 @ 07:59:03 PM
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And as long as we are naming hypothetical mismatches how about Miami vs Pitt. Me vs PDW. Hurrican Andrew vs Ditka. Logical rational vs Women.
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11/23/2004 @ 11:06:33 PM
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It's not just that their down to their fourth string, it's that every running back is hurt in some way, I'm sure not all of them will miss the game, but it just seems strange. They'll win no matter what.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/24/2004 @ 02:08:08 PM
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I mean, seriously, william henderson is going to have to block for himself. Or Ben Steele will play fullback maybe, or maybe torrance marshel. Remember when Ben Steele recovered that fumble against the vikings, and remember when he used to play for the vikings in training camp, ok so I don't remember that part, but he did, and now I'm going home for hunting and turkey and 7 hours of watching football
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8989 Posts
11/24/2004 @ 02:53:01 PM
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Remember when Jerry Rice fumbled before the OWENS OWENS OWENS play? Imagine if the refs took a game like that from you yearly and you didn't have to go back like 6 seasons to remember the last time the refs screwed you. Add in the fact that you owe the refs for 2 of the last 3 wins and I wouldn't be so cocky if I were you. They can't win them all for you and you can't win them all on last second field goals.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/24/2004 @ 08:26:40 PM
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2 of the last 3 games? what does that mean. Seriously, 2 of the 3 vikings fans I've talked to after the packers-vikings game said they had no problem with the reffing, one of the 3 thinks there is a conspiracy around the nfl to help the packers. It's ignorance if you think that one call can change a game, even in the redskins game, by definition, that play that got called back was a penalty. It is not the Packers fault that teams make these mistakes. No ref has won a single game for the packers this year, and if some does think that, well, they can live in their own little world if they want.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - I believe virtually everything I read.
11/24/2004 @ 09:59:43 PM
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Everything I read, some of which was from a packer message board the call in the Redskins game was complete bs and at best a ticky tack, never called penalty.

It's not a conspiracy, it's just lucky.
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11/24/2004 @ 11:08:32 PM
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100% of Viking's fans I talked to said the Packer/Viking game was complete bs, and also about 75% of the Packer fans. As my brother just said about the Redskins game that penalty (if it even was one) is never called.

So tomorrow being Thanksgiving and all, this is a perfect opportunity for you Packer fans to be thankful for all the luck that the Packers are receiving this year. Just know that once it runs out so does their shot at a division title.


The moral of the story:


start praying for a wildcard bid.
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11/25/2004 @ 09:16:31 AM
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Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! (even to those Packer haters out there) Not to get all mushy or sentimental or whatever, but in this crazy world, I think we all have a lot to be thankful for. So take a moment to recognize all that you have today.
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scott.jpgscott - 6225 Posts
11/25/2004 @ 11:56:19 AM
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but still, saying that the refs "gave" the packers a game is nothing more than whining. The Packers did actually score on the insuing drive after the penalty. And for the record, I have seen that penalty called more than a couple times, but I'm a packer fan, so my view on penalties is distorted.
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11/25/2004 @ 01:25:01 PM
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The penalty is called a lot, but not for what happened to draw the penalty in the instance.

The Packers scored yes, but who knows what would happen if there are 7 more points on the board. You know Kaos theory and what not. Plus even if you could say that the game would play out exactly the same the packers score would have just sent it to OT and who knows what would happen then.

It's funny that the refs can never give the Packers wins but people still complain about the Owens Owens Owens play taking one.

It's like when republicans argue that the bad economy has nothing to do with who's in office, that the economy is cyclical, but then try to argue that any improvments in the economy are thanks to Bush.
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
11/25/2004 @ 01:57:11 PM
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You guys need to chill out. The Packers have had some lucky situations this year, every team needs some to win every now and then. They've had games where more calls went in their favor, no doubt. They also managed to win last week, on the road, coming back from a deficit, without a running game, and the penalties in that game were completely in favor of the Texans (though most of them were actually good calls, they just missed quite a few on the Texans). The Vikings survived last week, and now that Moss is back they're looking up. The Packers now have some injuries and a tough schedule ahead, but they're on a roll. Carrol has improved about %500 since the beginning of the season, and while not dominant by any means, they've made stops when they really needed too. Wouldn't it be great if both teams could run the table until the Christmas game?
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11/25/2004 @ 03:08:03 PM
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Yeah the games last week were pretty simmilar, both of us looked pretty sad in the first half and shut the other team down in the second.

I think it would kill all of us if both teams run the table until the christmas eve game.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/25/2004 @ 08:47:17 PM
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That Dallas-Chicago game was about the most boring game ever, but one of the most fun thanksgiving day games. In the 3rd quarter my brother dad and I were rooting for negative yardage for both teams, and we were cheering for most of it. What a classic. Leon Lett, I hardly knew ye.
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11/26/2004 @ 02:00:37 PM
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Jeremy asked me who we play next week. I didn't know. We play the Eagles. Damnit. 4th and 26 is going to be brought up all next week, I might have a break down. This Monday night is going to be cool though because it's going to be all about Favre and I know that will make some people go crazy. Nah nah nah.
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scott.jpgScott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue.
11/26/2004 @ 05:59:44 PM
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Favre isn't making a milestone start or anything, is he?
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11/26/2004 @ 07:56:45 PM
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maybe.... tee hee
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11/26/2004 @ 07:56:55 PM
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The wife and I just watched the last half of the apprentice replay. I must say that Trump is truly showing the business saavy of a guy who is synonmous with bankruptcy.
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11/27/2004 @ 11:15:11 AM
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11/27/2004 @ 02:10:50 PM
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cheap attack, people who will do just about anything. The "as good as a punt thing" was 100% true, not that it was ok for favre to throw an int, but the int pinned the texans inside their own 15 on a 3rd and long play. I'm not sure what's more annoying, excessive Favre praise (and trust me, there is) or people who post stuff like that.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/27/2004 @ 02:17:21 PM
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and how rediculously inaccurate that post is. Joe Theisman did NOT agree that it was as good as a punt, I know, I have it on tape and I watched it again last night. Joe said from a QB standpoint an int is never as good as a punt. Credibility....shattered....play beer

It's really more like......"Desperate Page 3 Writers", or pretty much just writer=)


sidenote.....Joe Theisman's name in college was pronounced Theesman, with a long e and an s sound like that of the biggening of the word "song". He, or someone around him, changed the pronounciation of his name to what it currently is in an effort to make him more marketable for the Heisman trophy, so that his name would rhyme with Heisman. It didn't work because he didn't win it. FYI
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
11/27/2004 @ 02:25:30 PM
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I just watched the play again. The announcers spent about 90 seconds talking about what a wonderful interception it was (and it was a good one) and about 5 seconds giving an INTELLIGENT explanation as to why it was about equivilant to a good punt, (and the way the packers have punted this season, it was). Joe did indeed deny that it was as good as a punt, from a qb perspective. Some people might not recognize intelligent football conversation when they here it, but that's ok, I won't hold it against them (or maybe I will.)
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11/27/2004 @ 02:26:36 PM
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hear, not "here
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
11/27/2004 @ 02:44:36 PM
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Intelligent football conversation? From Paul McGuire and Joe Theisman? LOL!!!!!!!!

Those two guys, especially McGuire, are probably the worst announcers ever. They make Madden look like a broadcasting genius.

As far as Favre stuff goes, it's not uncommon for broadcasters to dote on future Hall of Famers in their later years. Do they repeat the same things over and over until it's annoying? Certainly. Also not uncommon for broadcasters. I remember watching the last Badgers game the announcer repeated that "If Iowa wins they get a share of the Big Ten title and Michigan will go to the Rose Bowl. But if Wisconsin wins, they will go to the Rose Bowl." He said that at least 40 times, and that was just in the amount of the game I was able to watch.

Illinois' basketball team is really good.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/27/2004 @ 04:01:46 PM
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i think worst announcer award goes to pretty much everyone at fox
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11/27/2004 @ 04:58:05 PM
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Fox commentators have no idea what they're talking about and yet I can't stand to watch games on CBS. I don't know what it is. As for the Page 3 writer(s) who need to rip on Favre or rip on the media for praising Favre, well they're just jealous. Does it get annoying? eh. But Favre is really really good. So there, suck it up. I'm sure one day Culpepper will be getting that kind of praise. (um yea right)
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11/27/2004 @ 07:32:43 PM
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OK it's time for me to break down this issue...for the second time actually, since I erased my first post accidentally.

The picture Jeremy put up was funny. Ha ha funny? not for me, but amusing.
Do most announcers slobber over favre and other greats? Yes, but that doesn't mean we should just sit back and not protest. Let's all be honest...they say ridiculous stuff. The favre loving is excessive and here's how you can tell. Multiple packer fans have told me they've noticed it. And not just at times when I've asked about it. Some have volunteered the ifromation. That should tell you someting about the magnitude of the problem as well.


Admittedly, I did not see the Texans game, so I was not an eyewitness to the events, but...
As far as the "as good as a punt thing", here's the deal.

It is true that a third down long interception is basically as good as a punt GIVEN THAT YOU DIDN'T COMPLETE THE PASS. In other words, once it's been determined that the Texans are getting the ball, it doens't matter much whether it's a punt or that interception. That's pretty clear after a few moments of thought. But here's the thing...that wasn't a given on the play, was it?

To say that it was as good as a punt implies, at least to a certain extent, that it was a no-loss situation. However, it was clearly not a no-loss situation since the Packers could have completed the pass and gotten a first down. The interception was not just a bad thing from the quarterback's perspective, as if it were only bad because it would hurt stats or ego or something, it simply was a bad thing for the Packers.
Claiming it is as good as a punt puts the focus on the fact that IF the Texans are going to get the ball on the 15 it doesn't matter much how they get it there. Focusing on that piont is the announcers' choice to make, But think for a moment whether that is the main, "point", if you will, of the play. The answer is clearly no.
The "point" of the play? Same as any other interception. But claiming that it was as good as a punt seems to take the edge off the bad thing no?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Robots don't say 'ye'
11/27/2004 @ 09:41:05 PM
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Good night people!

First of all stop talking like I made the picture.

Secondly the INT comment has less to do with that particular play per se and more to do with the fact that almost ALL Favre's INT's are rationalized like that. Most of the times it's blamed on the recievers.

Giving a sure fire hall of famer his props is one thing, but I've never heard announcers discuss Jerry Rice in a completely unrelated college game for half the game like they did during a game today.

It's reached obsurd proportions and someone poked a little fun at the obsurdity. Lighten up people.

I really get a kick out of how defensive people are about the issue because they know it's true.

All Theisman disagreed with was the fact that it's not "as good as a punt" to a QB
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11/27/2004 @ 10:01:00 PM
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Also it should be pointed out that if INT's in that situation are as good as a punt then a good amount of INT's are. When is the last time you heard the announcers point that out?

Scott is focusing on the validity of the claim while I think we're all talking about the fact that they made the claim period.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/27/2004 @ 10:01:13 PM
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Kevin Stempke is punting for the Rams on Monday. That's awesome. (he's a former Badger)
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
11/27/2004 @ 10:52:06 PM
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The Bears signed Jeff George.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?"
11/28/2004 @ 12:34:20 AM
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That's not good for the rest of us in the NFC North. Jeff George is not only good but a 900% improvment over what they have. And no I'm not being sarcastic.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4131 Posts
11/28/2004 @ 09:39:35 AM
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Hail from the chief: Gov. Jim Doyle proclaimed Monday as Brett Favre Day in Wisconsin in honor of what will be the 200th consecutive start by the Packers quarterback.

Yeah.
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11/28/2004 @ 09:45:33 AM
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I'm not worried. He's better than what they have, but calling him good is somewhat of a stretch in my opinion, especially considering that he's now on the bears. he's had a couple decent years, 1 with the vikes, and 1 with the raiders, but I think he's shakey, plus he hasn't played since 2001. He does get sacked a lot(almost 3 times per game) oh well, we'll see how he does.
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11/28/2004 @ 10:00:52 AM
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He wont do well at all, that doesn't mean it's not a huge upgrade.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4131 Posts
11/28/2004 @ 12:29:12 PM
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Jags are looking pathetic. That's nice.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4131 Posts
11/28/2004 @ 12:42:38 PM
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boo ya
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/28/2004 @ 12:55:17 PM
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i agree that George is better than what they have, but when you have moldy bread, getting hard stale bread doesn't make your sandwhich that much better (wow, how did I come up with that)

was that field goal good?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Super Chocolate Bear
11/28/2004 @ 04:43:39 PM
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True, but it does make it edible.
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scott.jpgscott - 6225 Posts
11/28/2004 @ 04:51:10 PM
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i just drove from the start of the north crossing to upper campus without having to stop at a single red light. That's like 11 green lights in a row. That's gotta be some sort of record.

stupid vikings
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
11/28/2004 @ 06:42:10 PM
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you know the History Channel is out of ideas when they run the show "Modern Marvels: Toilet Paper" sheesh
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Robots don't say 'ye'
11/28/2004 @ 10:00:58 PM
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This struck me as so odd when I read it I had to go look for myself. There are only 5 teams in the NFC above .500. If the rams win tommorrow there's 6.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!?
11/28/2004 @ 11:01:04 PM
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If Oakland kicked the extra point earlier in the game instead of going for 2 they could have just kicked the extra point on their last TD and the last second blocked field goal would have been to send to OT not to win the game.

Will coaches ever learn?
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newalex.jpgicbeast - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose
11/29/2004 @ 12:09:24 AM
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I disagree. In the fourth quarter with the game going the way it was, I think it was the right call to go for 2. Their problem was that they went for 2 twice and didn't get it either time. That was a good game.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - No one's gay for Moleman
11/29/2004 @ 01:05:02 PM
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It doesn't matter how the game is going because that can change in a matter of seconds. The fact of the matter is coaches go for it too early and more often than not it ends up killing them.

Please find me a new job someone.
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11/29/2004 @ 03:30:20 PM
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BK is always hiring. I'm sure they'd be more than happy to have you back. :)
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children.
11/29/2004 @ 07:37:44 PM
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Is anyone watching Trading Spouses? This Vegan woman is just bat shit insane. She's fine, then crying, then fine within like a 15 second span.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Robots don't say 'ye'
11/29/2004 @ 08:01:38 PM
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Ben Stiller? Really?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8989 Posts
11/29/2004 @ 08:15:57 PM
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Just when I think the Vikings win with a once in a lifetime lucky break the packers get the same thing like 10 seconds into the game.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8989 Posts
11/29/2004 @ 08:30:13 PM
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Your certification letter for luckiest team in the NFL is in the mail.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4131 Posts
11/29/2004 @ 08:41:38 PM
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This is what I have to put up with. :(
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scott.jpgScott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings
11/29/2004 @ 08:44:04 PM
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - No one's gay for Moleman
11/29/2004 @ 08:54:03 PM
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Here John Madden has been posting under the guise of Scott all along.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Pie Racist
11/29/2004 @ 10:19:32 PM
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So let me get this straight, by NFL rule a coach can call a timeout at any point during a play and that play is dead. So a coach could watch a play for 10 seconds watch his QB heave it downfield realize it's going to be picked off, call a timeout, and the play is dead?

So basically by NFL rule you get 6 mulligans a game if you choose to use them as such?
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist
11/29/2004 @ 10:24:10 PM
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With Martz at the helm how do the Rams have a win? A fake FG in that situation? Come on.
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scott.jpgscott - 6225 Posts
11/29/2004 @ 10:26:15 PM
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it's true, even the packers get screwed sometimes. I know, it's hard to believe.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8989 Posts
11/29/2004 @ 10:39:14 PM
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If that's the rule I dont see how it's a screwing.

That happened to us twice against the lions (and we got the ball both times to boot) and we didnt know what was going on.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?"
11/29/2004 @ 11:12:54 PM
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Did the Rams set a record for driving the field at will only to blow it somehow and come away with zero points?

How do you even manage 450 yards and only 17 points?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Pie Racist
11/29/2004 @ 11:17:19 PM
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There's lucky and then there's Green Bay. This game wasn't a 10th of the blowout it looks to be.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8989 Posts
11/29/2004 @ 11:20:06 PM
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JUST TAKE A KNEE
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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
11/29/2004 @ 11:24:38 PM
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other teams bad play is always assumed to be just luck on the packers part. Not for other teams though.
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11/29/2004 @ 11:25:01 PM
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Looky me I'm jeremy. LALALA PACKERS ARE THE LUCKIEST TEAM EVER. Look they win a game, what luck. Oh my God they've won six now, all luck. That's all the packers are, one big sack of luck. Luck. :)
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11/29/2004 @ 11:27:18 PM
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The Rams suck.

After next week:

Minnesota 8-4
Green Bay 7-5
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist
11/29/2004 @ 11:30:25 PM
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Well come on, two garbage time tds on fluke plays within like 2 seconds of each other? Who else does that happen for?

I never said the Rams bad play was Packer luck. Two gimmie TD's with like two seconds to go is luck.

And no Bret all 6 havent been luck, but two of them were.

I admitted our break at the end of the Jacksonville game was lucky. I even said as we were leaving "We finally got our 'Packer' play". But just to remind us that they are the lords of all that is lucky the packers open and close the game with the same play.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8989 Posts
11/29/2004 @ 11:56:54 PM
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It was a solid, no questions asked, 100% legit, blowout, win, stop reading so far into what I said referencing 3 plays.
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
11/30/2004 @ 12:32:29 AM
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Davenport did have a 70 yard touchdown against the rams last season. That was probably luck too though.

But take away those 2 thouchdowns, and they still win by 14, which is a good win, but those kinds of things are confidence builders. I mean, a 28 point win looks and feels a lot better than a 14 point win. I think those last 2 touchdowns will be the push the packers needed to beat the Eagles in Philly next week.

Luck is when opportunity meets preparation.

Ok, I'm done, happy Brett Favre day, although I think Najeh Davenport should have made the horse trailer, but I guess 200 games is a good reason to be on it. Here's to continuing to win out for the rest of the season.

i'm 102-74, after going 9-7 this week.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8989 Posts
11/30/2004 @ 12:41:52 AM
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A touchdown when you aren't even trying to score is lucky, what does that have to do with last year?

Matt has officially entered his "behind by a few and the only way to make it up is to pick 6 upsets a week and hope for the best downward spiral" phase of the season.
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matt.jpgMatt - Nutcan.com's MBL
11/30/2004 @ 01:19:04 AM
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My season record bears no influence on my weekly picks. I just don't pay much attention to the NFL besides the Vikings.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/30/2004 @ 09:07:11 AM
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45-17. That was the exact same score by which the Rams humiliated the Packers in the 2001 divisional playoffs. It wasn't luck afterall, it was karma.
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2887.gificbeast - 3618 Posts
11/30/2004 @ 02:41:14 PM
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103-73, 13-3
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newalex.jpgicbeast - I don't need to get steady I know just how I feel
11/30/2004 @ 06:26:04 PM
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and I'm still in first thanks to McGahee
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8989 Posts
11/30/2004 @ 07:27:12 PM
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Paytons 50 point day didnt hurt you either, imagine if you started Porter.
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - Nutcan.com's MBL
11/30/2004 @ 10:07:23 PM
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I thought Walter Payton was dead.
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - Nutcan.com's MBL
11/30/2004 @ 10:08:20 PM
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Now, Peyton Manning.... he had a good game.
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11/30/2004 @ 10:13:42 PM
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HL2DM is the w1nn3r!! Click here


Alex, you'd better finish playing HL2 single player now because you must play some multi-player this weekend with the Jerm and I.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Robots don't say 'ye'
11/30/2004 @ 10:32:47 PM
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I wish HL2 didn't absolutly kill me. I can't see for like a day and I want to puke after like half an hour.
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