NFL 2004 Season Week 10 Picks

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/10/2004 @ 06:53:45 PM
If by "always falter" you mean lost 4 last year then I agree.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4605 Posts 11/10/2004 @ 08:44:40 PM
After winning your first 6 games, you only needed to win 4 out of the next 10 games last year. You won 3. Good luck with all that.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?" 11/10/2004 @ 08:58:11 PM
We lost 4 and then went 3-3. Besides that was last year. One time. Not "always".		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 11/11/2004 @ 07:08:09 AM
When was the last time u guys were in the playoffs? 2000?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 11/11/2004 @ 07:24:21 AM
What does that have to do with "always faltering at this time"?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 11/11/2004 @ 02:12:28 PM
trust us, it does		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - 3375 Posts 11/11/2004 @ 04:05:33 PM
Ok first, let's just all agree that Sarah's use of the word "always" was improper. Second, Grady Jackson will not singlehandedly stop the Vikings offense. Not even the run. And don't tell me that they've done so well since he came back. They've improved, but they're still not good. Both opposing teams averaged over 4 yards per carry since he's back. And neither team (Dallas, Washington) has the balanced attack like the Vikings. Also, I wanted to pick St. Louis, but changed it. I think Alexander will be the difference in the game. Just give him the ball, Mike.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/11/2004 @ 05:29:40 PM
without Moss, the vikings passed for only 154 yards against the leagues WORST pass defense last week. Against the Giants, they got 231 yards through the air, which is good, but well below their average per game, and the 5.6 yards per pass average isn't exactly too impressive. 3 weeks ago against the Titans the Vikes only passed for 161 yards, again without moss for most of the game, and another low yards per throw number. Without moss, the Vikings are playing well below their average for the games when they do have moss. I know that it's packers-vikings and stats don't matter when you're talking rivalry, but it appears that even against modest defenses the last 2 to 3 weeks, the Vikings offense has stumbled. Things should be no different this weekend.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4605 Posts 11/11/2004 @ 06:34:24 PM
Always.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - I hate our freedoms 11/11/2004 @ 06:36:29 PM
Maybe the Vikes and Colts always have bad pass defenses because they consistantly put a bajillion points on the board and teams play catch up. (Like Vinnies 50+ pass attampts in week one)		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 3619 Posts 11/11/2004 @ 06:52:29 PM
Shouldn't it be easier to stop a team if you know they are going to pass every single down?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - I don't need to get steady I know just how I feel 11/11/2004 @ 06:57:58 PM
BALT, TB, PITT, DET, TENN, INDY, SEA, KC, WASH, ARI, SF, GB, BUFF, PHILLY And for Jon's sake, I'm picking Buffalo because of McGahee and Lee Evans.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/11/2004 @ 07:06:19 PM
Remember when I mentioned the scheduling screw job last week? Its only the fifth time in NFL history that a home team, coming off a bye, will host a road team that played the previous Monday night. Add that to the fact that you guys got us off your bye last year and I cry BS on you NFL! The Vikes are second in passing and 10th (better than the packers) in Rushing. Since Moss got hurt the Vikes have averaged 322 yards a game. Which is better than like half the league's average per game. So where their pass offense has lacked the running game has picked up. That's called balance. I'm not expecting a win Sunday, but it's not out of the question either. The ball is about 98% in Green Bay's court.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - Who controls the past now controls the future 11/11/2004 @ 09:55:51 PM
Since the game is in Green Bay, the ball will actually be 100% in their "court". Ha ha, giggle giggle. How can the ball be 98% in Green Bay's court? How can you keep saying (not in these exact words, but still) that it would be such a big upset if the Vikings win? You just gave statistics that would say the Vikings have a very good chance of winning. And they have the better record. And what happened to any given Sunday? Or is it any given Sunday except when the Vikings play the Packers after the Vikings had a Monday night game and the Packers had a bye and Randy Moss is hurt? You're a flip-flopper.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/11/2004 @ 10:33:53 PM
I didnt say it would be a huge upset, but you'ld be a complete moron to not agree the Packers have about a million things in their favor for this game.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 11/11/2004 @ 10:51:43 PM
Viking fans whine a bit. Ok so moving on.... road trip to the cities on friday to catch bridget jones edge of reason? any takers?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/11/2004 @ 11:13:15 PM
If whining = stating facts then I agree.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/12/2004 @ 01:24:44 AM
i'm also confused, I think the Packers will win, but you posted stats about how the vikings offense is better passing and rushing, yet it's like 10 to 1 odds in favor of the Packers? I'm curious why you feel that way. Oh yeah, it's because the Randy Moss "myth" isn't a myth so much as it is a fact.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - infinity + 1 posts 11/12/2004 @ 02:55:17 AM
I'll say it. I expect the Vikings to win. I think we're a better team than the Packers even without Moss. I expect Minnesota to have about 175 yards rushing. I think Coke is better than Pepsi and am confident that Letterman is far superior to any late night host this side of Johnny Carson.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 11/12/2004 @ 07:20:36 AM
I posted those stats because you posted stats questioning Jon's balance comment. Alot of the Packer players thought that the Vikings were playing mind games and Moss was really going to start. I don't know why Tice made the announcement he's officially out so early. I'm not quite sure what the "Randy Moss 'myth'" is so I can't comment on that.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/12/2004 @ 09:31:20 AM
someone made a comment a couple weeks ago (after the titans game) that the idea that the vikings are no good without randy moss is just a myth. I'm saying that it's not a myth, but reality.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/12/2004 @ 10:36:07 AM
wait, jeremy posted stats that say since moss has been hurt, the Vikings offensive production has fallen to about 15th in the league, and apparently that's supposed to be a positive thing? The Vikings' rushing yards per game is only slightly higher since moss has gotten hurt as the rest of the season, right around 130 yards per game in the last 3 games. The running game hasn't really gone anywhere. It's still good (statistically better than the Packers), but it hasn't done anything special since Moss' injury. Also, the Packers and Vikings have identical offensive balance. Each team has passing to rushing at 70%-30%. The Vikings have 61 more rushing yards than the Packers and like 110 yards more passing than the Packers; because these numbers a pretty close, I'd say this ratio is a pretty good comparison.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/12/2004 @ 11:25:49 AM
If your worst games without your best player are still better than most of the league I'll call that a positive.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Cory - 44 Posts 11/12/2004 @ 11:51:12 PM
(Note: Considering the importance of Sunday's Minnesota-Green Bay game, it's either tough luck or unfair scheduling that the Packers are coming off a bye week, giving them two weeks to prepare for this game, while the Vikings must travel to Green Bay after playing in Indianapolis on Monday night. Not an easy task for Minnesota.) this is part of this article by troy aikman: http://nfl.com/news/story/7871980		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/13/2004 @ 04:12:02 PM
That's a touchdown!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/13/2004 @ 04:17:42 PM
Well he wasn't holding the ball with his right arm or feet, so it had to be in the arm that clearly broke the plane. For the Badgers this seems to be like one of those games where like if you're playing a video game and the computer just decides you are not winning, I mean the was a 5 down goalline stand. That play the spartans scored on? Come on! Blocked punt TD?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 11/13/2004 @ 05:28:20 PM
blah!!! This game blows. I've stuck up for Stocco all year when people said he sucked, I said he'll be alright, he'll get better, he's got good receivers to throw to. I guess I was wrong, at least on half of that. I still think they have decent receivers, but apparantly the only guy Stocco will even consider throwing to is Daniels. This has been one of the worst QB performances ever. Suck, suck, and suck some more. What is he, like 0-10 on 3rd and 5's all game? And what happened to the defense? Oh, great another score. Since no one has respected Wisconsin all season, they'll be lucky to stay in the top 15. Yes, Michigan State has definitely pressed the "beast button". That's what my friends and I call it when the computer decides to screw you every which way possible.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/13/2004 @ 06:10:59 PM
Did anyone notice what a rip off the Spartains fight song is of "On Wisconsin"?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/13/2004 @ 09:32:38 PM
jets, atlanta, cleveland, jacksonville, tennessee, indy, St. Louis, New Orleans, Washington, Giants, san francisco, Green Bay, New England, Dallas		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 11/14/2004 @ 09:44:44 AM
On reference to the Vikings short week and the Packers extra long one- "Only four teams in NFL history have faced the Vikings particular circumstances consecutive Monday and Sunday games on the road, the second against a team coming off its bye and, surprisingly, three of the four have won. Maybe thats a statistical anomaly, or maybe the edge should go to the Vikings." So there.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 11/14/2004 @ 11:21:53 AM
Screw football, I just bought Halo 2 AND a new graphics card!!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman 11/14/2004 @ 01:09:10 PM
If only those 2 went together.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/14/2004 @ 03:19:17 PM
let the unnecessary trashtalking begin. vikings are goin' down.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/14/2004 @ 03:44:32 PM
force out boy i bet that call gives viking fans nightmares		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - I believe virtually everything I read. 11/14/2004 @ 03:53:52 PM
Almost as much bullshit as the cardinals one.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Pie Racist 11/14/2004 @ 04:09:32 PM
It isn't at all clear who the refs are pulling for in the one. For the record anytime a reciever has contact made with the it's a pushout, which means every sideline catch is a catch. and al harris can rape wideouts.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings 11/14/2004 @ 05:24:02 PM
that ball spot was almost a carbon copy of the badger game yesterday, should have been a first down, that's crap. the fb's waist was where they spotted the ball, so logically, it is not possible for the ball to be as far back as they spotted it.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/14/2004 @ 05:25:47 PM
YES, spot justice		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist 11/14/2004 @ 05:29:18 PM
Yeah, they only owe the Vikes about 50 calls, so give the one ref call we get right back. GB's DBs have been all over the Vikings all night. The Vikes touch the WR and it's a penalty. This is getting obsurd, and if you think I'm just whining your green tinted glasses are a little too opaque.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Resident Tech Support 11/14/2004 @ 05:32:30 PM
oh trust me, i can't even see out of my green tinted glasses=)		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/14/2004 @ 05:47:05 PM
it's ok, Javon walker isn't a good receiver		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/14/2004 @ 06:34:50 PM
How many times are the refs going to fuck us in Green BAY?!?!??! We jumped on it, we came off the pile with it, we won the game.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/14/2004 @ 06:37:40 PM
How many god damn breaks can a team get?!?1		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!? 11/14/2004 @ 06:39:17 PM
BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT!!!! How many game winning plays are you going to have handed right back to you this year?! Luckiest team in the history of the world.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/14/2004 @ 06:39:57 PM
hehe		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 11/14/2004 @ 06:41:34 PM
Go to hell. You guys dont deserve this shit.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!? 11/14/2004 @ 06:44:31 PM
How do the refs hand you the game every year? Game winning INT two years ago. PI. Fumble recovery this year. Your ball.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/14/2004 @ 07:26:53 PM
i'm not sure it merits that I, or anyone goes to hell.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Robots don't say 'ye' 11/14/2004 @ 10:42:45 PM
Well there apparently is no God or justice in the world, so I doubt there's a hell anyway.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4605 Posts 11/15/2004 @ 08:33:44 AM
Tee Hee From The Daily Quickie--- Two Words For You: SAME. OLD. Some weeks, the NFL's precious parity comes across as simply "same old, same old": Like a Packers' midseason rally ... Like a Vikings midseason collapse ... Like the Ravens. D winning games ... Like Ben Roethlisberger winning, period ... Like the Steelers and Browns hating each other ... Like Redskins fans hating their team ... Like Emmitt or the Bus or Favre racking up TDs ... Like a Bears or Bills end-zone allergy ... Like a New York QB controversy ... Like the Pats quietly cruising ...		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/15/2004 @ 02:27:48 PM
man, I'm 7-6 this week, with a couple of doozies for picks. What ever made me think to pick Cleveland of Pittsburgh, and why the crap did I pick Dallas to beat Philly? Oh yeah, it's cuz I'm crazy. Maybe I was thinking "Dallas has lost a lot this season, and Bill Parcells is getting pissed, maybe they'll start doing better now. Afterall, they can't lose forever." I hope it works, it is a home game for Dallas. If I win, I take sole possesion of first place in the "extended" page3 pick'em pool, or at least I will tell myself that. I am 83-60 at this point.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/15/2004 @ 08:27:15 PM
Name one other time besides last year the Vikings had a midseason "collapse".		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it. 11/15/2004 @ 09:20:04 PM
in 1997, the vikings were 8-2 after 11 weeks, and then finished the season 9-7, just cuz you were wondering		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/15/2004 @ 10:48:16 PM
Ok, so for the record "same old" means twice in 6 years.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?" 11/15/2004 @ 11:24:53 PM
I finally catch Jon and Sarah pulls away.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/15/2004 @ 11:39:10 PM
I finished 7-7 this week, 83-61 overall		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 11/15/2004 @ 11:55:06 PM
Dorsey Levens for MVP! Why did McNabb have to throw 3 of his 4 TD passes to Owens? That seems a bit unfair, bizzle was already having a good week.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9475 Posts 11/16/2004 @ 07:18:50 AM
Feel free to update those fantasy points Sarah, Matt, or Jon.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - 3619 Posts 11/16/2004 @ 08:21:20 AM
What a game last night! TO and Witten rise to the occasion and bizzle jumps into the lead. I'm pretty sure Manning and TO have accounted for half of my total points.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	icbeast - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated 11/16/2004 @ 08:23:09 AM
I was close, 40.7%.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 11/16/2004 @ 05:04:24 PM
Power Rankings Quote- "The Packers on top of the NFC North just seems right (although it would seem even more right if it was the NFC Central.) Amen to that.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 11/16/2004 @ 05:16:18 PM
weird, I was this close to copy and pasting that into the comment box too.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.