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| Colts 24 @ Patriots 27 Thu, 9/9/04 12:00am ESPN
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| Titans 17 @ Dolphins 7 Sat, 9/11/04 12:00pm CBS
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| Cardinals 10 @ Rams 17 Sun, 9/12/04 12:00pm FOX
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| Lions 20 @ Bears 16 Sun, 9/12/04 12:00pm FOX
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| Seahawks 21 @ Saints 7 Sun, 9/12/04 12:00pm FOX
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| Bengals 24 @ Jets 31 Sun, 9/12/04 12:00pm CBS
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| Giants 17 @ Eagles 31 Sun, 9/12/04 3:15pm FOX
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| Falcons 21 @ 49ers 19 Sun, 9/12/04 3:15pm FOX
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| Cowboys 17 @ Vikings 35 Sun, 9/12/04 3:15pm FOX
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| Chiefs 24 @ Broncos 34 Sun, 9/12/04 7:30pm ESPN
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| Packers 24 @ Panthers 14 Mon, 9/13/04 8:00pm ABC
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| Week Record | 11 - 5 0.688  | 10 - 6 0.625  | 8 - 8 0.500 | 10 - 6 0.625 | ||||
| Season Record | 11 - 5 0.688 | 10 - 6 0.625 | 8 - 8 0.500 | 10 - 6 0.625 | ||||
| Lifetime Record | 344 - 205 - 1 0.625 | 302 - 247 - 1 0.549 | 324 - 225 - 1 0.589 | 332 - 217 - 1 0.604 |
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| Week: | 6 - 10 0.375 |
| Season: | 6 - 10 0.375 |
| Lifetime: | 331 - 218 - 1 0.602 |
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Cowboys 17 @ Vikings 35
Jeremy: The Vikings OWN the cowboys. Remember Thanksgiving '98? Or the slaughtering in the playoffs a couple years back? Good times. The Cowboys passed on Moss…twice…and he always makes them pay for it. Moss starts his MVP bid this week.Matt: Amazingly, neither team has retired Herschel Walker's number yet. Hopefully this oversight will be rectified soon. Look for Justin Morneau to have a big game. Minnesota 46 - Dallas 12
Jon: Ok seriously, I think there is a really good chance of the Vikings making the Super Bowl and Daunte Culpepper being the MVP of the reglular season.
Sarah: Aargh, how do I even decide who to root against in this game? They are both awful awful teams, who have not always been kind to my boys in Green Bay. Statistically, I have to make sure Dallas wins, but it's looking doubtful. Dang it. Dog it. D'oh. Two evils in one dome, things could get ugly. Very ugly. On a side note, isn't everyone excited to read our comments and look at our picks? I know I am. The first week is always a crap shoot because you don't really have a handle on how teams are really going to do. It's always a surprise.
Chiefs 24 @ Broncos 34
Jeremy: Will Denver miss Portis? Who got the better end of that deal? Will KC’s D still suck? How is it week one and I have nothing to say? Remember the Randy Moss no look lateral to Moe, hands down the best play of the year, and it wasn’t even nominated for the ESPY.Matt: I think Priest Holmes and the Chiefs will disappoint this year, starting with this game. Denver 21 - Kansas City 18
Jon: Denver is usually pretty good at home I think, but K.C. will probably score about five hundred points and I thnk the Denver O has only about four hundred in them.
Sarah: Do I care? Not so much. However, I think Denver will not have a caliber year. Jake the Snake? Again? Boring. Champ Bailey? Whoop te do. Will Kansas City have another 13-3 season and then blow it in the playoffs? Will Dick Vermeil cry? These questions and many more will be answered in the weeks to come.
Packers 24 @ Panthers 14
Jeremy: I still fail to see how people can refer to the Packers as a Super Bowl team. They backed into the playoffs unlike any other team has, then lost their starting CB (cause it seems Green Bay isn’t the Utopia “That every player wants to play in” everyone makes it out to be.) and traded up to draft a punter only to keep two on the roster, and then handed a huge hunk of their remaining cap to a guy that doesn’t even make the roster. The only thing anyone ever sites as a reason is the fact that they returned all their starters on offense. Well there are lot of teams (the Vikes for one) who improved their team. If Favre or Ahman go down so do the Pack. The Vikes receiving corps are better without Moss than the Packers’, I mean really does the Driver-Ferguson 1-2 punch scare anyone?Matt: Have I mentioned that football sucks yet? Anyway, the Packers will be lucky if they break .500 this year. Carolina 34 - Green Bay 17
Jon: Is this one on Monday night? Green bay versus Carolina. Carolina.
Sarah: MNF!!!! It couldn't get any better than this game. This is the game that should've been the NFC Championship last year. Damn the numbers 4th and 26. How horrible. It still hurts ALOT. This season we have to bounce back and just reach higher ground. NFC Championship anyone? Super Bowl anyone? Yezza. I'm so giddy. Are the Panthers a one hit wonder? Is Jake Delhomme? I hope so. Remember the '96 NFC Championship? Those were good times. Lets get some more good times before #4 retires. GO PACK GO!
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| I got heart palpatations setting this up. I'm so excited. |
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 | Sarah 09/08/2004 @ 10:02:23 AM |
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| Let's get this show on the road! |
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| Matt - 1482 Posts 09/08/2004 @ 10:34:28 PM |
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| Not only did Jeremy rig last year's results, he rigged the previous year's as well. He also rigged the Page 3 Fantasy Football Draft this year, and I suspect the fix is already in on this years NFL picks. |
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| icbizzle - 2098 Posts 09/08/2004 @ 11:28:26 PM |
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Indy, Buff, Chicago, Balt, San Diego, Tenn, NO, Jets, Oaktown, Zona, TB, Dallas, Philly, SF, KC, and Green Bay "The Vikes receiving corps are better without Moss than the Packers". That's complete bull honkey. Who's ever heard of Nate Burleson and Keenan Howry, who are listed as 3rd and 4th on the depth chart? Big ups to M-Rob, but he hasn't been able to stay healthy for 3 years. Fact is JWalker is primed for a break out season, much like Driver had 2 years ago. And so Driver-Ferguson doesn't in fact scare anyone, but Walker-Driver-Ferguson will be giving defensive coordinaters nightmares by mid-season (and I don't mean the Packers' defensive coordinaters). I will agree that if Farve or Green go down, the Pack are screwed, but what if Culpepper or Moss go down? The Vikings CHOKED even with those guys playing last year. And don't even try and tell me Frerotte is the schiznizzle, cause not even Phil Ivey could pull off that bluff. No HR's for Bonds tonight, and Ichiro is 0-3. How out of his mind is Santana? Did any see Hudson walk the bases loaded to start the game tonight? Don't forget to pick up Shaq's new cd so you can rap along and player hate on Kobe too! Has anyone even seen a can crusher at Menards? I couldn't find one. I would've asked an employee but I didn't see any cute women. I didn't see one at Fleet Farm either. How come all Fleet Farms (Farm & Fleet, same diff) have that same funky smell? And to end on some sad news, the Brewer-Pirates game today was rained out. The sad part? They aren't going to reschedule it because it doesn't even matter, anyone one can see, it doesn't even matter, to me, to me, to me. |
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| Jeremy - The cake is a lie!! 09/08/2004 @ 11:40:12 PM |
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Yeah Gus had some really bad games last year.... Keenen Howry is 5th Kelly Cambell is 4th. Kelly had the most 40+ yard plays in the NFL last year (He had a 50 yard and 80 yard in the pre-season). Burleson is poised for a huge breakout and, if healthy, Robinson beats out Driver. You entire reciving corps combined did worse than randy did last year (and don't give me the "we spread the ball around" bs because EVERY team spreads the ball around.) So to summerize: Moss > (Driver + Walker + Ferguson) M Rob > Driver Burleson = Walker (We'll have to see how this plays out as both are just guys with "big upside" at this point.) Campbell >> Ferguson |
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| Scott - 2883 Posts 09/09/2004 @ 12:44:01 AM |
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| oh glorious day. It's NFL pick season |
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| Scott - 2883 Posts 09/09/2004 @ 12:45:43 AM |
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| and that's blinding logic |
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| Scott - 2883 Posts 09/09/2004 @ 12:59:15 AM |
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| Does the driver-ferguson 1-2 punch scare anyone? No, because they aren't the 1-2 punch. Walker will probably emerge as the number 1 receiver as early as week 2 or 3. But who cares if they scare anyone. They could be the best kept secret, and sneak up on unsuspecting teams, which will happen. And seriously, the Packers did have the 4th best offense in the league last year, and they are returning. I don't understand why that isn't a good point to bring up. Oh yeah, it's cuz they're aren't the Vikings. And explain to me what how the entire packers receiving corps did worse than moss last year. Moss is awesome, don't get me wrong, but that statement makes no sense other than the fact the he scored more TD's than the the top 3 packer receivers. But in your attempts to discredit the packers of all their talent, you have very much credited Favre with very very much. IF the packers receivers are so bad, how did this QB who usually "hurts his team" lead the NFL in touchdown passes last year? (enter "interceptions" comment here) What's the point in just ripping the team to shreds. |
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| I am the schizzle, and I plan to actually watch a lot of football this year considering I have this amount of homework to do: 0. |
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| Bretx0r uses Mozilla (Guest) 09/09/2004 @ 01:01:57 AM |
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| Shizzit, I forgot to add, how easy is it for Jeremy to paste in times of games along with the picks and what days the teams are playing? If its difficult, where do you guys go for an easy reference? What would be even cooler is if we could get whether or not the game will be televised, and what station. |
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| Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children. 09/09/2004 @ 07:39:25 AM |
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The Chiefs returned thier defense too, that doesn't make them good. Returning the 4th best O can't be bad, but my point was it's not like you automatically get that place again. Favre makes the recievers what they are, why do you think every reciever who leaves Green Bay has a horrible career, or at least a huge drop off after leaving? And you're right your top 3 guys did out catch and out yardage moss...by about 10 catches and 200 yards. Of course he had 2 more TD's but you do win games based on yards now right? :) |
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| Scott - Prince Fielder, the largest vegetarian since Stegosaurus 09/09/2004 @ 11:04:20 AM |
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ummm, I believe I heard Mike Sherman call dibs on the 4th spot again this year. And i found it interesting that you actually gave Favre a shred of credit.....and the Packers have never had good receivers under the Favre era (with 2 exception of Robert Brooks and Sterling Sharpe, who both had a couple 100 catch seasons). I just needed to state that Moss did not quite match the Packers top 3 receivers completely, he only almost did (note the sarcasm that I am comparing 3 receivers to one, I mean seriously, moss is good.) Can they handle the pressure? The Vikings have been picked to win the North by 12 of the 15 ESPN guys here . The Packers were picked twice and someone actually picked the Lions. 1 guy actually picked the Vikings to go to the Super Bowl (some also picked the Packers). Will they rise up to their standings, or will they choke (the Vikings that is). History might give you a hint |
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| Scott - 2883 Posts 09/09/2004 @ 11:06:23 AM |
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| I too like the idea of maybe putting up a reference to some site that shows game times. and stuff |
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| Sarah 09/09/2004 @ 05:17:38 PM |
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| It's kind of hard to do that. U just have to know that NFC games are on FOX except when the NFC team is hosting an AFC team, then it's on CBS. It's the opposite for AFC games on CBS. (they're on FOX when they are hosting an NFC team) Just watch commercials or go online and figure it out urself. :) GO PACK! |
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| Jeremy - 5109 Posts 09/09/2004 @ 05:20:03 PM |
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When I bash Favre I bash Favre "The Media God of all creation" not Favre the player, who is good and a sure fire hall of famer. I bash the fact that he NEVER gets bashed by anyone. Every mistake he makes was/is someone elses fault. If Daunte single handedly ended the vikings season like 5 years running I would expect the blame to fall on him. Entering game times and channels would be a pain in the ass relative to where you are anyway. Most games are at noon and theres a rhyme and reason to what channels they're on. The games are listed in order they happen. The last game is always the monday night game and if there is a sunday night it's second to last. |
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| Jeremy - Broadcast in stunning 1080i 09/09/2004 @ 05:29:21 PM |
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Speaking of which here's a question. Would you rather have Superbowl this year then no Favre or Favre and no bowl. |
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| icbizzle - 2098 Posts 09/09/2004 @ 06:04:14 PM |
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The fact that Moss is awesome has nothing to do with whether or not the rest of the Viking's WRs are better than all the Packer's WR. In fact I award u 0 points for that logic. If you want to know what time the games are, ESPN has them listed with the channel. Superbowl over Farve, though I don't see how that's possible. |
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| Jeremy - Pie Racist 09/09/2004 @ 06:47:42 PM |
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What "logic"???
The only thing I was wrong about is that it's unfair to say Burleson = Walker do to their equal potential. So, until after this season, we'll say Burleson |
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| icbeast - 2098 Posts 09/09/2004 @ 11:02:24 PM |
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| I guess you're right if you're going by career statistics. Although Robinson has never played a single regular season snap for the Vikings, but whatever. I'll bet you a beer that at the end of the year, you can add up those stats again and the Packers' trio will come out on top. |
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| Scott - 2883 Posts 09/09/2004 @ 11:24:02 PM |
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| You fail to realize, or at least fail to mention, that Ahman Green was the teams 2nd leading receiver last year with 50 receptions. So if you're going to compare receivers, you have to count Green in there. I didn't realize that moe williams had so many receptions. Why are we still talking about this? |
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| Scott - 2883 Posts 09/09/2004 @ 11:34:09 PM |
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Comparing Favre and Culpepper's 4th year of being the starter........Favre 38 TD's 14 int, 4413 yards, pass rating 99.5, MVP........Culpepper 25 td's, 11 ints, 3479 yards, pass rating 96.4.....just interesting I'd like to know what games Favre single handedly lost in the playoffs? The only one that comes to mind is the St. Louis game in 2001 when he threw 6 ints. If the packers blow a 4th and 26 is that Favre's fault? To answer the earlier question, there is no bowl this year without Favre. |
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| Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet 09/09/2004 @ 11:54:30 PM |
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Favre's rocket launch pass ended that game. If I'm not misten there was another Ramesq playoff appearence, or game that kept you out of the playoffs. 5 was an exageration. The question wasnt can the pack win the bowl without favre. Lets say favre would play 2-4 more years unless he wins the super bowl this year it which case he goes out on top. Would you want the bowl or a few more years of brett? I just bought a ticket to the Cowboy game and I'm pumped! I was kind of bummed that my 2 bros, dad, and uncle were going which meant I had to miss opening day, but then the cowboys returned 400/500 tickets. Just a few years ago we were offered like $200 a peice for our tickets for a cowboy game, now it appears the wheels have come off the bandwagon. Luckily those people still have the Lakers and Yankees to fall back on. |
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| Scott - 2883 Posts 09/10/2004 @ 10:20:07 AM |
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Favre didn't lose the eagles game last year. What was the other Ramesq game of which you speak. |
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| scott - 2883 Posts 09/10/2004 @ 10:22:58 AM |
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| If the Packers one a Super Bowl this year and Favre left on top, I would be thrilled. The key is though, I don't think the Packers could win in their current system with their current players without Favre. |
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| Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet 09/10/2004 @ 01:01:31 PM |
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| Maybe if we were talking about running backs I would put him in there...but we weren't. My point was that we aren't as screwed as people think if we lose Moss. I justified my point using the example that our corps without Moss is better than yours. No one believed me so I proved it and suddenly it's a non issue...just interesting. |
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| Scott - 2883 Posts 09/10/2004 @ 02:48:30 PM |
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| I don't necessarily think the Vikings are that screwed without moss, but when a team loses it's number 1 guy, in any situation, it puts the other players in a much different role. If Moss gets hurt or something, the defense won't have to worry about him anymore and can play a more balanced defense. A guy like Moss can raise the stats of other players around him. I think anyway. |
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| Scott - Prince Fielder, the largest vegetarian since Stegosaurus 09/10/2004 @ 02:49:34 PM |
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| this is getting political=) |
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| Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 09/10/2004 @ 03:01:42 PM |
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one thing that does some is that robinson hasn't played with the vikings yet. Driver has averaged over 100 more yards per season than robinson. Without Moss, the groups are even at best, with the advantage going to the Packers. Those stats are misleading. But who cares. if you compare the guys according to experience.......Driver has the edge over robinson according to "per year averages".......Campbell has an edge over ferguson.......and Walker has an edge over Burleson. |
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| Scott - Resident Tech Support 09/10/2004 @ 05:48:24 PM |
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| Ok, i figured something wrong, Driver and robinson are probably equals |
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| Scott - Resident Tech Support 09/10/2004 @ 05:58:17 PM |
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AND!!!!!!!!!! in the last 2 years Driver has averaged 61 catches and 800 yards, while robinson has averaged 26 catches and 347 yards in the same number of games. What happened there? and, not counting their first years (they each only played 5 and 3 games), driver has averaged 543 yards and 39 catches, while robinson averaged 517 yards, 35 catches. Where is the edge now? Robinson does have more touchdowns, but every other category belongs to driver. (when comparing these 2) |
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| icbeast - Refactor Mercilessly 09/10/2004 @ 06:15:40 PM |
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This: "If Moss gets hurt or something, the defense won't have to worry about him anymore and can play a more balanced defense. A guy like Moss can raise the stats of other players around him." is very true. Don't you think that at least part of the reason Campbell lead the league in 40+ yard plays last year was that Moss was probably occupying the best CB and S and maybe a LB underneath so Campbell was left to be covered one on one by a not so great defensive player? I'm not saying he sucks and he's obviously got some wheels but still. I was about to comment on this: "Luckily those people still have the Lakers and Yankees to fall back on." but then I wasn't sure if you're just foolish or I detected a hint of sarcasm. |
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| icbeast - I will possess your heart 09/10/2004 @ 10:39:32 PM |
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| It's time for OT!!!! |
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| Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman 09/10/2004 @ 11:48:09 PM |
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I wont be surprised if Walker is your #1 by the end of the year, if nothing else then because Driver (who I like) has to be one of the worst #1's in the league. Granted the Colts have a good offense, but do you think the Pat's are worried about their D? I mean if the Colts don't blow 3 red zone chances and a FG this could have been a blowout. Yes your top 3 will probobly pass our 2-4 (which isn't really something you wanna bet on :) ) because its hard to get the ball to 4 people |
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| Jeremy - 5109 Posts 09/10/2004 @ 11:57:14 PM |
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Obviously Campbell is helped by moss but he would still just have the nickleback/safety on him without moss. You can't tell me that Robinson's stats don't matter because he hasn't played for the Vikings and then argue the 2 previous Viking's stats don't matter because they did. And yes Scott if you pick out one guys best seasons and another guys worst that is a fair comparison. ;) ps that other comment i just wrote was written last night, I dont know why it didnt get posted. |
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| icbeast - Talk to me Goose 09/11/2004 @ 12:30:38 AM |
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| Miami pulled off the win. Good game. Rix is the first college QB to lose to the same team 5 times. Many of those he could blame on the kicker, but he pretty much sucked tonight. Also, Miami's play calling was excellent down the stretch. That ABC coverage team is annoying though. Musberger, Arute, and someother dweeb. I'm pretty sure that Musberger had about four different comments for the entire second half of the game and he just kept repeatin | ||
Colts 24 @ Patriots 27
Jeremy: Oh me oh my. New England lost a couple preseason games by like 30ish point margins. Preseason doesn't mean anything, but that can't be a good thing.Matt: Football sucks. Indy wins 24 - 14
Jon: The Edge is back! Upset in week one.
Sarah: The official start of the season, and it's about time! New England is even stronger and scarier this year, so even though the Colts will certainly not be a bad team, they aren't going to win this game. Let's see what Corey Dillion does with his new team, he should have a good year. Plus, Tom Brady is still hot, so gotta go with him.