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Chiefs 40 @ Packers 34
JeremyYou have to go with the hot team but I think I'm the only person in america who doesnt think KC is all that great. Holmes is amazing, no question. But 100 passing yards a game wont win if someone holds Holmes to even a mediocre day. They would be 3-2 if some special teams coach just punted out of bounds or kicked off away from Daunte Hall. If the Packers punt to him once their Special Teams coach should be fired. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the Packers take this, but since the Vikes have the bye I'll be on the KC wagon for a week.
MattI have a feeling that Kansas City's luck will run out soon, and there is a good chance it will be this week. But I'm still going to go with them. Kansas City 35 - Green Bay 17
P.S. Anyone who still thinks this is Favre's team, not Ahman Green's is kidding him or herself. Emotionally he may still be the "leader", but if I was a Packer fan and had to choose between Favre and Green missing an extended period of time, Green is the one I would want on the football field week after week.
SarahI am thinking Green Bay will break the Chiefs. We'll just keep the ball away from Dante Hall, and they won't be able to score. Ya know, Ahman Green has missed many games from injury, and we have been able to rotate people in just fine. I'm not sure what our record is while he's out, but it can't be that bad. We really have never seen a game where Favre hasn't played because he holds the most prestigious record there is. There was that whole LaVar Arrington mishap last year, but we were doing so well in the game it didn't matter. Pederson did ok filling in. KC 14 GB 34
49ers 19 @ Seahawks 20
JeremyT.O. is a bigger cancer to his team than anyone in sports right now. Isn't he? I mean during the clinic Randy Moss put on opposite him a couple weeks ago TO stopped just this side of laying on the ground kicking, screaming, and crying. Before telling the world how he was perfect and all his teammates had no heart. Nice.
MattThe first thing Arnold should do as Governor of California, is threaten to kick the crap out of Terrell Owens if he doesn't shut his mouth. Seattle 4 - San Francisco 2
SarahThe battle on the West Side. Or er coast. Seattle should rebound nicely from their loss at the GB (I was the only one who picked GB last week thank you very much!) San Fran is ailing in more ways than one. Garcia's back may not hold out for much longer and TO may throw a hissy fit at any moment. Dennis Erickson returns to Seattle, but does anyone even take notice of that fact? I thought not.
Falcons 0 @ Rams 36
JeremyAfter the Vikings got done doing whatever they wanted to the now 1-4 Falcons QB Doug Johnson said that the Falcons are better than, and therefor should have beat, the Vikings. The Vikings are 5-0 and beat thier team 39 - 26 after they could only muster 6 points late in the 2nd half. The Vikings have the second best offense (just 2 yards behind the #1 Cowboys) Atlanta has the 27th ranked offense and the WORST defense in the NFL right now. Whatever you say Doug.
MattWhat's the deal with bye weeks anyway? Players have only 16 regular season games a year and they play only 1 game per week, and they still need to have a week off? What a bunch of babies. In baseball you play 162 games in 6 months, playing 5, 6, sometimes even 7 days a week. Very rarely would you even have 2 days in a row where your team wouldn't play a game. Those are some real men.
SarahThe Clash of the Titans. Or the battling of the Rams I mean. :) Atlanta can't do anything until Vick returns, and St. Louis can do anything until Warner returns. This will make for a semi boring MNF game, but in comparision to last week's anything is.
Side note: a good pregame to watch will be TB at Washington. I hope Sapp does run through the Redskins warm ups, gets beaten up and ejected from the game AND gives his teammates an automatic 15 yard penalty on the kick off. LaVar Arrington had a right to make those commments, because what sapp the ass does is intolerable, he shouldn't be prancing around like a sissy in front of the opposing team while they're warming up. Why does he get to do that?!?! Well, no more!
|No Jon? Green out? What's going on, is Green really out for this game? That's crazy. If he is I think things still might be ok. Tony fisher is decent. The chiefs have the 24th best rush defense in the league, but then the packers are 21st. Anyway, I don't like what might happen with the kicking situation. Kicking AWAY from Dante Hall is a must, but I've heard rumors that kicking the ball out of bounds is more worth it. I remember when the Packers played the Rams 2 years ago in the Playoffs.....to try and beat the "unstoppable" offense the Packers changed their game plan, brought 7 DB's out to try and stop the pass, and Faulk ran over them. I don't like the idea of changing their gameplan for one player. He is definitely good and worth respect, but 5 straight times with a return is crazy. I say pitch to Bonds.....oh wait, wrong sport.|
|Jeremy - 8953 Posts|
|Green isnt out; I think Sarah was referring to Matt's comment. It's not even a matter of Green being out. Do you think the Packers would even have a win without Green and Franks for the season so far, without Farve for half the season so far and without Javon Walker or Robert Ferguson AND with Donald Driver nursing a back that has been bothering him all year? Because I don't think they would have any points given that situation let alone wins. The Vikes are 5-0 with all the analogous players hurt.|
|Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear|
|PS Jon did his picks but said he didnt feel like commenting right then and that he would do them later that (wednesday) night.|
|Matt - 3354 Posts|
Sarah, what did I tell you about that language?
P.S. Brett Favre has hit 756 Home Runs???
|Jeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?"|
|No no, the most prestigious record there is is apparently most games started in a row despite the fact that you really are hurt for some of them and are really just hurting your team more than anything else.|
|Scott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!|
Well, seeing as Favre is the winningest QB of the 90s, I think that he has more than helped, not hurt his team. He has taken his team to the playoffs in 8 of his 11 seasons in Green (only the 49ers have been to the playoffs more during that time, but with more than 1 QB). And he has the 3rd highest winning percentage since the merger (amongst QB's with 100 starts.) This by the way includes those season which he apparently was hurting his team.
ps(my source is Sporting News.)
|Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children.|
|Well I didn't mean there were seasons at a time where he should have sat out, but he HAS been injured and for whatever reason he played anyway when it would have been best for the team to sit out that game or two.|
|Scott - 6225 Posts|
|I'm not sure what the most prestigious record is. Is it Hanks, or Ripkens, or DiMaggio's, I'm not sure if I would put Favre's on this list. If a record like Emmit Smith breaking Payton's record gets little more than a "good job" on most news stations, I don't think any football milestone can be considered in this list....but that's up for debate. Favre is definitely the ironman of football. If you want to debate that go right ahead, I'd be curious to find examples that would refute this. (no, I don't think McNabb's broken ankle game counts)|
|Sarah - 4091 Posts|
I think the reason why Emmitt Smith breaking Walter Peyton's record is because it took him so long and by then he wasn't even good. It was just persistance. Barry Sanders would've broken the record 5 years ago in only like 10 seasons, something that seems almost unimaginable. Emmitt got the record by coincidence, if you're in the league that long, then some things are going to be broken.
Favre's record is pretty incredible. A lot of people get injured every Sunday in every game. The fact that he's been playing for so long and been able to stay in the game is pretty good. I will admit, sometimes he should've been taken out of some games we were losing, but he stayed in them and endured the pain. I think his 180 (?) game streak is comparable to baseball's cal ripken's record. It's actually above and beyond ripken's record. Baseball isn't exactly a contact sport (although some of the players run into each other every once in awhile, but that's accidental, in football you're suppose to run into people on every play.) And then, Ripken ended his streak by taking a day off. That's why baseball players don't get the record, they don't play every game because they need some time off from the strenuous journey that is baseball. Right.
Another point is that Favre is most proud of this record, and if he's happy, then by gone it i'm happy too. Happy Belated Birthday Favre!
|Jon - many posts|
"Emmitt got the record by coincidence, if you're in the league that long, then some things are going to be broken."
That's a quote by Sarah.
First of all, you were just arguing that Favre's record, which is a record of persistence and little else, was the greatest record ever. You can't have it both ways.
Second of all, the point of him getting it because he played so long shouldn't really take that much away from the accomplishment. Yes it would be more impressive if he did it in fewer years, but that's not really the point. When it comes right down to it, no one has gained that many yards. Period. You can say that others would have or could have or so and so...but they didn't. That's why the record is so impressive. If it were just a case of staying around (which is no small feat anyway) then everyone would stick around a long time and rack up a lot of yards. But most can't...in fact no one has. Sure Barry Sanders or Jim Brown could have MAYBE, but we don't know. And those are just two running backs out of all the running backs ever. Two of the greatest nonetheless. And that shows Emmitt's greatness and the greatness of the record.
|Scott - Resident Tech Support|
|Go Badgers!!! I'm starting to smell the Roses....|
|Sarah "i can't believe this is happening" B (Guest)|
|i don't feel like commenting on anything right now. A sure thing ruined by Ahman "the packers are his team now" Green. Unbelievable. I am heartbroken. Stupid boyfriend jinxed them again.|
|Jeremy - Robots don't say 'ye'|
|So Jon, you can write comments down here but couldn't write any regular comments?|
|scott - 6225 Posts|
|green didn't lose that game. The 17 point 4th quarter lost that game. That play by green never should have happened.|
|Sarah - How do you use these things?|
If i say green lost the game for us, then green lost the game for us. Ah I'm so traumatized right now, it's not even funny. I just don't understand how we could lose. We looked SOOO good, and then they came back, and then we got fired up and were winning again and then they tied and it was overtime and then we blocked their FG, then Green fumbled, then they threw a 51 yd TD. My head is reeling.
Jon- Favre's record and Emmitt's record are two different things. Favre's record is the whole point of lasting through tough stuff, while Emmitt's just happened because he decided to stay in the game long enough. And i don't know if that makes sense or not, but in my head it does and right now that's all i've got going for me.
|Sarah - How do you use these things?|
|Ah yes another thought occured. Favre has NEVER won against the Chiefs in regular season play. KC and the Texans are the only ones, and that's only because we've never played the texans before. sigh.|
|Jeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!?|
|You think Favre's record is different cause of those green tinted glasses you have on. =P|
|Sarah - 4091 Posts|
|I took off my green tinted glasses to wipe away my tears this afternoon and then i accidentally sat on them. oops|
|Scott - 6225 Posts|
|I have to agree with Jon a little bit about the comparison between the two records. While Emmet may not be the best running back ever, what he did is still remarkable. Favre's is a different kind of record. they are both longevity, but one is games and the other is yards. Does that make sense, (it sounds right in my head). If and when Favre breaks the TD or wins record (which would require about 3 or 4 more seasons) that would be more than comparible to any record in football. But whatever, I'm beating a dead horse. Both are impressive, and the debates will never end.|
|Jon - infinity + 1 posts|
Just to add a little bit...
My post was less about the fact that Favre's record is similar to Emmitt's and more about the fact that Emmitt's record IS a big deal.
The fact that he gained that many yards isn't because Emmitt just "kept playing," it's because he was good enough for such a long time that he was able to be in a position to break the record. As I stated before, only a couple guys could even say they were good enough to have a shot at the record. And just because a couple guys retired early shouldn't take away from Emmitt's record. Barry Sanders wasn't guaranteed any yards if he played any longer. Yeah chances are that he would've gained a lot of yards, but you can't say for sure, and it doesn't mean that Emmitt's yards came any easier.
I'll finish with a question: if the record were simply a matter of sticking around, then why don't more people just stick around and get the record?
|Matt - 3354 Posts|
|Don't you losers have anything better to do than post to a blog all day? Try sleeping instead, I enjoy it.|
|Matt - Washington Bureau Chief|
|Yes, I realize that these are comments to the picks, not the blog, but my point remains the same anyway.|
|Sarah - How do you use these things?|
|Alright I give up, I don't agree with you but I give up. Yea I think we need to find more stuff to do than commenting on picks for a whole day. :) One of my friends wants me to play hockey, that would be funny. But they only practice on Sunday nights so i'd miss simpsons or the sunday night game. Maybe some other time.|
|Scott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings|
|Hockey's great. I recommend it if you can find the time. I played for 17 years, it's awesome fun.|