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Colts 14 @ Patriots 24

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Jeremy
The Colts are hot right now. My Dad heard something interesting on a talk radio show the other day. Apparently a woman called in who was one of the people in charge of voting for the MVP. She said that often time when the voters get a sense that there will be a landslide winner, like Manning, people either wont vote or will give their vote to someone like McNair who didn't have as good a year, but deserved some recognition. Sometimes that backfires on everyone. She said the same thing happened in 97. Everyone thought Barry would win huge so no one voted for him. She gave her vote to Favre and has regretted it ever since because her late vote for Favre caused the tie. Apparently she is writing a book about how flawed the system is. Am I the only one that thinks it's odd that she is writing a book about how wrong a system is, when she openly admits to doing something she knows is the cause for making the system flawed...repeatedly?
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Peyton Manning is good. Colts 45 - Patriots 33
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I'll be honest, I want Indianapolis to win this one. But, New England is the pick here. Let's not forget that amid the offensive explosion by the Colts in KC, there was a defensive collapse. The Chiefs punted as many times as the Colts did; zero. And as if this weren't enough, the Patriots have been known to rise to the occasion defensively. That being said, the Colts were my pick until very recently and I'm feeling less confident about my Patriots pick with every word I type. But no matter how impressive the Colts have been lately and how close they were to winning the regular season matchup, and how well they played on the road this season, the Patriots haven't done anything to convince me to pick against them. I must say this is a terribly intriguing matchup. As is the NFC game. After last weekend's excitement, there isn't much room for improvement. However, I wouldn't be completely shocked if each of these games delivered.
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Yea, that's right. I'm going with two upset picks. This post season has proven that anyone can beat anyone at any given time. The Colts are lookin' good. They are a high scoring team. Their defense might've been a little shaky against Kansas City, but I think they'll pull it together when they face New England. Everyone should get on the Tony Dungy bandwagon, because that's where I'm heading. I still really am not in awe of Peyton Manning, although this post season I think he proved he should have been the one and only MVP of the season. Both of these games should be hard fought. I can't wait.....

Panthers 14 @ Eagles 3

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Philly is one of those teams that just inexplicably keeps winning. You would think a team who lost their offensive and defensive MVPs and werenít that good to begin with would be hurting. The Eagles showed last week that without their star running back they just wonít hand the ball off. That approach works when you play a terrible defense, Carolina is a great D. Thatís why Carolina wins.
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I hear that Philadelphia is giving a key to the city to Brett Favre. Panthers 24 - Eagles 21
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These two teams played not too long ago in Carolina. The Panthers lost, but had 3 missed fg's and one missed extra point. This matchup will be in Philly, but I think the Panthers are up to the challenge. What have the Panthers done so far in the playoffs? Picked apart the number one defense one week, then held off an overrated yet still above average offense. In terms of yards Philadelphia has neither an impressive offense nor defense. Ultimately, I like how Carolina matches up against Philly. The Eagles struggle against the run defensively and without Westbrook, they are less of a threat offensively (as well as on punt returns) A lot of it also really comes down to how they've played lately. Carolina seems to be on a roll and Philly barely edged Green Bay.
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Philly doesn't deserve to go the Super Bowl. They have gone to the NFC Championship for 3 years in a row and they just can't get past that hurdle. Carolina really surprised me at St. Louis and I am going to have to go with them. I'm still disgusted with the Philly coming back to beat the Pack on Sunday. It really just is hard to take. How long is this loss going to stay with me? I'm not sure. Last year's loss by the hands and legs of Vick really hurt, but we never had control of that game. This time we did and there were so many stupid decisions and plays this time that they are going to haunt me for a long time. I used to think the Eagles were ok, but then their columnists write about how uneducated and poor Packer fans are and than they beat us and ick, I just have no respect for them anymore. Besides Eagle fans and Viking fans, I think most of America wanted to see the Pack in the Super Bowl, and now it's just going to suck.
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01/15/2004 @ 01:08:00 PM
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Why did Jamal Lewis not get the vote for it this year then? That ladies admittance is fine, and maybe a little convicting, but Lewis had a better year than Sanders did in 97, and he didn't get squat. So in a year like this where there are co-MVP's and one of them is not the 2,000 yard rusher, this ladies confession does not necessarily point to the flawed system.
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - Washington Bureau Chief
01/15/2004 @ 01:41:09 PM
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The lady's admittance points to flawed voters, not a flawed system. As for reasons why Jamal Lewis didn't get the respect this year: 1. Nobody cares about the Baltimore Ravens. 2. Rushing in the NFL has become like the home run in baseball. Big seasons aren't as impressive anymore. When Sanders ran for 2000 yards in 1997, it was the first 2000-yard season since Eric Dickerson in 1984. Since 1997, Terrell Davis in 1998 and now Jamal Lewis in 2003 have had 2000-yard seasons, so I guess it just doesn't seem like big news anymore. Its like when Barry Bonds beat McGwire's home run record. It was a big accomplishment, but didn't get nearly the press of McGwire in 1998, because with McGwire you had a 37-year-old record broken and with Bonds you had a 3-year-old record broken. Those are just my thoughts anyway.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
01/15/2004 @ 04:10:09 PM
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Does anyone else laugh a lot when they hear the announcer for Around The Horn? I do, just wondering.
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - 3354 Posts
01/15/2004 @ 04:30:43 PM
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What are you? Some sort of simple-minded clown.........the hooooorrrrrrrn.
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01/15/2004 @ 05:07:10 PM
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Around the Horn makes me sick, literally. It's terrible. Voting for someone who you don't actually think should win is retarded. You have to be a moron or on crack to do such a thing. Brian Westbrook is the Eagles "star" running back? He had 613 out the teams 2015 rushing yards and 332 out of the teams 3273 receiving yards. That's not even a 1000 yards total.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist
01/15/2004 @ 05:27:16 PM
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When Ricky Williams broke the rushing record he was the greatest player ever and the story of the year, when Dayne broke it like the next day no one cared at all.

I think the bigger question is why any one outside of Qbs and the occasional Rb doesnt ever get any serious consideration. One argument against them is that they dont touch the ball enough, but if you think about it they are actually taking that into consideration in the wrong direction. For example Holmes had 27 TD's. That's amazing. However he also had 320 carries and 74 receptions. So that is a TD every 14.5 touches. Randy Moss had 17 TD's in 111 catches and had 6 carries, so thats a TD every 6.9 touches. Shouldn't that mean anything? You get the ball to a guy 7 times and he scores. That's more amazing to me.
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01/15/2004 @ 05:30:57 PM
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icbizzle - Week 18 - "First of all, I don't ever hope that players get hurt (unless I REALLY hate them (e.g. Sapp)). But the Eagles loss of Westbrook definitely increases the Packers odds of winning. He's their most explosive running back and a good kick returner. He's a good receiver too and has made a lot of big plays for them. They still have Duce and Buckhalter, but they lose a lot of potential for big plays without Westbrook."
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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
01/15/2004 @ 05:40:34 PM
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Here is something interesting. I am completely aware that you can't call back-to-back timeouts. However, when Sharper attempted to call a second timeout in OT of the Philly game, he got ignored by the official, as he should. However, a whistle did blow, and several Packers stood up a second or 2 before the snap. Should the play have been stopped? I mean, there was a whistle. Just a thought.
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
01/15/2004 @ 05:41:47 PM
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Also, I think more people cared than you think did about Dayne breaking the record.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
01/15/2004 @ 05:46:33 PM
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Javon Walker had a TD every 4.8 touches. Course he only had 41 catches. I don't think he qualifies.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - I believe virtually everything I read.
01/15/2004 @ 09:13:58 PM
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I think the Packers were confused and standing there before that happened. The whistle did blow and despite the fact that it would have been Green Bays 2nd or 3rd "bonus time out," that keeps them in the game, of the year the play should have been stopped. However it's the Packers players fault for not knowing the rules, it's unfortunate one ref blew the whistle I suspect out of sheer reaction.

I'm torn on how to feel about this because on one hand if the whistle blows thats it, how can you not stop the play regardless of the reason? (Although the refs excuse for jobbing the Seahawks on the Ahman Green fumble, that would have all but sealed it for Seattle, was that it didn't matter that he fumbled prior to the whistle blowing, players are supposed to have a "general understanding" of when plays are over)

On the other hand why should the Eagles essentially be penalized, perhaps ending thier season, because the Packers didn't know the rules, and be forced to do it again and having something go wrong.
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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
01/15/2004 @ 09:49:07 PM
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That's my main gripe with it and that's why I'm not really letting that play get to me too much. But a late whistle during the end of the play is different than a whistle before the play starts. Not like it matters now. I'm not worrying about it.
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jon.jpgJon - 2847 Posts
01/16/2004 @ 01:38:54 AM
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Icbizzle just got shown the business! Next time you best bring kryptonite.
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01/16/2004 @ 02:26:57 AM
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just a little joke
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01/18/2004 @ 03:50:55 AM
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Since everyone here is now in "wait for next year mode" I thought this could be some valuable information.

The Vikings will have the forth most money available to them under the cap next year. Only the Ravens ($24 million), the Eagles ($22.8 million) and the Saints ($22.6 million) have more. However, the Eagles and Ravens have some high-ticket players up for free agency that are critical starters. The only Vikings up for free agency that even saw the field as non-backups are Jimmy Kleinsasser and Fred Robbins.

Detroit has $14.6 million available. The Bears have $9 million and the Packers just $3.4 million.

The Titans are 16.4 million OVER the cap. (Sorry Tennessee)

The Packers free agents are P Josh Bidwell, OT Chad Clifton, S Antuan Edwards, WR Antonio Freeman, CB Michael Hawthorne, QB Doug Pederson, OT Marcus Spriggs, TE Wesley Walls.

Assuming they want to keep Bidwell and Clifton they are going to have to cut vetrans, whos minimum salary grows each year they are in the league, and replace them with young guys. So, in case you are wondering, you saw William Henderson, Doug Pederson and a few other key vetrans in a Packer uniform for the last time last Sunday.

I think your cap hit for Favre alone is like 10 mil. He'll restructure it but it's not like he's gonna play for free.

Don't worry though. Every year the Packers are at or above the cap and manage to sign anyone they want.

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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
01/18/2004 @ 12:32:34 PM
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Scott's Packer Expertise(yeah right)

Pederson and Henderson are most likely done. That's no surprise. Clifton probably will not be back. He is due to become one of the highest paid linemen in the league, and unless he takes less than what he is worth the Packers probably won't take him. If they do it would turn into the Joe Johnson situation where later down the road they would be feeling the effects of a very highly paid player. I actually wouldn't be surprised if they let Bidwell go too. He has been average at best the last couple of years. The Packers were hoping he would have a breakout season this year, and he didn't.

Oh, in today's Colts-Patriots game: Look for number 34 for the Colts, Jason Doering. He is from Rhinelander (my hometown), he played for the Badgers, and because of injuries he might be the first sub for the on of the safety possitions. Also, he is a regular on special teams.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
01/18/2004 @ 12:52:14 PM
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But even if they don't sign Clifton and Bidwell they still need a tackle and punter.

You guys have no where to go but down.
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
01/18/2004 @ 04:44:08 PM
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You wish=)
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scott.jpgScott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings
01/18/2004 @ 04:45:13 PM
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Actually, they are planning on moving Mark Taucher to Left Tackle and Kevin Barry into the right tackle position if they can't sign clifton. About the punter, Favre can do that too, right?
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sarah.jpgSarah - So's your face
01/18/2004 @ 05:09:14 PM
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The Packers do indeed have no where else to go but down. We have no room in the salary cap to retain key players. Ok, so the only key player in my mind is Clifton. Henderson is my favorite player but I know in my heart they won't keep him so I'm not even going to pretend. Bidwell will be gone because he didn't do anything spectacular and in fact didn't even do a great job at times. (Kicking into the endzone at the Eagles game???) Pederson has said that if they don't retain him as a QB that he would like to be a coach of sorts. I think the most important thing to do is to forget about this season and move on. We did just sign a punter before the season ended, maybe he can be our man. Let's hope the draft brings some good results.
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newalex.jpgicbizzle - I don't need to get steady I know just how I feel
01/18/2004 @ 06:48:22 PM
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not having money to sign free agents and having to let a few veterans go doesn't automatically mean the packers are screwed. i'm sure they have some young guys who were backups this year that will develop enough to replace anyone they can't resign. plus the draft, plus walker and ferguson have another year under there belts now. i'm not saying there probably going to be a lot better, but they only came up two games short this year.
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01/18/2004 @ 07:24:47 PM
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No you arent guaranteed to suck but it's going to be pretty hard to feild, at best, a team simmilar to the one this year plugging all those holes with people currently on the roster. Hence my no where to go but down comment.

It doesnt really matter if you resign Bidwell or not, you still need a punter.

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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
01/18/2004 @ 08:30:18 PM
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Ron Wolf admitted that not signing Craig Hentrich back when they had a chance to re-sign him was his biggest mistake as a GM with the Packers.
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matt.jpgMatt - Nutcan.com's MBL
01/18/2004 @ 09:01:51 PM
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Jeremy, you're disgracing Page 3 with your grammar/typing.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist
01/18/2004 @ 11:39:57 PM
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At least I add some content to page 3.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
01/19/2004 @ 11:27:05 AM
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Things heat up as rival Page 3 writers exchange blows. =)
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!?
01/19/2004 @ 01:11:40 PM
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Ha.
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - Nutcan.com's MBL
01/19/2004 @ 01:29:56 PM
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If you can call what you add "content".
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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
01/19/2004 @ 04:23:41 PM
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Philadelphia fans respond to the awful article in the Philly Daily News with much class here.
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jon.jpgJon - 2847 Posts
01/20/2004 @ 01:46:18 AM
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I think Jake Delhomme just won the Iowa caucus. Jamal Lewis received 5 votes.
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scott.jpgScott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings
01/21/2004 @ 12:39:20 PM
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Man, I don't know what I'm going to do when the season's over. I mean, I may have to find something else to do than plant myself on Page3 all day long.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - I hate our freedoms
01/22/2004 @ 05:38:47 PM
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I addressed that in my comment on the superbowl. If everyone (anyone) else would get their's done I could activate the super bowl page.
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - Washington Bureau Chief
01/22/2004 @ 11:14:47 PM
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I think posting our Super Bowl picks any sooner than a week before the actual event would be in bad taste.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
01/23/2004 @ 09:53:35 AM
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I actually forgot that the Super Bowl wasn't until next week. I was freakin out (ok, not really) that you didn't have the new page up yet, but now it all makes sense. Yes....yes (sinister smile and shifty eyes).
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question_mark.gifAnon. Nut Can Fan (Guest)
01/23/2004 @ 05:52:59 PM
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Why does page3 show no love for mozilla? any true playa knows mozilla be da shizzit.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children.
01/24/2004 @ 12:31:08 AM
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Because like 4 super geeks use it. I'm about as geeky as they come and I think IE is fine. Web pages are designed for IE, you miss out on stuff or see crappy looking output in mozilla on like every page.
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scott.jpgscott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
01/24/2004 @ 02:51:55 AM
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what's mozilla and IE?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
01/24/2004 @ 02:09:17 PM
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IE = Internet Explorer. They're both web browsers.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
01/24/2004 @ 03:19:48 PM
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Ahh, I get it. I'm an IE user myself.
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