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49ers 10 @ Packers 20
JeremyI just don’t understand the 49ers. Boom or Bust, they win or lose by 25. All us Viking fans are hoping for a 2nd boom in a row. They’ve been on fire since Rattay got in there so look for Garcia to be back in there struggling since it’s against the Packers.
MattWow...Brett Favre 13/28 for 92 yds last week. Yup...It sure is his team.
JonPage 3's most diligent reader (non-staff category) Scott will be attending this game. Rumor has it he'll be wearing blaze orange so...watch for him on tv. Hey Scott, remember your Sharpie. Oh yeah and four words for those who care: Owens! Owens! Owens! Owens!
SarahI want to set the record straight: the Packers OWN the 49ers. Despite that OWeNs fellow ruining our chance at the 1998 Super Bowl, even though the play shouldn't have happened in the first place. Yea, the 49ers looked impressive on Monday, and yes we have only strung two wins in a row once this year, but I'm still feelin' it.
Lions 14 @ Vikings 24
JeremyDetroit hasn't won a road game in almost 3 years...any doubt that will come to an end on Sunday? The Vikings season is unraveling on and off the field, the Lions are yet another team desperate for a win in a season that is over for them, desperate teams that have nothing to play for are dangerous. However with the Packers officially nipping at their heals just one game back the Vikes are desperate for a win too for the first time all season. How bad does a team have to be for the spread to be 10.5 points in the favor of a team that has just lost 4 embarrassing games in a row? Especially since the inter-division games are always so close.
MattThe Vikings suck. But they will still win the NFC North this year.
JonHey the Vikings have a chance to lose to arguably the three worst teams in the NFL in three straight weeks.
SarahAnd suddenly it's an 8-4 ball game. Ah life is good. Pack is up in the power rankings, and the Vikings are on a FOUR game losing streak. Things are looking up. The Vikings should take this one, if not life is even sweeter.
Redskins 23 @ Dolphins 24
JeremyRicky Williams was my number one pick. There are many running backs with more points. Translation: I have nothing to say here.
MattI'm sick of writing comments.
JonWashington at Miami. Not as compelling as Washington at Valley Forge, but then again, probably not as cold either. Advantage: Miami
SarahPatrick Ramsey has been playing with a broken foot, interesting. They still suck. Miami should take this one. Washington 21 Miami 34
Giants 13 @ Buccaneers 19
JeremyWhat the hell is Tampa's problem? Can't they be depended on to beat people at home? They need to do very well to have a shot at the wild card. By the way, am I the only one that thinks it's lame that the only reason this is an MNF game is because of Tiki and Ronde?
MattJeremy, don't forget about the third Barber brother Joe.
JonThe Giants have such a lineup of talent on offense, yet they can't get it done. Just goes to show you...football’s all a crapshoot. Tampa should win.
SarahHmmm.... two craptastic teams battling it out on Monday night. Keyshawn being deactivating is probably a good thing for TB. He made it clear he didn't want to be there, so they just cut the ties. He can't even come into the building. Good times. However, this may be distracting to the team, not for the better either. The Giants are collapsing as we speak, and Fassel could be fired at any moment. Not a good season for either team. Did anyone catch lask week's game? I was inspired by the Packer's 98 yard drive. Awesome.
|Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet|
Jon, Matt, and I were talking the other day and we had some thoughts on football: In baseball many teams have their ace, like Pedro in Boston, and most of the time they deliver, but the once in a blue moon that they just don't have it that day they get taken out and no one really makes a big deal out of it.
Why is it in football that there is such a stigma about, "he is the starter" and "he is the backup" and thats the way it is and if it is ever changed there is so much read into it and so many other negative things that follow?
Obviously in baseball there is a bullpen and a major part of the game revolves around the fact that you can't have just one guy in your rotation, but this is just speaking in terms of the ace.
No quarterback performs 100% of the time. Why should it be such a big thing to bring in the backup on days your QB isn't performing well? Or on days that the QB has shown he can't hold the ball? Or in games in which a QB is injured to the point where he literally couldn't throw the ball if he wanted to?
You never hear a "pitching controversy" talked about but every week there is some quarterback controversy being discussed in terms likes it's almost scandalous to discuss.
|Sarah - 4089 Posts|
|How is it not his team?|
|Jeremy - 8953 Posts|
How is it?
p.s. Stop calling me chief.
|Sarah - So's your face|
|He's clearly the leader of the team, he has been there since '92, and the closest to that I believe is Henderson. Our running game is awesome, but we don't have our receivers bitching about not getting the ball often enough. Favre didn't have to throw 300 yds against Tampa to win, he did what he had to do, just like the rest of our team. He's also hurt right now, but as my man Butler put it, would you rather have a hurt Favre or a healthy Pederson out there? Who scares defenses more? It's clear. And no, I don't care what some Viking fans say because they don't want to concentrate on their own team. The Pack is a good team, with good teamwork. The only thing that matters to them is winning, not about stats. With that being said, go offensive line, we lead the league in rushing.|
|Jeremy - 8953 Posts|
|A hurt Favre and a Favre that literally can't throw a pass are two different things. No one is questioning whether or not he's a leader. He IS NOT the most important person out there anymore, thats a fact.|
|Scott - 6225 Posts|
I have to admit, I'm starting to turn around my thoughts on who's team this is. Leadership wise, there probably is no better man to have in the huddle than Favre. He makes the people around him play better. You might be able to argue that, but that's my point. Favre plays because he wants to win, not because of a streak (that's not really the argument here though). Green has proven (although he has a tendency to fumble) that he can carry this team. Regardless of the injury to his thumb, Favre has not had to carry this team because Green has stepped up. (leads the league with 1500 total yards) Whether or not Favre is capable to still put his numbers like he did about 6 or 7 years ago doesn't really matter. Should Favre sit this week and rest his thumb? His thumb should not have gotten any worse from the hit at the end of the Bucs game. The Milwaukee Journal says that something like that shouldn't hamper the healing process, just add temporary pain. It's hard to say, though. I agree that there shouldn't be that much controversy about QB the way that nobody complains about the "ace" in baseball. When a guy has performed as well as Favre has for so long, however, if he says he can play and perform well, then I tend to say let him play. Favre plays to win, not for himself. If the Packers sit him and start Pederson (which I doubt will happen) things will be different. With Favre in there, no matter how hurt he is, defenses respect him (hence the running success) If Pederson plays, defenses won't play so much to defend the pass and the run may suffer, but who knows. What this season has proven, however, is that Favre is not as unexpendable as he has been in past years. That doesn't take away from his nestalgia, nor his ability to perform when he needs to.
Oh yeah, one more thing. Sad news, Jon, I'm not going to that game after:(. No blaze orange,
|Scott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings|
|Check out the poll on the NFL section at espn.com. You didn't here it from me though.|
|Jeremy - Robots don't say 'ye'|
|No question there, but don't try to convice Sarah of that.|
|Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear|
Going back to the QB thing I brought up. Obviously you have to have a backup that has a chance to do fairly well. There would be too big a drop off from Favre to Pederson in both talent and respect to get away with putting Pederson in anytime Favre is in trouble, but if your QB literally can't throw, then what is he doing out there?
The main situations I was talking about was ones like last week in the Viking-Oakland game. Daunte is the future of the Vikings and by a long shot the best QB on the roster, but he just was off Sunday (despite throwing for and ungodly amount of yards.) However bringing in Ferotte would have been a big scandle, it would have been the focus of every NFL broadcast of the day.
Or how about in Cleveland? Why should they have to choose a QB? They obviously both have talent, so if one guy isn't getting it done, or if the other has played well against certain teams in the past then just pick a guy for each week. Why does it have to be a big thing? Shouldn't it be looked on as a good thing? I mean the Browns can withhold who's going to start as long as possible every week. You could rotate them in and out like pitchers, keeping them fresh.
Teams rotate 3 running backs and an entire fleet of wide receivers, but make a change at QB and there's hell to pay...I don't get it.
|Scott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.|
I don't know if I'm the right person to answer that question, but I'm going to anyway, cuz we're all experts here, right?
The QB spot to me seems like a feel game. If a QB gets in a rythmn things go good, if that tempo is broken, his touch may be thrown off. Rotating QB's in and out is probably different than rotating pitchers, for this reason. A RB or a WR doesn't have to deal with this as much because it isn't about touch to them. It isn't about them finding a comfort zone or a mechanical process that throwing demands.
That being said, I have no idea why there is so much controversy in terms of QBs.
|Jon - many posts|
Oh man, did I jinx you scott? Does page 3 have a jinx just like SI? Regardless, from now on, I should limit my page 3 material to stuff that cannot be rendered obsolete so quickly. I mean my comment was obsolete before it was even posted and now I got that just hanging out there for the rest of the week. And at this rate spring training will arrive before my twins playoff article disappears from the center of Page 3. that settles it, I'm dropping out of school and devoting the extra time to Page 3. Oh who am I kidding, I'd spend the extra time playing video games and eating pistachios. Stay in School kids.
|Jon - Nutcan.com's kitten expert|
|Oh man, did I jinx you scott? Does page 3 have a jinx just like SI? Regardless, from now on, I should limit my page 3 material to stuff that cannot be rendered obsolete so quickly. I mean my comment was obsolete before it was even posted and now I got that just hanging out there for the rest of the week. And at this rate spring training will arrive before my twins playoff article disappears from the center of Page 3. that settles it, I'm dropping out of school and devoting the extra time to Page 3. Oh who am I kidding, I'd spend the extra time playing video games and eating pistachios. Stay in School kids.|
|Jon - 2846 Posts|
|Ha. I entered it twice on purpose cause one time I did that and it recognized it and didn't let me do it and I wanted to try that again. But uh...it didn't do that this time so Jeremy you can delete the second one and this message too.|
|Scott - Resident Tech Support|
In response to Jon's "Owens" quote:
"The kick is up. It is long enough, it is GOOD!!! HE WON IT!!!! HE MADE IT!!!! AND THE PACKERS HAVE WON IN OVERTIME!!!!! A 53 YARD FIELD GOAL!!!!!"
Jim Irwin's call in November of 1996 on Monday Night in Green Bay against the 49ers. Chris Jacke's game winning fieldgoal, on a night when he hit 5. Not quite so memorable to those non-Packer fans out there(or possibly I'm the only person on this planet who knows that call), but it's always been one of my favorites.
|Sarah - 4089 Posts|
|I remember that game, my dad made me go to bed, as it was dragging on and of course I had school in the morning. But then, my dad came into my room and said I had to see something. It was the replay of Jacke's game winning field goal. It was sweet. It was such a long kick, who'd a thunk he'd hit it? That was just a great game. Owens sucks.|
|I like football. C'mon where's the love for the Falcons?|
|Matt - Washington Bureau Chief|
|The Falcons should re-sign Jamal Anderson and let him play QB.|
|Jeremy - As Seen On The Internet|
|Then Jamal can be the one to explain how they are a better team than an opponent immediatly following a blowout loss to said opponent.|
|Jeremy - I believe virtually everything I read.|
|What does Randy need to do to get a call to go his way? There's a lot of hatin going on.|
|Jeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist|
|Could the Refs make it anymore crystal clear that the Vikes aren't winning this game?|
|Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on?|
|So the Vikes finally won, although the score is a little deceptive. Ahman Green could make it to 2000 rushing yards if he can finish strong. If it weren't for the fumble problem he could be a serious MVP candidate.|
|Sarah - 4089 Posts|
|The Viking game score was VERY deceptive. It was like 7-7 until way into the 4th? Yea. Packer's D is really hittin' their stride, very good game today. Green continues to run, I would give him MVP if I could vote. How bout that tackle by Antuan Edwards on TO? That was like wrestling style. Didn't like all the interceptions, but what can you do? I'm just worried our RBs are going to be tired for Thanksgiving.|
|Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman|
|You're right, it was deceptive. For one the 14 points don't reflect that the defense gave up nothing all day. Secondly it was only 7-7 because it was absolutly the most systematic raping of a team and a specific player I have ever seen. Everytime the Vikes did something well there was a flag on the play. Randy Moss was knocked to the ground on 2 or 3 bombs and only drew 2 flags...one was picked up and one was called against him. He was also called for unsportsmanlike conduct for "spiking" the ball IN THE VIKES BENCH, I've never seen anything like todays game. I don't want to sound like a whiner, but this is more than just sour grapes.|
|Sarah - How do you use these things?|
|Wow, I wish I could've seen the Seahawks and Ravens game. It just got over with and my clock says 4:05. A four hour game? I was adding the scores, and I added the seahawks as a win because I thought it was as good as over, since the hawks were winning by 10. But wow, the Ravens came back and won the game and I was the only one who picked them. I was also the only one who picked the packers. Did I not tell you guys the Packers own the 49ers? I'm slowly catching up to Jeremy. watch out world!|
|Matt - 3354 Posts|
|Jon and I were just listening to the Vikings post game radio show on KFAN, and some guy called in and gave the exact same Baseball - Ace Pitcher/Football - Starting QB analogy that Jeremy posted earlier this week, practically word for word. I think the caller must have visited our site. Unless Jeremy had a relative or someone make the call.|
|Scott - 6225 Posts|
ESPN the magazine says that the World Series of Poker is the most underrated event in sports. I was just thinking that, but I don't remember telling anyone. How are they doing this?
ESP...........N the magazine.