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English city cuts number of holes in salt shakers



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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
06/30/2008 @ 09:41:04 PM
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It's a good idea in and of itself, maybe they just could've told chip shop owners it would save them money on salt.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children.
07/01/2008 @ 09:21:38 AM
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Well, I don't know. The people who want that much salt can just shake it longer, but perhaps the problem was that with a 17 hole opening it was hard to put a small amount of salt on. Still seems like a goofy thing to regulate. I guess maybe their point was that people put on an amount that "feels right" in terms of dispensing time, rather than trying it, adding more, trying it, adding more, etc, and maybe they found people were actually perfectly satisfied with less salt, but they never tried less because they just always did 3 shakes, or something.

You know you have problems though when you unscrew the lid to the shaker because you intend to dump so much salt on.
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jon.jpgJon - infinity + 1 posts
07/01/2008 @ 11:46:04 AM
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I get the idea of making marginal improvments and picking your battles and all that, but it's still a little funny that they're concerned about the health effects of salt on people who are consuming deep fried fish with a side of deep fried potato slices.

I'm gonna guess that the "£7billion a year" that heart disease costs the taxpayers can be traced back to the food that's being salted as much as the actual salt.

I'm not making a political statement here or suggesting they take some other specific action, I just found it interesting.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children.
07/01/2008 @ 12:14:17 PM
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Well it's like when I worked at BK and people would get a Double Whopper with cheese, add bacon, heavy everything, "King Size" the combo and then get a Diet Coke. It was sort of funny in a "yeah, you're really watching your figure there" way, but at the same time every little bit helps and it's not like the calories from the coke would have less of an impact because the rest of the meal had so many.
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jon.jpgJon - 2847 Posts
07/01/2008 @ 12:35:01 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - 07/01/2008 @ 12:14:17 PM
Well it's like when I worked at BK and people would get a Double Whopper with cheese, add bacon, heavy everything, "King Size" the combo and then get a Diet Coke. It was sort of funny in a "yeah, you're really watching your figure there" way, but at the same time every little bit helps and it's not like the calories from the coke would have less of an impact because the rest of the meal had so many.


Are you arguing with me? Or agreeing with me? Because I clearly stated I get the whole marginal improvement thing so you better not be lecturing me bub! I will fight you. I will fight you right now!

Personally (and this is maybe getting a bit off topic), I'm a big proponent of the "making the sacrifices you can feel comfortable with" type of eating. I like to eat my fast food chicken sandwiches minus the mayo. Some items I get them with just a bit of mayo. It's a taste and a health/calorie issue for me. And I can do the grilled chicken at BK, but I don't like Wendy's grilled so I get the breaded there. But I like to limit french fry intake so I like places like Wendy's that have good options to substitute. But I don't do diet soda. Not unless I'm feeling daring. It's not worth the sacrifice to me. You shouldn't despise your beverage. Also, I've found that I don't need as much, or any, cheese on certain sandwiches or other items compared to what is normally put on them, so I either ask for less, or none or sometimes remove some cheese myself.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
07/01/2008 @ 12:49:51 PM
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Agreeing I guess, mostly supplementing with an anecdote of my own while making no evaluation of what you said what-so-ever.

I don't know what sort of impact cheese vs no cheese makes healthwise. I've always been a cheeseburger person, but the occasional cheese-less hamburger I have I can hardly tell the difference. I think the only thing I've even been able to really notice the cheese on is BK's double cheeseburgers. Maybe I'll stop getting cheese from now on. I always get the ceasar side salad rather than the fries at wendy's, though I don't know how much of an improvement that is. (I just looked it up, it's a big improvement. 70 Cal vs 430)

As for Diet Soda, I don't get it. I guess you can get used to it or something, but I don't get why you would get a beverage that's the perfect middle ground - unenjoyable and unhealthy*? Either get the pop you're going to enjoy drinking, or get a water.

I'm sure there are kooks out there that have convinced themselves they like, rather than just tolerate, diet pop, but I highly doubt even those people wouldn't rather have the regular version.

* I mean in comparison to water. I know diet pop puts up a lot of zeros in the things we're tracking on nutritional charts, but that doesn't mean drinking God-knows-what chemicals is better on your body than just drinking water.
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jon.jpgJon - many posts
07/01/2008 @ 01:09:04 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - 07/01/2008 @ 12:49:51 PM
I always get the ceasar side salad rather than the fries at wendy's, though I don't know how much of an improvement that is. (I just looked it up, it's a big improvement. 70 Cal vs 430)


the 70 just covers the lettuce with the cheese and bacon pieces. the dressing is 120 and the croutons are 70. so you're probably at at least 190 unless you don't use dressing. or 260 if you use all the dressing and croutons. But still it's about 60% of what you'd get with french fries.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Cube Phenomenoligist
07/01/2008 @ 01:47:54 PM
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Yeah, I was wondering that, it seemed a bit too good to be true. It's also less food than the fries, so I wonder ounce for ounce what it would be. (Though obviously smaller portions have their merits too.)
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