A Locker in Green BayThis is a bit piecemeal for now, but work with me.
On Mike & Mike, they discussed, in multiple segments, Brett Favre's locker.
The discussion stems from a story from here: http://www.onmilwaukee.com/sports/articles/wildeblog052608.html
The first part of the (audio) discussion is where the main link goes to. http://sports.espn.go.com/espnradio/player?context=audio&id=3415403
The second part can be accessed if you're an ESPN insider here:
(at about the 3:58 mark)
Finally, if you want their final remarks on the subject, you can get them here: http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/espnradio/player?id=3415332
(at about the 5:32 mark)
The highlights of the discussion, among other things, should be available to everyone within the next day or two on the "Best of Mike & Mike" section (at the bottom) of this page:
(Or on itunes if you prefer.)
So, even though it might be less complicated to hear it all by then, I decided to post it now since we all love these stories so much.
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|Jon - infinity + 1 posts|
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(Angelic voice) Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Brett Favre's Lockeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer
It's a little weird/creepy. I can see them wanting to do something with it in the hall of fame. It's a bit weird to keep it in tact in the locker room no one public can get to, unless it's an homage to someone who died while on the team, especially to someone like Korey Stringer who basically died as a result of playing football. (And I'm not just saying that because I'm a Viking fan.) Because than it IS about the semi-private remembrance of a fallen comrade.
Ultimately I don't think it's that big of a deal, but I'm not sure what kind of message it sends to the rest of the team. I don't think you have to be Aaron Rodgers to be effected by the Packers'/Fans' lopsided, unquestioning, worship of Favre.
|Jeremy - I believe virtually everything I read.|
|Also, wasn't this locker room just redone a few years ago?|
|Jon - 1000000 posts (and counting!)|
Jeremy Wrote - 05/28/2008 @ 04:22:50 PM
(Angelic voice) Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh Brett Favre's Lockeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeer Classic. It's a little weird/creepy. I can see them wanting to do something with it in the hall of fame. It's a bit weird to keep it in tact in the locker room no one public can get to, unless it's an homage to someone who died while on the team, especially to someone like Korey Stringer who basically died as a result of playing football. (And I'm not just saying that because I'm a Viking fan.) Because than it IS about the semi-private remembrance of a fallen comrade. Ultimately I don't think it's that big of a deal, but I'm not sure what kind of message it sends to the rest of the team. I don't think you have to be Aaron Rodgers to be effected by the Packers'/Fans' lopsided, unquestioning, worship of Favre.
Yeah those are some of the same thoughts I had.
It's not really a big deal, and I kind of think it's fine if they wanna do something else with it, but the locker room itself isn't the place for it. Maybe they just are in a state of planning or they haven't had time or they just wanted to keep their options open. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.
The radio discussion is just kind of fun for some of the comments they make or read. Or play. The frank caliendo is classic.
|Jon messed with this at 05/28/2008 4:30:39 pm|
|Jeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?"|
Maybe they are just hoping to replace him with the Excuse-O-Matic
Edit: I know this isn't new to anyone, but it's pretty funny. You can almost see Brett doing his "you were supposed to cut the other way" gesture.
|Jeremy messed with this at 05/28/2008 4:47:17 pm|
|PackOne - At the Dollhouse in Ft. Lauderdale.|
This is actually kind of old news. They also have a haunted locker in the locker room that was reported on here back on May 9th. I wish I got the insider.
|Scott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.|
I don't remember Favre ever doing much for excuse making. I didn't find that video very funny.
I'll say this: I know Jeremy doesn't "hate" Brett Favre, but he won't pass up any opportunity to instigate the subject of hating Favre.
|Scott screwed with this at 05/28/2008 8:35:08 pm|
|Jeremy - 8953 Posts|
Well I just think they bungled the premise. Brett DID do his gesture an awful lot, but I don't think he made that many excuses. The excuse-o-matic was supposed to be an automatic excuse maker for fans to use, then they sort of confused the issue by making the excuse-o-matic talk in the first person.
As for the locker: It's not that I dislike Favre, it's just I've noticed twinges of "What am I? Chopped Liver?" in the faces of like Donald Driver and such when people just go on and on about Brett and what it's like to catch passes from Brett and so on.
|Scott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings|
If a HOF QB says his receivers ran the wrong routes, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. If a 3rd year (or 10th year journeyman) QB says the same thing, maybe not. That's neither here nor there though, just fuel to the fire.
Whatever they do with the locker is what it is I guess. I think the players understand for the most part. It might get old after a while, but I think they understand (then again, I'm not a player; who knows, maybe they resent the heck out of it). Even Favre made it pretty clear that other players deserved some of the credit. During his retirement speech, with tears in his eyes, he referred to "our accomplishments. It was never MY accomplishments." Anyway, I don't disagree completely. It does seem strange to have this type of thing in the locker room. However, when you have a player that clearly everyone (even the players) had that much respect for, maybe it will serve as a source of motivation. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.
It is also a good thing to point out again that the locker he used just last year was built in 2003. There is no doubt his best years were NOT between 2003-2007 (2007 wasn't too shabby, but 03 to 06 aren't what are going to put him in the HOF).
|PackOne - 1528 Posts|
|I think the problem revolves around nobody wanting it.|
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PackOne Wrote - 05/28/2008 @ 10:06:08 PM
I think the problem revolves around nobody wanting it.
I disagree. I don't think many of them care.
Golic said he'd have no problem taking the locker.
|Scott - 6225 Posts|
Yeah, well Golic isn't anybody.
Jon Wrote - 05/29/2008 @ 05:23:22 PM
PackOne Wrote - 05/28/2008 @ 10:06:08 PMI disagree. I don't think many of them care. Golic said he'd have no problem taking the locker.
I think the problem revolves around nobody wanting it.
Seriously, Favre stinks like there's no tomorrow. The stench has been absorbed into the wood of his locker over the past 3 years. Really, NO ONE wants his locker.
|PackOne - If you got a problem ... yo i'll solve it.|
Actually I'm pretty sure the players said they did not want the locker. The name plate was removed today.
EDIT UPDATE:“I think it’s been totally blown out of proportion,” coach Mike McCarthy said on Thursday. “It’s frankly an excellent idea that Ted Thompson and the organization had as far as a gift on a personal note to Brett. It’s been discussed with Brett, and we can talk about it at a later date. But its really a construction concern, is the reason why the locker hasn’t been taken out of there. So there’s nothing more to it. A lot has been made of it. . . . Ted, at the board of directors meeting yesterday, talked about the Brett locker situation and told them the plans that he had had as far as what he was going to do with the locker and they gave him a standing ovation. It’s a classy move and something that definitely reflects how the Green Bay Packers do business and how they appreciate what Brett Favre has done in his career
|PackOne screwed with this at 05/30/2008 1:07:30 am|
|Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue.|
|The Lockers is going to Favre's home.|