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2008 Fantasy Football

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password: milhouse (I think)
I set the draft for August 21st at 7:00 CST. Open to changes.

I might keep my name from last year, "Bench A-Rod 4-ever"
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avatar2345.jpgPackOne - If you got a problem ... yo i'll solve it.
08/05/2008 @ 05:48:35 PM
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In.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
08/05/2008 @ 07:38:03 PM
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I've joined, but I may not make the draft date/time. It's my birthday, you see. The day after Micah's, as a matter of fact.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
08/05/2008 @ 08:43:27 PM
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I wanted to name my team "SarahLovesFavreMoreThanHisWifeDoes" but I think it is too many letters.
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question_mark.giffrozentundrafan - 21 Posts
08/09/2008 @ 04:31:21 PM
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fun league or for cash?
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
08/09/2008 @ 05:57:04 PM
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Fun and bragging rights
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flower .jpgPackOne - 1528 Posts
08/26/2008 @ 09:35:20 PM
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Did you intentionally schedule the draft in the middle of a Packer game?
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - How do you use these things?
08/26/2008 @ 09:56:38 PM
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I realized this this past weekend. I knew when the draft was and I knew when the Packer game was and never connected the two. I've been mad at myself ever since.
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flower .jpgPackOne - Don't mess with Jeremy. He owns your tag lines.
08/26/2008 @ 11:19:57 PM
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Well, luckily it should be the scrubs most of the way.
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flower .jpgPackOne - Take your shirt off, twist it 'round yo' hand...spin it like a helicopter.
08/27/2008 @ 12:27:22 PM
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I just realized I will be drafting with a new laptop, most likely running Vista, which I don't use, which will get turned on for the first time at about 7:15. Hopefully the wireless is easy to get up and going, I am assuming it is.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!?
08/27/2008 @ 12:39:05 PM
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Well, I assume you have another computer you can use as a fail-safe, seeing as you just made that post and all.
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avatar2345.jpgPackOne - 1528 Posts
08/27/2008 @ 11:50:30 PM
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No, I have to give this computer back. It's a UW refresh.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
08/28/2008 @ 10:51:04 AM
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Are you in Jon? Also, we have a 13 team league, maybe 14, and a 6 person bench. I think we should cut down on the number of bench players. Yes?
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avatar2345.jpgPackOne - That hypocrite smokes two packs a day.
08/28/2008 @ 11:26:59 AM
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Yes, cut down. I did a twenty person league last night and it gets kind of ridiculous picking up 6th string receivers that might not make the cut.
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - 3354 Posts
08/28/2008 @ 11:42:30 AM
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As of about 5 minutes ago, he says he's out.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
08/28/2008 @ 12:40:42 PM
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I cut the number of bench players to 4, anything else?
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
08/28/2008 @ 01:11:03 PM
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Didn't we have 6 with 12 teams last year? I petition for at least 5, preferably 6 and you can switch it to autodraft once you don't care anymore.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
08/28/2008 @ 01:18:43 PM
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It has nothing to do with the draft taking longer. It makes the other 99.9% of the fantasy season lame when every RB, WR, and QB who could ever conceivably touch the ball went in the draft. There's no strategy left at that point, you just have to hope for no injuries.
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2887.gifAlex - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose
08/28/2008 @ 01:21:31 PM
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Well, it will kind of stink for a person who has a great draft but because of the bye weeks they have to drop players that they really don't want to or just forfeit those weeks. There's strategy in that you might actually have 3 decent RBs on your roster and you have to try and pick which 2 will have the best game for a given week.
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newalex.jpgAlex - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret
08/28/2008 @ 01:22:57 PM
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If you draft horribly or are just really unlucky with injuries you will lose. That's the way this thing works.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
08/28/2008 @ 01:31:04 PM
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Well, it's not like we're talking about superstars floating around. If you have a horrible draft you're still going to be done for. IMO it will keep the league more interesting for more people longer if the best players available aren't the Falcon's 4th string receiver and a fullback on the Cardinals that got a TD once because Edgerrin James lost a contact lens on the play before.
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - Ombudsman
08/28/2008 @ 01:40:01 PM
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While I'm not opposed to only 4 bench players, I also wouldn't be opposed to 5.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
08/28/2008 @ 07:04:35 PM
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Figures, Jon joins at the last second and gets the #1 overall pick.
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sarah.jpgSarah - So's your face
08/28/2008 @ 09:19:30 PM
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That new rule for pushouts is bull.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
08/28/2008 @ 09:22:38 PM
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I don't like the rule change at all. They should've changed it to one foot down then.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
08/28/2008 @ 09:28:33 PM
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You're an idiot. That has to be like the greatest rule change ever.

Here's some chat I managed to copy.

Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: i'm last!
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: wtf
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: anyone here?
Dinoscores: i'm here
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: hey micah
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: hey micah
PackOne: packone here
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: i'm not going ot have the best draft with the 13th pick
PackOne: NICE number 2
PackOne: YES
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: yea yea
PackOne: wow vista is different
Vitals @ Nutcan.com: screw you guys
Vitals @ Nutcan.com: I get the most boned as always
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: oh boo hoo
Vitals @ Nutcan.com: the internet is the same :)
PackOne: yep it is
PackOne: does photoshop have a different name naow
PackOne: within cs3
QB or not QB!?!?: i don't want to draft 10th
Jet Favre: I actually lke using vista
Dinoscores: i'll trade 4th
Jet Favre: I hate trying to support it
QB or not QB!?!?: deal
QB or not QB!?!?: can we do that?
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: niced play
PackOne: aaron rodgers rules btw
Jet Favre: I'm glad to see Jon joined the league
PackOne: nice play
Jet Favre: I have Rodgers in one of my other leagues
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: rodgers does not rule, jennings does
PackOne: me too
Jet Favre: my other QB is Mark Bulger
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: sad
QB or not QB!?!?: if someone takes t jack in the 1st round i'll take rodgers in the 1st
Jet Favre: so A-Rod is actually probably the better qb:)
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: wtf just happened?
Vitals @ Nutcan.com: I wish the right half of this wasnt 90% useless crap with only room for 10 words of chat shown at a time
PackOne: fake punt
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: argh
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: ridic
Dinoscores: i need to know how much chex mix satisfies me
Vitals @ Nutcan.com: Vikings game is being braodcast from the moon via a cellphone camera
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: lol
Jet Favre: I'm going to the Packer game when the Play the Bucs on 9/28
Jet Favre: not quite as exciting as it would have been if Favre would have ended up with the Bucs
Jet Favre: but exciting nonetheless
Vitals @ Nutcan.com: whats the over under for bubba franks at #5?
Jet Favre: over, because I've got the 11th pick
Vitals @ Nutcan.com: well, he has to get past carl first
ACCarters: I demand compensation from Jon... I now have to draft from my crappy laptop and he gets the #1 and I get #14
Maybe: my tentative name change for my team is "the delfino square all-stars"
Maybe: pack one's avatar looks like dwight shrute
Bench A-Rod 4-Ever: he's probably shocked at how bad the packers are playing
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Jeremy edited this at 08/28/2008 9:28:55 pm
vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
08/29/2008 @ 09:16:05 AM
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I have this Brett Favre character I can trade- decent QB AND WR for Brett. Or just look at my team and offer someone to plug in the gaps.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
08/29/2008 @ 09:29:40 AM
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You should count your blessings. The auto picking algorithm didn't pick a runningback for Tony's team (a-rod's era) until it filled everything else, and it drafted 7 QB's to Craig's team (Portage Pumas), 5 of them backups. (It actually picked 2 backups from the Patriots, so it picked at least one 3rd stringer) His starting qb is so-so and the only other QB with a chance to play is J.T. O'Sullivan, so at best he'll do just well enough to keep his job.

Seriously, file that one under "bug." Good one, yahoo.
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2887.gifAlex - 3618 Posts
08/29/2008 @ 01:10:42 PM
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Well, in some fairness to the algorithm, everyone was picking RBs about 50 picks ahead of their avg pick. That's why I didn't bother to take a 3rd RB until round 13.
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goodlooking.jpgcraig - 14499 Posts
08/29/2008 @ 02:00:22 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 09:29:40 AM
You should count your blessings. The auto picking algorithm didn't pick a runningback for Tony's team (a-rod's era) until it filled everything else, and it drafted 7 QB's to Craig's team (Portage Pumas), 5 of them backups. (It actually picked 2 backups from the Patriots, so it picked at least one 3rd stringer) His starting qb is so-so and the only other QB with a chance to play is J.T. O'Sullivan, so at best he'll do just well enough to keep his job. Seriously, file that one under "bug." Good one, yahoo.


You told me not to use the autopicker because it would pick a kicker way too early, so I just removed all the kickers from the players I wanted drafted. And as expected I didn't waste a pick on a kicker. Instead it wasted 6 picks on the worst quarterbacks imaginable. I'm willing to bet I've got more depth at the CQB* position than anyone in the league. Good news owners! I'm listening to offers on all my QBs!

*Crappy Quarterback
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craig screwed with this at 08/29/2008 2:00:37 pm
fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Pie Racist
08/29/2008 @ 02:16:41 PM
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Alex Wrote - Today @ 01:10:42 PM
Well, in some fairness to the algorithm, everyone was picking RBs about 50 picks ahead of their avg pick. That's why I didn't bother to take a 3rd RB until round 13.


Right, that way you could end up with a marginal 3rd string WR, a QB that could be a complete bust (and probably wont put up good fantasy numbers either way), and 3 running backs that are backups behind sure-fire starters. What WERE the rest of us thinking?!
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
08/29/2008 @ 02:19:29 PM
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Also, it's too late now, but I thought we decided this, and if not we can do it now: Let's ditch the defensive player next season.
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2887.gifAlex - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret
08/29/2008 @ 06:04:50 PM
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Reggie Williams had 10 TDs last year, everyone thinks Garrard will be have a pretty good year, and the rest of the WRs on the team more or less aren't very good. Steal of the draft. Besides who was left for RB? Ahman Green? He might reach 100 carries this year (which is why I took Slaton). Maurice Morris might actually be a starter, not that it matters since the Seahawks pass the ball 95% of the time. And I'll probably drop Brandon Jackson before week 1, I just wanted to stash an extra RB for a week since I don't give a hoot who I end up with for a defensive player (in other words, I'm fine with ditching that slot). After round 6, Ray Rice was really the only RB on my radar and that was just to handcuff to McGahee.

For fantasy purposes I don't care if Rodgers bombs (although I think you vastly underrate his potential) because I think McNabb will have a big year.

To harp on the sure-fire starters comment, Green has had less than 80 carries 2 of the last 3 years, Julius Jones is listed 2nd on the Seahawks depth chart, and I sure hope that Ryan Grant is healthy enough for a full load of work but I remain skeptical until proven otherwise.

Really there only are about 5 (ok, maybe 10) sure-fire starting RBs.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
08/30/2008 @ 02:20:53 PM
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I guess I could've taken Rudi Johnson in the 6th round ;)

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp08/news/story?id=3561014
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scott.jpgScott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings
08/31/2008 @ 07:46:57 AM
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Alex Wrote - 08/28/2008 @ 02:21:31 PM
Well, it will kind of stink for a person who has a great draft but because of the bye weeks they have to drop players that they really don't want to or just forfeit those weeks. There's strategy in that you might actually have 3 decent RBs on your roster and you have to try and pick which 2 will have the best game for a given week.


The Bye week issue only matters with Head-to-head leagues. With a league where it's simply an accumulation of points, pretty much everyone has to bite the bullet and ot sort of evens out.
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jon.jpgJon - 1 bajillion posts
09/01/2008 @ 10:18:50 PM
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Scott Wrote - Yesterday @ 07:46:57 AM
Alex Wrote - 08/28/2008 @ 01:21:31 PM
Well, it will kind of stink for a person who has a great draft but because of the bye weeks they have to drop players that they really don't want to or just forfeit those weeks. There's strategy in that you might actually have 3 decent RBs on your roster and you have to try and pick which 2 will have the best game for a given week.
The Bye week issue only matters with Head-to-head leagues. With a league where it's simply an accumulation of points, pretty much everyone has to bite the bullet and ot sort of evens out.


It's true it doesn't matter as much in some regards, but it would matter if you had a really small bench and weren't able to put an active player in there unless you dropped someone, due to bye weeks of players lining up with each other, while other teams might not have that problem.
Of course, we've already had the draft so it doesn't matter, but you know, I figured I'd throw that in, since I think that's what Alex was getting at.
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avatar2345.jpgPackOne - The Harvard comma's #1 fan.
09/01/2008 @ 11:51:19 PM
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I'm going to win.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
09/02/2008 @ 12:40:45 AM
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Alex Wrote - 08/29/2008 @ 06:04:50 PM
Reggie Williams had 10 TDs last year, everyone thinks Garrard will be have a pretty good year, and the rest of the WRs on the team more or less aren't very good. Steal of the draft. Besides who was left for RB? Ahman Green? He might reach 100 carries this year (which is why I took Slaton). Maurice Morris might actually be a starter, not that it matters since the Seahawks pass the ball 95% of the time. And I'll probably drop Brandon Jackson before week 1, I just wanted to stash an extra RB for a week since I don't give a hoot who I end up with for a defensive player (in other words, I'm fine with ditching that slot). After round 6, Ray Rice was really the only RB on my radar and that was just to handcuff to McGahee.

I was talking about your bench. All in all no one really made any significant reaches, except for the autopicking teams.

Alex Wrote - 08/29/2008 @ 06:04:50 PM
For fantasy purposes I don't care if Rodgers bombs (although I think you vastly underrate his potential) because I think McNabb will have a big year.


Obviously Rodgers could hold every passing record known to man in 10 years. Do you know how many quarterbacks had "potential" before they were given a chance in which they floundered or failed spectacularly? It's not the exception, it's the rule. Factor out the flops (out of the league), the journeymen who are just good enough to keep making rosters, the caretaker QB's, and the high-picks-who-would-be-flops-but-the-team-made-too-big-of-an-investment-to-just-dump, and you have roughly 98% of the guys to ever take a snap in the NFL. I'm not saying Rodgers is going to suck, but the odds are stacked against him as a QB. Factor in the "replacing a legend" notion and his odds dip even more.



Well, I knew his days in Cincy were likely numbered one way or another, but I thought I'd take a flyer on a guy who was a top five pick not that long ago. He's a Lion now, and will likely be the starter soon. I liked my team at that point, and any positions I had to fill had a pretty much equal tier of guys who would have been a bigger reach, and where still available when my next pick came around.

You have to keep in mind that the "not obvious" (mid-late round) picks' avg pick is arbitrarily lowered by the vast amount of autodraft teams that fill their kicker and d player before going back for reserves.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - ...and Bob's your Uncle!
09/02/2008 @ 10:05:47 AM
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Poop talk begets poop. You get a steaming pile of filth for that comment.
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avatar2345.jpgPackOne - From your first cigarette to your last dyin' day.
09/02/2008 @ 06:32:00 PM
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Sorry I should have phrased it to Carlos probably won't win. My bad.
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2887.gifAlex - 3618 Posts
09/02/2008 @ 08:26:59 PM
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Survey says...X
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/03/2008 @ 08:29:55 AM
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PackOne Wrote - Yesterday @ 06:32:00 PM
Sorry I should have phrased it to Carlos probably won't win. My bad.


See, I can get behind this 100%. I haven't medal'ed in any Fantasy Sport since 2003 (3rd).

I did, however, almost hit for the cycle once in Babe Ruth League back in Iowa. One HR short. (2 steals)
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - Pie Racist
09/03/2008 @ 04:30:54 PM
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http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/09/02/rudis-crazy-day-in-detroit/

Tatum Bell will not be joining Denny Green on the high road.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
09/07/2008 @ 07:35:13 PM
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Brady out for the season? Gee must suck to have picked him 2nd in our draft... especially with A.P. availableemoticon

Culpepper retired a week too early. Culpepper to Moss - it'd be retro!
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - You had me at "Hello"
09/08/2008 @ 09:48:18 AM
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hi-larious!
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avatar2345.jpgPackOne - "That's what I call gettin a piece of Pi"
09/11/2008 @ 01:37:06 PM
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My team sucks.
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