2014 NFL Offseason
03/15/2014 12:09 pm
So, the Packers made a pretty decent splash today, signing Julius Peppers to a very cap-friendly deal. Does this make them Super Bowl contenders, favorites, or an outright lock?
|Sarah - 4091 Posts|
|Isn't he old and washed up? Or is that because he played for the Bears. #FirstPostInAges|
|Scott - 6225 Posts|
Old? Maybe; he's 34. Washed up? He's made the pro-bowl 5 of the last 6 season (missed last season), and 11+ sacks in 2011 and 2012. Perhaps he's on his way down. But in reality, the way his contract is structured, the Packers could cut him after 1 year and they'd be fine. He's only guaranteed $7.5 million dollars.
One of their other options was resigning Ryan Pickett, who is also 34.
|Scott edited this at 03/15/2014 1:42:21 pm|
|Jeremy - 8953 Posts|
|Scott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.|
Doesn't Fit? Apparently he's always wanted to play in a 3-4. And I'm not sure that they really went to wild on paying him. his cap hit this season is only $3.5 million. If he plays out the whole contract the average cap hit is less $10 million. And if he plays out his contract it's probably because he's playing good enough to keep around, making the money being paid him worth while. If he doesn't play good enough this year, they can cut him, and then he has a $5 million cap hit spread out over the next 2 years. And as far as age, that's a legitimate question. He's 34, but hasn't really showed too many signs of slowing down drastically. And the fact that Peppers has virtually never been injured suggests that he is a freak of nature physically and might not succumb to the slow bodily destruction that others players his size normally might. Afterall, the bears didn't cut him because he wasn't any good. They cut him because he was due something like $14 million with an $18 million cap hit for 2014.
In other news, is Letroy Guion any good? Because the Packers just signed him.
Edit: Basically, signing Peppers for what they did is a relatively low risk option that if it doesn't work, they aren't out very much, and if it does work out, then they it would be worth everything they paid and more.
Edit 2: pretty much the only thing that's really true about that meme is the "old" part. It should say "I don't always sign big name free agents, but when I do, they help us win Super Bowls."
|Scott messed with this 7 times, last at 03/18/2014 10:09:27 am|
|Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue.|
|Also, in terms of age, I looked at Reggie White's career numbers. The Packers signed him when he was 32 years old. He played with the Packers until he was 37 and had 16 sacks his final year (he was voted first team all pro that year). So with my sample size of 1, it's not impossible for a freak of nature defensive lineman to continue playing well into his mid-upper 30s.|
|Matt - 3354 Posts|
Jared Allen signs with the Bears.
|Matt edited this at 03/26/2014 8:04:03 am|
|Scott - Resident Tech Support|
|Man, his contract with the Seahawks sure was short. Does this mean that the Vikings are going to sign Ryan Pickett soon?|
|Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman|
Maybe we do just have a different mindset about the whole "butt-hurt-over-a-player-going-to-a-rival" thing.
|Alex - Refactor Mercilessly|
|I assume that most people misread the question as, "If you were a Vikings fan, how upset would you be?"|
|Jeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!?|
|Jon - 1000000 posts (and counting!)|
Is it though? Didn't Miller park get a new scoreboard that's a lot bigger?
|PackOne - Well you can get this lapdance here for free.|
|Peppers will get 9-11 sacks. That's about it. He won't play nearly as many snaps as Reggie. Not even close.|
|Scott - Resident Tech Support|
|9-11 sacks would be wonderful. Because if he gets 9-11 sacks it probably means he was close on 5-10 more. And if that's the case, he probably garnered a few double teams, which means it opened up big holes for Matthews.|
|PackOne - It's a sin that somehow, light is changing to shadow.|
|I think the move sending Raji to play a true nose tackle will really help the LB's too. Allowing him to finally attack, is a good move.|
|Scott - 6225 Posts|
|And my point comparing Peppers to Reggie was merely to point out that age isn't an automatic red flag. One might question signing a 34 year old D-lineman to a 3 year deal because of his age, but then again you could just as easily wonder in the positive sense if there is some reason why this 34 year old D-lineman is worthy of a 3 year contract. "If they thought he was too old to perform, they wouldn't have signed him". I'm not saying that he won't flame out at 35, but it might be wrong to assume that he will. One could also argue something to the effect of "there's a reason teams don't sign 34 year old big guys to 3 year deals very often", to which one could easily respond "you are exactly right, there is a reason teams don't sign 34 year old big guys to 3 year deals very often; the fact that they did sign him should (or at least could) suggest that there is something different about this particular 34 year old big guy." It's like a batter who has a high batting average swinging at the first pitch. Someone might say "he should swing at the first pitch more often, look how good he is when he does", but the response to that is easy: "I have a high success rate when swinging at the first pitch precisely because of how selective I am at when to swing at the first pitch."|