MLB 2008 - The Final Push & the Post Season

09/04/2008 9:09 pm
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Let's end that other monstrous MLB thread that takes forever to load and start a new one. Discuss the road to the playoffs, and the Twins' collapse to miss said playoffs, here.
scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/05/2008 @ 11:57:59 AM
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Good, the large page crashed my computer last night. Evertying just froze up on me.
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scott.jpgScott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue.
09/05/2008 @ 12:01:26 PM
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The Brewers have lost 4 straight. Luckily everyone else near the top of the NL decided to take the first week of August off too so the Brewers have not lost ground to the Cubs and have not given up ground to the Phillies.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - So's your face
09/06/2008 @ 06:15:25 PM
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Twins suck and that's final
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matt.jpgMatt - Washington Bureau Chief
09/06/2008 @ 08:59:47 PM
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Indeed
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/07/2008 @ 06:38:11 AM
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Sheets threw his third CG Shutout of the season. Brewers still have a 4.5 game laed in the wildcard, and trail the Cubs by 4 for the lead in the Central. The Cubs magic number is now 17, and the Brewers magic number is also 17 for the Wild Card.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/08/2008 @ 07:35:29 AM
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I watched Friday Night's win at Brother's with... my brother. Good show.
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2887.gifAlex - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated
09/08/2008 @ 10:15:02 PM
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Brewers, why must you toy with me so? Run off 10 in a row and take charge.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
09/09/2008 @ 11:30:03 PM
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lame
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scott.jpgScott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings
09/10/2008 @ 06:02:41 PM
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Brewers won, Phillies lost, Brewers back to 4 games up in WC.
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2887.gifAlex - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated
09/11/2008 @ 11:23:45 PM
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Why can't the Brewers score runs anymore?
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - Since 1980!
09/12/2008 @ 08:07:46 AM
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They've emotionally quit for the season?
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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
09/12/2008 @ 11:22:03 AM
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They still have a 3 game lead, and there are still a lot of games left. They are in a rough patch right now, no doubt. I really hope they can pull through. Missing the playoffs this season won't sit quite as well with me as last season did.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
09/12/2008 @ 03:26:30 PM
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or the season before that or the season before that or even the season before that...
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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
09/12/2008 @ 04:29:48 PM
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Sarah Wrote - Today @ 04:26:30 PM
or the season before that or the season before that or even the season before that...


I gave this a 0 rating, for unecessary salt-in-the-wound from someone who doesn't like baseball (person has noted that baseball is a wussy sport).

What I meant was, they almost made the playoffs last season, but lost it near the end. I was ok with it because they played meaningful baseball until the last 3 games of the season. if something like this happens two years in a row, after they rented Sabathia for half the season, that won't sit quite so well with me.
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Scott edited this at 09/12/2008 4:30:25 pm
thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - 3354 Posts
09/15/2008 @ 02:31:52 PM
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Yost is out.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
09/15/2008 @ 02:47:22 PM
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Wow, I did not see that coming.
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matt.jpgMatt - 3354 Posts
09/15/2008 @ 02:54:16 PM
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I sort of saw it coming, but I figured they would have waited until they had actually missed the playoffs.
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Matt screwed with this at 09/15/2008 2:58:10 pm
matt.jpgMatt - 3354 Posts
09/15/2008 @ 03:03:42 PM
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To clarify, I figured he was definitely gone if they missed the playoffs this year. I am surprised that they pulled the trigger right now.
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Matt messed with this at 09/15/2008 3:04:30 pm
scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/15/2008 @ 06:00:30 PM
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Well, with 16 games left and the Brewers still in the playoffs (if the season were to end today), I think the top brass realized that this is a now or never situation. They pulled the trigger for Sabathia in early July, and next year they could be without Sheets AND Sabathia. The Brewers are tied for the wild card right now, so they are technically still in the playoffs. At some point something had to shake things up, and apparently firing the manager was that thing. Buster Olney said that of all the MLB GMs, Doug Melvin was probably the least likely of all of them to make a move like this, so in his opinion it was very clearly thought out and probably has been brewing for a little while.

As a fan, I hope they know what they are doing. I've always liked Yost, but I'm a Brewer fan before I'm a Yost fan (or a Braun fan, or a Fielder fan). I'm also the type of fan who gives managers and GMs the benefit of the doubt on almost any case, so I will trust that Doug Melvin knows what he is doing.

Clearly there is risk involved, but here's how I break down the outcomes:
They keep Yost, they miss the playoffs, everyone calls for his head. They keep Yost, they make the playoffs, people are just moreso relieved, and he probably gets fired after the season. They fire Yost, they miss the playoffs, people figure they probably would have missed the playoffs anyway the way things were going. They fire Yost, they MAKE the playoffs, fans give Melvin the GM for life honor.

In other words, if the Brewers miss the playoffs after this, it doesn't change anything because they are on a pretty bad downward spiral. But, if the make the playoffs after this, Melvin looks like a genious. This is a gutsy move, but Melvin can ONLY come out on top in my opinion. I just hope that they make the playoffs.
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scott.jpgScott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone!
09/15/2008 @ 06:34:37 PM
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An interesting thing about stories about managers is that no matter what the story is about (good or bad), the highlights of managers always include (and are usually limited to) the manager arguing with an umpire.
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2887.gifAlex - 3618 Posts
09/15/2008 @ 08:05:11 PM
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Is it really a risky move if Melvin can only come out on top?

I don't think it's quite that simple if they tank now and don't make it, Melvin at least takes a ding for it, maybe he still keeps his job though.

I really don't have anything against Yost, but it did seem like he'd taken this team about as far as he could.

You know, if anything this was the perfect excuse to fire Yost if they didn't want him long-term. Short-term, things were pretty bad so maybe this helps turn the team around, but if it doesn't Yost still isn't going to get much sympathy. But even if they thought Yost still had a chance to lead them to playoffs, maybe they didn't want to bring him back next year and by not giving him the chance to save the season and make a deep post-season run, they effectively stomped out that controversy before it started. Lets hope they stomped real hard and didn't dance around like the Packers did getting rid of Favre.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/15/2008 @ 08:59:54 PM
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It's risky I guess in the sense that they may tank without Yost, but they also might not. It's risky because nothing like this has EVER happened. No team has ever fired their manager this late in the season while STILL in a playoff position.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - "Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else."
09/15/2008 @ 10:00:47 PM
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I'm stunned. I guess I would have had to be watching the brewers a bit closer to have seen it coming. Interesting...
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
09/15/2008 @ 11:13:11 PM
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I guess I didn't say this before, but I'm pretty surprised too. I still think this was more about firing him before next season though.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
09/15/2008 @ 11:29:24 PM
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You thought Brewers-Cubs rivalry was a good one before, the last 2 days and next 2 weeks are going to take it to the next level.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - "The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower."
09/16/2008 @ 07:48:35 AM
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Twins take the ChiSox at home for a 3 gamer, then the Royals, also for a 3 gamer, all at the dome.
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scott.jpgScott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings
09/16/2008 @ 06:45:52 PM
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The Sveum era begins tonight. The Brewers will start their 12 game season sending CC Sabathia to the mound. They could potential get 6 starts out of Sheets and Sabathia down the stretch.
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sarah.jpgSarah - So's your face
09/16/2008 @ 06:55:53 PM
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Go Cubbies!
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
09/16/2008 @ 07:05:40 PM
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So did Liriano decide that now would be a good time to relapse to April type stats?
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2887.gifAlex - Ignorance is bliss to those uneducated
09/16/2008 @ 07:25:09 PM
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Or maybe you catch the ball
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scott.jpgScott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings
09/16/2008 @ 08:23:37 PM
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This is more depressing that any Packers' season (maybe the Super Bowl loss beats it).
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
09/16/2008 @ 09:31:30 PM
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Can Fielder be the all time hitter for the rest of this game?

nevermind
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Alex perfected this at 09/16/2008 10:12:39 pm
matt.jpgMatt - 3354 Posts
09/16/2008 @ 10:37:09 PM
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The Twins suck.
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sarah.jpgSarah - How do you use these things?
09/16/2008 @ 10:46:51 PM
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Wow, just saw the final score of the Twins game. They came all the way back from being down 7-1, only to have Nervous Nathan blow it in the 11th by giving up a 3 run homerun????? Unbelievable.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/17/2008 @ 07:50:05 AM
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I watched it. He didn't do enough twitching before that pitch to make it worthwhile.
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avatar2345.jpgPackOne - Sit down your rockin' the boat.
09/17/2008 @ 10:44:23 PM
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Scott Wrote - Yesterday @ 08:23:37 PM
This is more depressing that any Packers' season (maybe the Super Bowl loss beats it).
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newalex.jpgAlex - Refactor Mercilessly
09/18/2008 @ 05:23:27 PM
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Fine then, just rip my heart out and pour acid on it, see if I care emoticon
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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
09/18/2008 @ 06:23:01 PM
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Alex Wrote - Today @ 06:23:27 PM
Fine then, just rip my heart out and pour acid on it, see if I care emoticon


we should start a support group emoticon

In reality, there is no emoticon for how I feel. emoticon This one comes close.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/18/2008 @ 06:25:43 PM
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I'm watching Mark Wahlberg play Vince Papale in Invincable. I will watch this, THEN try the game.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/18/2008 @ 09:17:10 PM
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Well, looks like the 9th is exciting!
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sarah.jpgSarah - How do you use these things?
09/18/2008 @ 09:26:50 PM
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If Nathan blows this, he's traded.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
09/18/2008 @ 09:32:36 PM
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Twins win, White Sox lose, and all of a sudden everything is right with the world!
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/18/2008 @ 09:33:21 PM
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still 1.5 back though, right? That Twins/Sox series is going to be huge. You folks going at all?
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - How do you use these things?
09/18/2008 @ 09:35:38 PM
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It'd be fun, but it's in the middle of the week. We'll have to see...
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/19/2008 @ 08:17:57 AM
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I know what you mean- I went to a couple of weeknight games when I was still in Eau Claire, making it back to go to work at 7 am the next day.

It would take a whole lot of fanhood to do it, but it might be worth it. Let me know, I haven't been to a game with y'all since last year's opener, and that was just Jerm, Matt and Jon I think
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/19/2008 @ 11:52:06 AM
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Fanhood?!? Your team is fighting for their lives! It is your DUTY as a fan to sacrafice sleep to make it happen.

I went to a Tues night game in Milwaukee once when I lived in Oshkosh for a summer during college. They played the Yankees. It was totally worth it.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
09/19/2008 @ 12:49:25 PM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 11:52:06 AM
Fanhood?!? Your team is fighting for their lives! It is your DUTY as a fan to sacrafice sleep to make it happen.
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Just for the record, I'm not the one against going to a weeknight game...
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - I hate our freedoms
09/19/2008 @ 12:50:26 PM
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Who is then? Hooch?

Edit: His love of the twins is well documented.

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Jeremy screwed with this at 09/19/2008 12:51:55 pm
vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - www.digi.com
09/19/2008 @ 01:16:20 PM
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emoticonemoticon
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sarah.jpgSarah - So's your face
09/19/2008 @ 05:10:39 PM
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The Twins are on ESPN tonight? That's weird, but i'll take it.
blacked outemoticon
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Sarah messed with this at 09/19/2008 6:11:30 pm
scott.jpgScott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on?
09/19/2008 @ 09:45:21 PM
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They are on Fox tomorrow. So are the Brewers. Unfortunately, the Twins play the Rays, so the Brewers probably won't be carried down here, and because they are on Fox I won't be able to watch them on MLB.TV. Oh well, Sabathia will win, and the pitching matchup looks to favor the Braves over the Mets, so that would help the Brewers.

Go Rays, White Sox, Brewers, Braves, and Marlins. Man, playoff runs create strange allegiances.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - So's your face
09/19/2008 @ 10:27:45 PM
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We will get the stupid Brewers because heaven forbid we be allowed to watch a team we can't see every single frickin' day.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/20/2008 @ 06:32:26 AM
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Well, you gotta consider the Brewer Fans in Wisconsin that don't have cable! Maybe it's the only game they've been able to watch all year.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - How do you use these things?
09/20/2008 @ 08:57:09 AM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 06:32:26 AM
Well, you gotta consider the Brewer Fans in Wisconsin that don't have cable! Maybe it's the only game they've been able to watch all year.


Then that's their problem.
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scott.jpgScott - On your mark...get set...Terrible!
09/20/2008 @ 09:21:28 AM
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Sarah Wrote - Today @ 09:57:09 AM
Scott Wrote - Today @ 07:32:26 AM
Well, you gotta consider the Brewer Fans in Wisconsin that don't have cable! Maybe it's the only game they've been able to watch all year.
Then that's their problem.


Actually, it appears to be your problem. emoticon
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - So's your face
09/20/2008 @ 09:27:06 AM
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We need to get dish. Go Reds!
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/20/2008 @ 04:59:50 PM
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I'm still trying to figure out where this deep animosity towards the Brewers comes from. I mean, they haven't won anything ever, they are on a very long stretch of being a threat to anyone, and now they have a chance to make the playoffs in a different league of the team that you apparently follow.

I'm watching the Rays-Twins game right now. Things don't look good for the Twins. While I have grown a bit towards wishing the Rays well, I normally would be hoping the Twins could pull it out (but for one un-named NutCanner).
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
09/20/2008 @ 07:47:29 PM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 04:59:50 PM
I'm still trying to figure out where this deep animosity towards the Brewers comes from. I mean, they haven't won anything ever, they are on a very long stretch of being a threat to anyone, and now they have a chance to make the playoffs in a different league of the team that you apparently follow.

I'm watching the Rays-Twins game right now. Things don't look good for the Twins. While I have grown a bit towards wishing the Rays well, I normally would be hoping the Twins could pull it out (but for one un-named NutCanner).


It's mostly just to spite you. We watched the Twins game and it was awful, but the Brewers game was on as well and kind of made up for it.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/20/2008 @ 09:35:57 PM
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I figured that. Normally I would be rooting for the Twins, but I was definitely rooting for the Rays to get to the playoffs. I might actually go to a playoff game if I can get tickets. It would be my first ever playoff game. And, if the Twins ended up winning their division the Rays would face the Twins in the first series.
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newalex.jpgAlex - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose
09/20/2008 @ 10:19:42 PM
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Baseball is stupid
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flower .jpgPackOne - Check yourself before you wriggity wreck yourself.
09/20/2008 @ 11:03:37 PM
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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
09/21/2008 @ 06:16:15 PM
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No matter how good/bad/ugly the Brewers are, baseball is never stupid.

In other news, the Brewers won, the Mets lost, Brewers are 1.5 games behind NY for the wild card spot. The Mets have a 4 game series against the cubs and the Brewers have a 3 game series against the Pirates. I hope the Cubs don't take it easy now that they've won the division.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
09/21/2008 @ 11:14:41 PM
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Fine then, the Brewers are stupid and baseball isn't. Why in the world did they send out CC on 3 days rest? The pitching has been ok lately, it's the offense that's the problem. The Cubs will probably forfeit just to spite the Brewers.

Comments made on the cusp of the team flushing their season down the drain should be immune from turd ratings.
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
09/22/2008 @ 07:50:52 AM
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Have the cubs already clinched home field advantage?

The Brewers seem to have over-utilize Sabathia this past month. Leaving him in games is one thing, pitching him 3 times in a week is another thing.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - What the F@#$ am I being arrested fo?
09/22/2008 @ 09:01:27 AM
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How many years do they have him for? Maybe all they care about is now.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/22/2008 @ 09:02:10 AM
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Alex Wrote - Yesterday @ 11:14:41 PM
Comments made on the cusp of the team flushing their season down the drain should be immune from turd ratings.


Had you made them about the team and not about baseball in general, perhaps some slack would have been cut.
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2887.gifAlex - 3618 Posts
09/22/2008 @ 01:11:57 PM
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Carlos44ec Wrote - Today @ 09:02:10 AM
Alex Wrote - Yesterday @ 11:14:41 PM
Comments made on the cusp of the team flushing their season down the drain should be immune from turd ratings.


Had you made them about the team and not about baseball in general, perhaps some slack would have been cut.


Must be election season, because taken in context (of this thread, of other baseball threads, of this site in general) it's fairly obvious that I was just upset about the Brewers losing again.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
09/22/2008 @ 01:53:12 PM
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At any rate, the real final push in the fantasy league is going down to the wire and getting no press at all. Will 1st half dominating Meow hold on to a precarious lead after an improbable comeback to reclaim it from the 2nd half dominating Hibbleton? The last weeks have seen a couple 3-5 point swings in a day and there is currently only 1 point separating the two teams!!!
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - Knuckle Sammich
09/22/2008 @ 02:53:00 PM
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Alex Wrote - Today @ 01:11:57 PM
Carlos44ec Wrote - Today @ 09:02:10 AM
Alex Wrote - Yesterday @ 11:14:41 PM
Comments made on the cusp of the team flushing their season down the drain should be immune from turd ratings.
Had you made them about the team and not about baseball in general, perhaps some slack would have been cut.
Must be election season, because taken in context (of this thread, of other baseball threads, of this site in general) it's fairly obvious that I was just upset about the Brewers losing again.


Taken in the context of the general conversation of this thread, the assumption was not far off the mark.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/22/2008 @ 02:55:00 PM
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Alex Wrote - Today @ 01:53:12 PM
At any rate, the real final push in the fantasy league is going down to the wire and getting no press at all. Will 1st half dominating Meow hold on to a precarious lead after an improbable comeback to reclaim it from the 2nd half dominating Hibbleton? The last weeks have seen a couple 3-5 point swings in a day and there is currently only 1 point separating the two teams!!!


I was dead last, then traded Jeter to Micah- got as high as 3rd then crashed again.
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avatar2345.jpgPackOne - 1528 Posts
09/23/2008 @ 05:35:52 PM
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Do I dare say anything about the Brewers right here. Oh well, too late.
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scott.jpgScott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone!
09/23/2008 @ 05:58:17 PM
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PackOne Wrote - Today @ 06:35:52 PM
Do I dare say anything about the Brewers right here. Oh well, too late.


It is best not to talk about the Brewers right now. If you don't talk about them, they can't hear you.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/23/2008 @ 09:27:38 PM
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Can any of you see the game? I bet you're at BW3 watching right now. Delmon Young and Kubel go back to back HR, Kubel with two on the game thus far.

Is this what we can anticipate?
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - So's your face
09/23/2008 @ 09:29:02 PM
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I wish. I wanted to go to the game. We just saw the update on Baseball tonight and I'm watching it on the onlines.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
09/23/2008 @ 09:55:37 PM
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Good game, good game, good game....
Stupid Brewers tying it up. Just can't have it both ways I guess.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/24/2008 @ 07:36:42 AM
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Brewers have any realistic chance? I looked, they're 10, 11 games back from ChiCubs- how's the wild card?
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scott.jpgScott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone!
09/24/2008 @ 07:49:49 AM
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The Brewers are 1.0 games back from the Mets.
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children.
09/24/2008 @ 09:30:04 AM
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Both the Twins and Brewers have elimination numbers of 5. (Brewers for wildcard, Twins for division) The Twins have to be especially careful because theirs goes down by 2 with a loss in the next couple games. (Though, obviously wins "count double" as well.)
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/24/2008 @ 10:14:31 AM
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Twins have no chance at Wild Card. it's all or nothin!
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
09/24/2008 @ 05:39:09 PM
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Well considering they lost out for the Wild Card game several games ago and the Red Sox won it, I guess technically you're right.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - ...and Bob's your Uncle!
09/24/2008 @ 06:42:03 PM
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I didn't mean that they were out of the wild card race to be anything new and exciting, just that there is no fallback option. It's "win the whole [stinkin] thing"

Notice how I quoted the for-TV version of Major League? I was saying "Who are these [stinkin] guys" for the whole first month. That and the whole- "Is that you, Tolbert" bit.
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2887.gifAlex - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose
09/24/2008 @ 10:05:13 PM
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Scott Wrote - Yesterday @ 05:58:17 PM
PackOne Wrote - Yesterday @ 05:35:52 PM
Do I dare say anything about the Brewers right here. Oh well, too late.


It is best not to talk about the Brewers right now. If you don't talk about them, they can't hear you.


Sssssshhhhhhh...
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09/25/2008 @ 06:34:53 AM
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Did I see "Homer Hankees" in the Brewers crowd last night?
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
09/25/2008 @ 07:50:55 AM
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Probably, they were swinging them around Tuesday night, but were calling them something that was slightly different.
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scott.jpgScott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone!
09/25/2008 @ 10:42:47 AM
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Rally towel. How original.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/25/2008 @ 11:51:53 AM
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It started in '87. Not sure anyone claimed originality, but atleast we have one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer_Hanky
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scott.jpgScott - Resident Tech Support
09/26/2008 @ 07:26:22 AM
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How often do you see a walk-off Grand Slam? Not very. That was awesome last night.
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sarah.jpgSarah - So's your face
09/26/2008 @ 07:49:37 AM
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I saw it and wasn't that impressed. BUT I did watch the Twins come back from being down 6-1 to win it all!! THAT was exciting. emoticon
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/26/2008 @ 10:15:42 AM
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Grand Slam in the bottom of the ninth to win it, not that impressive? I suppose rallying from 5 runs down is pretty impressive, but a GS is always impressive. Especially from a guy who can barely swing a bat because of a strange ribcage ailment. So there.

It comes down to this: The Brewers have 3 games against the Cubs and the Mets have 3 games against the Marlins. In reality, this is a "play-in" series.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
09/26/2008 @ 10:26:59 AM
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Well, it's sort of anti-climactic in its excessive-ness. It's not like the Brewers were down 3 runs. Any hit wins the game.
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scott.jpgScott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings
09/26/2008 @ 11:24:30 AM
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Oh come on. I must be the only one who thinks a GS in the bottom of the ninth to win it is exciting.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
09/26/2008 @ 11:30:02 AM
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Well, it's exciting to win in the bottom of the ninth. It's just in this case the fact that it was a Grand Slam is pretty meaningless.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/26/2008 @ 11:33:32 AM
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Do we over-analyze everything?
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09/26/2008 @ 11:44:42 AM
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I'm not sure what's being over-analyzed. Would that hit not have been more exciting, or meant more, had the Brewers been down 3 runs?
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scott.jpgScott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue.
09/26/2008 @ 12:31:48 PM
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It would, but a grandslam is a grandslam, and a grandslam in the 9th inning, regardless of the score, is cool. Yes, being down by 3 runs would increase the exciting value on the "sport-excitement scale", whereas a walk with the bases loaded with the score tied, while still producing the same results (a win), would register less exciting. I created an "excitometer" to measure these sorts of things, but I can't upload it now. Then we won't have to debate the excitement of certain events, because the meter will tell us.
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IMG_3063[1].jpgjthompto - 209 Posts
09/26/2008 @ 03:45:49 PM
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Grandslams are always exciting and so are walkoff wins, put them together in this crucial time of the season and its even more exciting. But with that said I don't think the Brewers walkoff was any more exciting than the Twins walkoff just because it was a Grand Slam.
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jon.jpgJon - 2847 Posts
09/26/2008 @ 05:00:20 PM
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jthompto Wrote - Today @ 03:45:49 PM
Grandslams are always exciting and so are walkoff wins, put them together in this crucial time of the season and its even more exciting. But with that said I don't think the Brewers walkoff was any more exciting than the Twins walkoff just because it was a Grand Slam.


I agree.

Also, one of the coolest sports moments I ever watched in person was a walkoff grandslam. The Eau Claire Express were down by one run in the bottom of the 10th in the middle of a playoff chase and Dominic Piazza (no relation to Mike) hit a grand slam into the pine trees in right field of Carson Park. It was amazing. It was the first grandslam in the team's history too, so that was cool.
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jon.jpgJon - 2847 Posts
09/26/2008 @ 05:01:53 PM
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Also, the excitometer is a great idea scott. Although I doubt it will solve anything, but at least we can all weigh in with our numerical idea of how exciting something is.
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sarah.jpgSarah - So's your face
09/26/2008 @ 07:56:03 PM
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emoticon Why can't things just go the Twins way???
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
09/26/2008 @ 10:21:44 PM
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I'm still not getting excited.....with a win tomorrow and a Mets loss, the Brewers could clinch the wild card tomorrow. But don't tell them that.

Ben Sheets Tomorrow....then CC Sabathia if needed on Sunday.
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09/27/2008 @ 10:26:22 AM
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CC needs his rest.
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09/27/2008 @ 11:03:33 AM
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Indeed. It would be very beneficial for the Brewers and CC if the Brewers would clinch today. If CC must pitch on Sunday, then he most likely would only get to pitch once in the divisional series. However, if he did not have to pitch, he would be available for game 1 and potentially game 4 or 5.
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09/27/2008 @ 06:45:33 PM
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The Twins suck.
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09/28/2008 @ 04:35:50 PM
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ZOMG!!!!!! Why did they leave CC in so long? Playoffs for the first time since I was 9 months old! Who has tickets?
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - So's your face
09/28/2008 @ 04:49:08 PM
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I have tickets to the Twins games, does that count?
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09/28/2008 @ 05:35:16 PM
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Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs! Playoffs!

26 years is history! Bring on the postseason. I have a hundred thoughts in my head, expect an article about it later.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
09/28/2008 @ 08:31:21 PM
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Scott Wrote - 09/26/2008 @ 07:26:22 AM
How often do you see a walk-off Grand Slam? Not very. That was awesome last night.


I was sitting at Jersey's in EC watching both Twins and Brewers win and USC lose. Great night!
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09/28/2008 @ 10:29:59 PM
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Playoffs! (and that mathematical sign for repeating)
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09/29/2008 @ 10:09:52 AM
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For the record, I will be pulling for the White Sox to lose. I would like to see the Twins in the playoffs as well (they play the Rays if they get in).
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2887.gifAlex - I don't need to get steady I know just how I feel
09/29/2008 @ 12:41:51 PM
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Alex Wrote - 09/22/2008 @ 01:53:12 PM
At any rate, the real final push in the fantasy league is going down to the wire and getting no press at all. Will 1st half dominating Meow hold on to a precarious lead after an improbable comeback to reclaim it from the 2nd half dominating Hibbleton? The last weeks have seen a couple 3-5 point swings in a day and there is currently only 1 point separating the two teams!!!


Good game, I failed on SB down the stretch.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
09/29/2008 @ 07:23:58 PM
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That was not cool. I feel very uneasy about tomorrow.emoticon
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09/29/2008 @ 07:29:33 PM
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forget it. I was accused of being sick today so I could watch the game. Wrong, but clever!
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scott.jpgScott - If you aren't enough without it, you'll never be enough with it.
09/29/2008 @ 07:32:41 PM
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The Brewers online shop has sold out of Wild Card hats more than once already. I went on yesterday, and there weren't there. I went on this afternoon, and they were available. I went on tonight to order a hat, and they were sold out.
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09/29/2008 @ 07:38:39 PM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 07:32:41 PM
The Brewers online shop has sold out of Wild Card hats more than once already. I went on yesterday, and there weren't there. I went on this afternoon, and they were available. I went on tonight to order a hat, and they were sold out.


So nobody thinks they'll get past Philly?
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
09/29/2008 @ 08:01:46 PM
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Ok, the "friendly banter" should hopefully bow to the totally euphoria that some of us are feeling.

Seriously though, the Brewers might have well just won the World Series that's how excited I still am. However, With Gallardo and Sabathia pitching game 1 and 2, I'm pretty confident that the Brewers will put up a worthy fight. Honestly, I expect them to win this battle. The Phillies are good, no doubt, but they only finished a game or two better than the Brewers. They have a potent offense, but the so do the Brewers. I'm not going to analyze this series, but I just want in on the action. I think only the Super Bowl victory for the Packers matches this level of excitement for me.

We're NOT DONE YET!
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IMG_3063[1].jpgjthompto - 209 Posts
09/30/2008 @ 07:04:04 AM
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I didn't even know they made Wild Card hats. But I supose if you haven't made the playoffs in 26 years, it's nice to have something. Now onto the Twins game today.
It kind of sucks that even though the Twins won the head to head series against the Sox, 10-8, that they now have to play in Chicago to decide this thing. A coin toss determined that a bout a month ago. The Twins played this long baseball season and finished in a tie for first only to have a coin toss possibly decide thier fate. On the other hand they only have thier sevles to blame, one more win vs KC and we would be talking about the series agains the Rays.
I am not overly confident in a Twins victory tonight given the circumstances, but I hope they can pull it out, it would suck to have the season end this way.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - So's your face
09/30/2008 @ 08:06:18 AM
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That road series was awful. If they wouldn't have blown a 7-0 lead to the Mariners, we would not have to worry about tonight either. So many what-if's. It all came down to that ridiculous AJ call.


Sarah Wrote - 08/25/2008 @ 05:16:54 PM
If the Twins lose the division by 1/2 game, I know exactly who to blame. Stupid AJ, even when he's not playing directly against us, he's still screwing things up.

http://tampabay.rays.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080824&content_id=3363188&vkey=news_tb&fext=.jsp&c_id=tb

Ridiculous. I saw it happen and it was AJ who ran into the other guy. Makes me mad. Everything was going right yesterday, Twins were winning, White Sox were losing, and the Brewers blew a lead.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - Since 1980!
10/01/2008 @ 08:05:28 AM
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Either an AJ call or a darned coin flip. This wouldn't have happened to us at home.

I suppose I should say that I never expected the Twins to do this well, and then disclaim it by still saying I expected better in the end...?
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IMG_3063[1].jpgjthompto - 209 Posts
10/01/2008 @ 11:26:33 AM
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In the previous 4 division titles since 2002, the Twins were always the agressor, they got a lead in the division and kept on winning. This year, the division was theirs for the taking. The Tigers were awful from the start, Cleveland gave up in May and the Sox were playing as mediocre as ever. The Twins didn't jump on the chance, and let the divsion slip away. Blackburn pitched like an all star and the Offense couldn't pick him up. Morneau should definitly not win the MVP. He picked the worst time to start slumping.

I like the starters for next year, but they need signifigant upgrades in the bullpen. And better players at 3B and SS.
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10/01/2008 @ 08:39:51 PM
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Hopefully, Pat Neshek will be back and healthy in the pen next year. Also, Jose Mijares looked pretty good in his short time with the club this year and will probably have a good chance to make the club out of spring training next year.
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10/01/2008 @ 09:37:42 PM
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History repeats itself...

http://www.nutcan.com/blog.php?content_id=531&subject=Brewers
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
10/02/2008 @ 05:18:39 PM
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I don't know what the record is, but everytime I keep an eye/ear on the Brewers the other team walks in at least one run. I swear, the Twins would be a 120 win team in the NL.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - How do you use these things?
10/02/2008 @ 05:59:13 PM
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I've changed my mind, Grand Slams are fun to watch.
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10/02/2008 @ 08:38:03 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 05:18:39 PM
I don't know what the record is, but everytime I keep an eye/ear on the Brewers the other team walks in at least one run. I swear, the Twins would be a 120 win team in the NL.


I know, right? You'd think they could get a hit with the bases loaded once in a while and actually score some runs, but noooo, it's just walk one in and strike out the next guy.
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10/02/2008 @ 10:39:34 PM
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We're in trouble.
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10/03/2008 @ 11:02:49 PM
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Scott Wrote - 09/29/2008 @ 07:32:41 PM
The Brewers online shop has sold out of Wild Card hats more than once already. I went on yesterday, and there weren't there. I went on this afternoon, and they were available. I went on tonight to order a hat, and they were sold out.


I hope they have a good return policy.


Seriously though, I was talking to Matt yesterday about how quickly the postseason can unfold. You go through this 162ish game season and then game one happens, then you haven't even digested it fully and boom, game two and next thing you know you're close to elimination. I remember when the Twins were in and not doing so well last time, and I could barely believe how quickly things happened.
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goodlooking.jpgcraig - 131 Posts
10/03/2008 @ 11:41:06 PM
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Well, there's no reason that ALL rounds of the playoffs shouldn't be best of seven, They play a 162 game season, why make the first round of the playoffs be a best of five series? It's a decision that can't be defended. The rest of the playoffs is best of 7. So you can lose 3 straight games in the playoffs and still win it all, just make sure it's in the second round? It's just wrong.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
10/04/2008 @ 12:05:17 AM
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I do enjoy how shocked people are at how improbable coming back from down 0-2 is. Even if you were flipping a coin there's only a 12.5% chance. Much less when you consider that let's say the order of who's home and who's away was randomly scrambled. There's still likely going to be a trend there because, while flukes happen, it stands to reason that if a team wins the first two they're just the better team. On top of THAT these aren't random. It's a seeded playoff system, and the better team opens at home.
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?"
10/05/2008 @ 03:16:20 PM
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So there it was Brewers fans. You waited your whole life, and fretted all season, for those 4 games. I hope it was worth it.
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2887.gifAlex - 3618 Posts
10/05/2008 @ 07:09:46 PM
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Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 03:16:20 PM
So there it was Brewers fans. You waited your whole life, and fretted all season, for those 4 games. I hope it was worth it.


Just wait till next year...winning season, then making playoffs, next year has to been winning the 1st round, then year after that getting to World Series and year after that finally a World Series victory.
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10/05/2008 @ 09:09:46 PM
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And what borderline aces do you foresee coming available that you can trade away prospects halfway through the season for in the next 3 seasons?

It's fairly likely this was your shot.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
10/05/2008 @ 09:45:45 PM
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Wow hittin' 'em hard when they've barely had time to grieve.
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2887.gifAlex - 3618 Posts
10/05/2008 @ 10:06:10 PM
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The Brewers are up to 15th in payroll and clearly spending more money doesn't guarantee anything but there's no reason that they can't remain competitive. 10 years ago they really needed to catch lightening in a bottle but I think success could be less fleeting for them nowadays.

Most likely Sheets and Sabathia are gone. Sabathia was huge in getting them to playoffs this year, but they were doing good before they traded for him too so it's not the end of the world. Plus they went almost the whole year without Yovani. He's fully capable of replacing what they have gotten from Sheets out of the last 3 years. So there's your borderline ace without even having to trade (even though they should have propects to spare after getting 4 extra 1st round picks).

It looks like most of the team will be some sort of free-agent or arbitration eligible or something according to this site: http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/milwaukee-brewers.html. So they'll probably have to give raises to some guys but they should have some money left over as well to pick up some pitchers. Or else they might have to trade a young position player for pitching (like Prince). It will certainly be an interesting offseason for them.

Also, let it be fully noted in the annals of the Nutcan that the Cubs fell even harder then the Brewers in the postseason. That's something of a consolation prize anyway.

And on the basis of mainly this thread, I hope the Tigers get their underachieving selves together next year and along with the division champion WSox, surprising Royals, and the Cliff Lee's pound the snot out of the Twins.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
10/05/2008 @ 10:19:23 PM
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And even though I'm sure no one cares, here's my order of rooting for the remaining teams: Phillies (for Jenkins), Rays (for underdogs, and Longoria was good for my fantasy team), White Sox (for Griffey), Angels, Dodgers, Red Sox (the evil empire's twin brother)
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fry6beeu9.jpgJeremy - 8953 Posts
10/05/2008 @ 11:34:49 PM
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Well, I didn't mean to "take a shot," it's just that without Sheets and Sabathia, that's going to hurt them. It's obviously possible that they are still going to be contenders in their division without them. (See Twins Re:Santana and Hunter)

It's just that is takes a Sabathia to take a team to the next level.

At any rate, there's also a sizable chance that this was the season the window that the Brewers had been building towards for a few years now was open, they mortgaged their future a bit, and lost, and now that window could slam shut.
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2887.gifAlex - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret
10/06/2008 @ 10:10:19 PM
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Regardless of your intentions, you kicked when we were down. Best me in a fair fight and you'll get nothing but respect. Pour salt in my open wounds and become my mortal enemy. Plus, in this case, you're guilty by association anyway.

I will concede that they may need to take a step backward next year, because they could have massive roster changes by opening day. But if nothing else at least they can rebuild around Braun, who is signed long term at a reasonable price and who is probably the best player they've had since Yount.

Go Angels.
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scott.jpgScott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue.
10/07/2008 @ 10:43:27 AM
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that molitor guy was pretty good too.
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10/08/2008 @ 05:06:49 AM
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Scott Wrote - Yesterday @ 10:43:27 AM
that molitor guy was pretty good too.


You know what's kind of strange? (But likely not interesting to many, so don't complain)
Way back in the earlier days of the popularized internet, back in the mid to late 90's, Matt and I logged on to a web chat, or online chat or live chat, or whatever they used to call it when a celebrity would talk to us commoners online, to talk to Twins manager Tom Kelly.

At some point, someone asked him who the best player he managed was. He gave a full answer, but basically said Kirby Puckett. But he talked about how good Molitor was too. But at the end he said he'd have to go with Puckett. And then he finished with almost those exact same words. But I think it might have been, "That Molitor guy isn't too bad either" or something like that.

Anyway, Matt submitted a question too, and it got asked and answered. Tom Kelly even said, "good question," actually, I think he may have said, "very good question." It was about Terry Steinbach coming to the Twins and what that would add to the team or something like that.

We were so proud and excited that we printed off some of the chat and posted it up by the computer. So for years, I would see that quote about Puckett and Molitor when I would use the computer. So when I saw Scott's quote, I thought for a second it was a reference to that before realizing that you had no knowledge of it in the first place, so it probably wasn't a reference to that at all.

I feel like if I looked long and hard enough, I might be able to track down that chat in some form or another. Then we could all be fulfilled.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
10/08/2008 @ 09:39:58 AM
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You just think I have no knowledge of it.
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2887.gifAlex - 3618 Posts
10/12/2008 @ 11:09:44 AM
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I listened to the 9th and 10th with the TV on and my eyes closed last night but the sleep timer kicked in at midnight and I couldn't fight back the sleep any longer. The Rays won in the 11th, but at the rate they were going that inning probably didn't end until 2 in the morning so I'm ok with missing it. Came up with another reason to root for the Rays, Gabe Gross always seemed like a good guy when he was on the Brewers.
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sarah.jpgSarah - So's your face
10/12/2008 @ 11:28:59 AM
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It ended at about 12:30. I ended up watch the last inning and a half. I'm just happy the Rays won. I was flipping channels at like 11:40 and didn't understand how the game was still in the 9th. Didn't it start at 7? Must've been some slow trots around the bases for all those homeruns?
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
10/12/2008 @ 01:50:02 PM
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Speaking of Gabe Gross, his walk up music when comes to bat is Blessed Be Your Name. I know at least Jon will probably find that interesting, if not others as well.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - ...and Bob's your Uncle!
10/12/2008 @ 04:04:19 PM
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Alex Wrote - Today @ 11:09:44 AM
Came up with another reason to root for the Rays, Gabe Gross always seemed like a good guy when he was on the Brewers.


Grant Balfour, former Twin
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
10/12/2008 @ 05:16:07 PM
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Carlos44ec Wrote - Today @ 04:04:19 PM
Alex Wrote - Today @ 11:09:44 AM
Came up with another reason to root for the Rays, Gabe Gross always seemed like a good guy when he was on the Brewers.


Grant Balfour, former Twin


And Brewer, he came back through their minor league system.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - ...and Bob's your Uncle!
10/12/2008 @ 06:39:45 PM
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cool! (is he a two-fer then?)
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flower .jpgPackOne - 1528 Posts
10/14/2008 @ 01:12:40 PM
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Are the Brewers still in it?
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newalex.jpgAlex - Refactor Mercilessly
10/14/2008 @ 01:23:03 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3643010
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10/15/2008 @ 10:02:18 PM
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That's a good story.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
10/16/2008 @ 01:25:01 PM
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Can we have a birthday party for John Rocker tomorrow?
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10/16/2008 @ 07:26:48 PM
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No
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - So's your face
10/17/2008 @ 08:04:11 AM
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The Red Sox won last night??? How does that even happen?? They were getting crushed! Aargh
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - 2078 Posts
10/17/2008 @ 08:25:11 AM
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It's amazing. atleast the Rays are still up by one and last night didn't tie it.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - "Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else."
10/17/2008 @ 08:25:46 AM
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Carlos44ec Wrote - Yesterday @ 01:25:01 PM
Can we have a birthday party for John Rocker tomorrow?


Here's me, not celebrating. I hate democracy.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - How do you use these things?
10/18/2008 @ 07:25:14 PM
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How wacky is it that TBS is having technical difficulties and can't show the Red Sox/Rays game? What I mean is that this is probably their biggest rating getter of the year, and they are showing reruns of some show. Or were. It's fixed now and this post is now meaningless.
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10/20/2008 @ 07:12:12 AM
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I think its safe to say that the Rays come out the winner of the big trade with the Twins last winter. Watching Matt Garza pitch his second good start and carry his team to the World series kind of hurts. It would have been nice to have him on the Twins staff this year. Delmon Young better turn out to be 40 hr guy next season.
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vignette.bmpCarlos44ec - "Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else."
10/26/2008 @ 09:20:33 PM
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There are some TERRIBLE calls this game.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - How do you use these things?
10/29/2008 @ 08:51:46 PM
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So any thoughts on the World Series? Looks like it could be game over. I suppose both teams are deserving, so I don't really care who wins.
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face.bmpCarlos44ec - Knuckle Sammich
10/30/2008 @ 07:32:01 AM
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Game over, not pleased.
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
10/30/2008 @ 08:52:49 AM
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That was a pretty exciting 3 inning game. I think it redeemed an otherwise lackluster world series.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
10/30/2008 @ 01:29:46 PM
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They need to get rid of the extra off days and keep the playoffs moving along. This year it bled well into football season, hockey season, basketball season, cold rainy weather season, etc.

At some point in the Championship series I decided I'd rather see the Rays win, but I didn't care too much.
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10/30/2008 @ 04:53:17 PM
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Alex Wrote - Today @ 01:29:46 PM
They need to get rid of the extra off days and keep the playoffs moving along. This year it bled well into football season, hockey season, basketball season, cold rainy weather season, etc.



Isn't that every season?
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
10/30/2008 @ 05:35:39 PM
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I guess last year it only went 4 games and didn't finish till the 28th. It's just dumb that a season based on having a game pretty much every day suddenly has all these off days in the postseason.
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IMG_3063[1].jpgjthompto - 209 Posts
10/31/2008 @ 07:01:03 AM
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Alex Wrote - 12/31/1969 @ 06:00:00 PM
I guess last year it only went 4 games and didn't finish till the 28th. It's just dumb that a season based on having a game pretty much every day suddenly has all these off days in the postseason.


It's also dumb that a summer game plays it's most important games of the year in a winter enviroment. They need to add some double headers during the season, push the end of the season up a couple weeks to avoid this.
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sarah.jpgSarah - 4091 Posts
11/07/2008 @ 07:55:22 AM
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WTG Joe! (And T-Hunt)

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3686717
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - 3354 Posts
11/12/2008 @ 02:10:07 AM
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Well this sucks:

Neshek out for 2009
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thumbnailCAW1I0O3.gifMatt - Washington Bureau Chief
11/12/2008 @ 02:43:52 AM
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From the Neshek story:

"When Neshek was first injured in May, he received a second opinion from Dr. James Andrews, who agreed with the Twins recommendation to rehab the injury, instead of having surgery."

Now it's probably just a case of "we only hear about things when they go wrong, not when they go right", but doesn't it seem like the rehab option almost never works? You might as well just get the surgery right away and save yourself some trouble.
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11/12/2008 @ 07:32:27 AM
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11/12/2008 @ 12:16:11 PM
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I bought a Tim Lincecum jersey/shirt back in July when I was in San Francisco. Dividends!
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2887.gifAlex - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret
11/12/2008 @ 01:29:47 PM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 12:16:11 PM
I bought a Tim Lincecum jersey/shirt back in July when I was in San Francisco. Dividends!


You just sold it on Ebay for more than you bought it for?
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IMG_3063[1].jpgjthompto - 209 Posts
11/12/2008 @ 04:58:46 PM
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So will the Brewers trade J.J. Hardy? If they do will it be to the Twins? What do you think they will want for him?
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
11/12/2008 @ 08:17:54 PM
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I hope not. Ditch Weeks and move Hardy to 2nd. But if they did, Twins have any extra 3rds or relievers?
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11/12/2008 @ 11:13:14 PM
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I'm pretty sure Matt will let you have Punto for whatever change you have on you.
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11/13/2008 @ 12:31:14 AM
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If Punto goes, does Sarah disown the Twins like she did the Packers? emoticon
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11/13/2008 @ 07:34:34 AM
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Score!
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11/13/2008 @ 08:05:33 AM
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Matt Wrote - Today @ 12:31:14 AM
If Punto goes, does Sarah disown the Twins like she did the Packers? emoticon


Did I disown them after they got rid of Mientkiewiz?
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jeremy.jpgJeremy - No one's gay for Moleman
11/13/2008 @ 09:54:31 AM
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Yes, a little. You didn't like Justin Morneau for a while at least.
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11/13/2008 @ 12:26:45 PM
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Gardy and the majority of the coaching staff got 2 year extensions. WOOHOO!
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scott.jpgScott - 6225 Posts
11/13/2008 @ 01:04:04 PM
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Alex Wrote - Yesterday @ 02:29:47 PM
Scott Wrote - Yesterday @ 01:16:11 PM
I bought a Tim Lincecum jersey/shirt back in July when I was in San Francisco. Dividends!
You just sold it on Ebay for more than you bought it for?


More like "moral" dividends, which is similar to a moral victory. Because he then went on to win the Cy Young.
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newalex.jpgAlex - Who controls the past now controls the future
11/13/2008 @ 01:48:08 PM
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Torres retired. So that ends the debate about whether he could be the closer again even though he stunk towards the end of the year. Hoffman maybe?
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11/13/2008 @ 02:50:33 PM
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Sarah Wrote - Today @ 08:05:33 AM
Matt Wrote - Today @ 12:31:14 AM
If Punto goes, does Sarah disown the Twins like she did the Packers? emoticon
Did I disown them after they got rid of Mientkiewiz?


Of all people, I never thought it would be you who would misspell his name (forgot the c).
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11/13/2008 @ 02:57:53 PM
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11/13/2008 @ 05:47:38 PM
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Matt Wrote - Today @ 02:50:33 PM
Sarah Wrote - Today @ 08:05:33 AM
Matt Wrote - Today @ 12:31:14 AM
If Punto goes, does Sarah disown the Twins like she did the Packers? emoticon
Did I disown them after they got rid of Mientkiewiz?


Of all people, I never thought it would be you who would misspell his name (forgot the c).


Dang. Mientkiewicz. My fingers must've been going too fast and I didn't even bother to look. emoticon
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jon.jpgJon - 1 bajillion posts
11/14/2008 @ 01:26:33 AM
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Yeah the Brewers could never go wrong with a closer whose best days are behind him.
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11/14/2008 @ 07:42:21 AM
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awesome!
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scott.jpgScott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue.
11/14/2008 @ 10:17:13 AM
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Silver Slugger Award Winners Ryan Braun wins his first Silver Slugger Award.
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11/14/2008 @ 01:52:58 PM
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Jon Wrote - Today @ 01:26:33 AM


Yeah the Brewers could never go wrong with a closer whose best days are behind him.


Well, there's no other obvious choices. ESPN has David Riske listed as their closer right now, he managed to stay healthy for 42 innings last year and blew 5 while saving 2 with a 5.31 ERA. Out of the other free agents Alan Embree has closed some, Mota has tried and mostly failed. So unless they trade for someone they can either start with a proven guy who is getting old or wing it with someone and hope to get Turnbow lucky without the Turnbow eventual supernova.
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11/14/2008 @ 02:17:22 PM
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Mota has not "mostly failed" he probably had a couple of rough stretches, but to just claim that he "mostly failed" is not accurate at all. He gave up a total of 3 runs in August and September. And other than a rough month of July, he was by far the Brewers most consistent guy in the bullpen. Now I wouldn't necessarily want him to be what we rely on as our closer, but he is a very good asset in the bullpen.
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newalex.jpgAlex - 3618 Posts
11/14/2008 @ 03:58:20 PM
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Mostly failed at being a closer is what I meant, he was a decent setup guy last year. For his career he has 8 S and 19 BS, he's 35 and hasn't had a season era under 4 since 2004 and he's a currently a free agent. Next.
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11/14/2008 @ 04:24:46 PM
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Scott Wrote - Today @ 10:17:13 AM
Silver Slugger Award Winners Ryan Braun wins his first Silver Slugger Award.


You forgot to mention Mauer and Morneau in your comment. I'll do it for you.
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hoochpage.JPGSarah - 4091 Posts
11/14/2008 @ 04:31:15 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3703112

Good Bye hopes and dreams
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