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	PackOne - She's just a woman. Never again. 07/20/2007 @ 11:18:31 AM
I don't condone any of this in any way. I even called the Falcons front office, and the Surrey? county DA's office when this first happened. However, everyone is allowed to have their day in court. He should take a voluntary leave of absence.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!? 07/20/2007 @ 11:29:39 AM
The NFL has this bizarre notion of basing decisions off of the outcome of the court system, and not the outcome of the court of public opinion. They make "exceptions" to this rule because certain players will get in trouble and part of their deal to come back to the NFL will include clauses where even the act of "getting in trouble" in the future is enough. They don't wait for the outcome of the DUI stop or the outcome of the trial after being arrested because the player has already agreed that from "this moment on" the act of getting stopped or getting arrested will be "actionable."		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - 1528 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 11:42:41 AM
Has Vick agreed to any such clauses. If so link please.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?" 07/20/2007 @ 11:44:01 AM
Not that I'm aware of, that's sort of my point.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - Yeah, and you don't stop, 'caus its 1-8-7 on a ... 07/20/2007 @ 11:45:20 AM
Ah gotcha - bizarre notion was sarcastic. Just had to check. I didn't think you would throw out the "court of public opinion" as a more viable option.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - Push the little daisy's and make em come up. 07/20/2007 @ 01:08:31 PM
For whats its worth, voice your opinion on Vick here. https://community.hsus.org/campaign/US_2007_dogfighting_nfl2?source=gaba6w		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Carlos44ec - You had me at "Hello" 07/20/2007 @ 01:12:17 PM
I'd never send that unless he was proven guilty. Until he is proven guilty, he should be treated as innocent (this is my agreement with Jeremy's post). You can already see another Duke Case going on here- regardless of the outcome, he's already guilty in the public eye. Just like Kobe. But thenagain Kobe did it, just like OJ did it.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9591 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 01:13:41 PM
I always love things like that. Show whomever how outraged you are over whatever by taking 3 seconds to fill in your name and send this chain letter to some guy in charge!! Prove to them it is a big enough issue to lend 2 clicks and 10 seconds total of your time!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
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	PackOne - She's got the whole wide world singing baby's song. 07/20/2007 @ 01:14:28 PM
I agree totally. For those with the opinion that he should be suspended now, there is your avenue. I personally called the DA in Virginia awhile back and simply stated my opposition to dog fighting in general. I felt that this was enough.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Carlos44ec - "The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower." 07/20/2007 @ 01:17:50 PM
I fought dog fighting by getting a kitty. Wish I got a sweet hound like Hooch!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9591 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 01:21:31 PM
Hooch does not approve of dog fighting. Hooch does approve of leg humping. Edit: And finger biting.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
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	PackOne - 1528 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 02:12:37 PM
Grr why wont my dog show up.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
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	PackOne - 1528 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 02:22:51 PM
Gary does not condone dog fighting. Gary condones peanut butter bones.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
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	Jeremy - I believe virtually everything I read. 07/20/2007 @ 02:23:30 PM
Let's try and find some larger pictures to post.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy perfected this at 07/20/2007 2:24:02 pm

	PackOne - 1528 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 02:24:50 PM
Give me a break I had to figure out how to do this. I thought I was quite clever for a guy who doesn't know crap. EDIT: There you go - better I hope.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
PackOne messed with this at 07/20/2007 2:29:18 pm

	Carlos44ec - You had me at "Hello" 07/20/2007 @ 02:50:00 PM
So if you want to see a picture of my cat, go to my myspace page, or tell me how to post her fat ass on here...		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Carlos44ec - "The tallest blade of grass is the first to be cut by the lawnmower." 07/20/2007 @ 02:50:29 PM
YOU BOYS LIKE MEXEEECO???		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - 1528 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 02:56:26 PM
I just quoted Jeremy's post to find out how to present the http and then added mine. It was easier than I thought.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9591 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 03:02:45 PM
That, or spend 6 seconds on google.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy screwed with this at 07/20/2007 3:03:07 pm

	Jeremy - 1.21 Gigawatts!?!? 07/20/2007 @ 03:07:55 PM
YOU BOYS LIKE MEXEEECO???		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.
Jeremy perfected this at 07/20/2007 3:08:08 pm

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 03:47:33 PM
There she is, it's Reese, the monster. She has the uncanny ability to wake me up at 445 EVERY morning! And yes she's chewing on the bag... rodent...		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Carlos44ec messed with this at 07/20/2007 3:48:05 pm

	Carlos44ec - Knuckle Sammich 07/20/2007 @ 04:03:02 PM
Reese does not condone dog fighting. Reese condones plaque removing fish shaped chewtoys.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone! 07/20/2007 @ 04:18:14 PM
How many mistakes has Vick made? Seriously, other than a marijuana incident that turned out to be nothing, what has he done? And, we don't know that he's been involved with killing dogs, at least not in the legal sense. Kobe admitting to adultury, just not rape.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - Pie Racist 07/20/2007 @ 04:24:26 PM
Sorry Scott, only points accompanied with photos of the family pet will be considered relevant.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.
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	Sarah - 4711 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 04:43:34 PM
Ron Mexico, anyone? I mean how was that not bigger news? That has to be some sort of crime... Besides, even if he's not guilty of what's he's charged with, he's still guilty personally of killing those dogs. It was on his property. The whole thing is horrific. The stuff that is coming out though, it just seems like he knew about it. And yea yea yea, I know about the whole court system. But he just doesn't seem very trustworthy. There are articles on ESPN that are wondering if he's going to take a paid leave of absence this year to get this whole indictment thing straightened out. I wonder what will happen.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - At the Dollhouse in Ft. Lauderdale. 07/20/2007 @ 04:45:09 PM
Thats funny ... I was just about to post the following. Guilty or not, even knowing about it and not finding it horrific is just as bad. EDIT: To illustrate just how far this issue is going to go, I just read that the NFL will be advising stadiums to refrain from playing "Who let the dog's out" while playing the Falcons.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
PackOne screwed with this at 07/20/2007 4:50:32 pm

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 04:58:34 PM
Killing someone: On Purpose- Murder On accident- homicide Knowing about it yet doing nothing- accessory to murder Is that right? They're all incredibly serious, yet have varying degrees. I just need someone to confirm (haven't followed it myself) that even though it happened on his property- did he know about it? And this guy that says he was there- is he a reliable witness? Guess I should follow more closely... its a bad thing happening, but there are definitely worse things going on.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
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	Sarah - 4711 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 05:11:48 PM
I have a problem with animal cruelty (which I'm sure most people do). What they were doing there was despicable. They'd kill dogs if they didn't want to fight, they'd kill them if they lost. And it was slow, and painful, and inhumane. Oh yea, and they had dog fights. Clinton Portis actually made jokes about dog fighting when he was asked about it. It's a popular thing apparently. It's cruel.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Carlos44ec - Knuckle Sammich 07/20/2007 @ 05:31:54 PM
I know THAT part, but what are the accusations against Vick, and what are the facts of his involvement? That is the part that keeps escaping me.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 07/20/2007 @ 09:55:09 PM
PETA tells NFL to "Sack Vick". My favorite line from this article: "Ramsey said her organization wrote to the NFL in May, offering to work with the league to help educate players about dogfighting." I mean really, how much education does a person need about dogfighting. Wait though, killing a dog and killing a human don't exactly fall under the same legal terms, do they? Also, I think murder and homicide are the same thing. Killing someone on accident (say, in a car accident) isn't a homicide. There are worse things going on, for sure. I haven't done a single thing to help free Tibet all summer. Does having a problem with animal cruelty fall under religious or non-religious views? Because if my problem with it stems from my faith, then as I understand it, it is ok. Just curious. (mostly kidding, but it is interesting irony). Can we get Waylon Meyer to voice his opinion on this issue. I'd be curious to hear what he has to say. Oh, I've got a good punchline. This is just part of the Michael Vick Experience ride advertised in the commericals. I'm done.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - Even now in Heaven there are angels carrying savage weapons 07/20/2007 @ 11:53:19 PM
Its this on purpose - murder/homicide by accident - manslaughter otherwise correct. dog fighting sucks...unless its my dog...		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 07/21/2007 @ 08:19:51 AM
manslaughter is for killing someone on accident while doing something illegal or stupid, like a bar fight, or driving drunk. If you were to fall out of a tree and kill the person you landed on, you would not be guilty of anything.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Carlos44ec - A Vote for me is a Vote against Terrorism! ...or atleast just wasted. 07/21/2007 @ 08:54:36 AM
Not guilty, but a candidate for the Darwin awards		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - 1528 Posts 07/21/2007 @ 10:35:21 AM
Micah Wrote - 07/20/2007 @ 11:53:19 PM Its this on purpose - murder/homicide by accident - manslaughter otherwise correct. dog fighting sucks...unless its my dog... Thats really funny and not funny all at once.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Matt - Ombudsman 07/21/2007 @ 11:57:00 AM
Carlos44ec Wrote - 07/20/2007 @ 04:58:34 PM Killing someone: On Purpose- Murder On accident- homicide Knowing about it yet doing nothing- accessory to murder Micah Wrote - 07/20/2007 @ 11:53:19 PM Its this on purpose - murder/homicide by accident - manslaughter Scott Wrote - 07/21/2007 @ 08:19:51 AM manslaughter is for killing someone on accident while doing something illegal or stupid, like a bar fight, or driving drunk. If you were to fall out of a tree and kill the person you landed on, you would not be guilty of anything. As I understand it (with some help from Wikipedia): Homicide is the killing of another human being. Whether justified or not, intentional or accidental, it all falls under the homicide umbrella. Murder and manslaughter are then both forms of homicide, but differ on intent, circumstances and legal culpability. Murder being with intent to kill or cause serious harm, and no real justification for it. Manslaughter can be "involuntary" ("accidental") where there is no intent, but through negligence or recklessness, a death occurs (like Scott's drunk driving example). It can also be "voluntary" where there is intent to kill or cause serious harm, but it is mitigated by circumstances and one's state of mind (being provoked and/or acting in the heat of the moment) Of course, in different jurisdictions these may be different, but from the quick reading I did, I think they are good generalities.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	PackOne - Non-Creator 07/21/2007 @ 02:56:24 PM
Wikepedia list on the history of dog fighting. Let's not lose sight of the subject, let's not pass it over to analyze the topic of HUMAN homicide. I challenge the winner of this "definition of homicide" side thread, to donate at least one dollar to an animal rights group of their choice. I'll post a scan of my receipt next week.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	PackOne - 1528 Posts 07/21/2007 @ 02:57:06 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_fighting		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 07/21/2007 @ 06:27:27 PM
The stuff in there about stealing pets as "bait" is terrible. But lest we forget to mention the brutal act of cock fighting, and the plight of Little Jerry Seinfeld. (I guess it was more the plight of Kramer)		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
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	Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman 07/22/2007 @ 12:29:23 AM
I don't condone dog fighting, but animal rights groups are out of control in this country. I think I'd sooner donate a dollar to the Republican Party than to PETA.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 07/22/2007 @ 07:31:03 AM
Jeremy Wrote - 07/22/2007 @ 12:29:23 AM I don't condone dog fighting, but animal rights groups are out of control in this country. I think I'd sooner donate a dollar to the Republican Party than to PETA. Word		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 07/22/2007 @ 08:35:15 AM
PETA may be out of control sometimes, but maybe teaching NFL players about dog fighting wouldn't be such a bad idea. When this story first broke, I read/heard that some NFL players do participate in dog fighting. (i.e. Clinton Portis) About the whole donating thing, we could donate to the Humane Association or something.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9591 Posts 07/22/2007 @ 10:30:43 AM
As sad as it may be, on the long list of people who could use some donations even the Humane Society has to be pretty far down. I don't know if it's a commentary on our country/culture/or the human psyche, but it seems very odd to me we put so much time, effort, and money into helping homeless animals, while simultaneously all but ignoring the problem of homeless people. Now don't get me wrong, those "Oh we've had this dog for 13 years, but now we decided to move into an apartment where pets aren't allowed," people are despicable. Maybe part of why we do what we do stems from the fact that we view dogs as helpless where as a homeless person is just seen as "lazy" and "jobless" by many. (Homelessness is just one of many things we could do more for, and was just the example here.)		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 07/22/2007 @ 01:30:59 PM
At the company I used to work for, they gave each employee $300 to donate to 3 charities from a list of about 100. The year I was there, they had to put a cap on the donations to the humane society because they wanted people to give money to actual human charities. I think there's a general apathy towards large charities because so much of the money is wasted on administrative costs, lobbying, etc. I'm not saying there aren't great charities out there, blah blah....but I know a lot of people who resent United Way for this. Plus, puppies and kittens are way cuter than homeless guys.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	PackOne - Make my own decisions. That's my perogative. 07/22/2007 @ 02:11:52 PM
I actually was just going to photo copy last months vet and food bills for my three cats and dog. I think all of us that treat our pets as part of the family, have already made a priceless contribution.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 07/24/2007 @ 07:23:44 AM
Vick has been ordered to stay away from Training Camp by Roger Goodell. Is that what we all wanted? I think so.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - 3490 Posts 07/27/2007 @ 05:40:47 AM
So, the case is a big deal and a serious thing and everything, but here's the part I find interesting. I don't know if anyone remembers, but I seem to recall Vick growing his hair out near the beginning of his NFL career (I think between his first and second seasons) and stating that he wasn't going to cut it until he won a super bowl. I'm not sure if a statement/action like that can be chalked up to youthful ambition, a lack of perspective, overconfidence, positive thinking, or maybe some combination of those, but I have always been a little intrigued by that pledge. It strikes me as odd how people in general can be so sure of future titles or successes for certain athletes, even though someone like Dan Marino would be buried in his own hair if he ever took such a gamble. There's probably a life lesson in there, but I digress. Short story long, Michael Vick got a haircut. In what was almost certainly an image-conscious move, Vick showed up for court without his cornrows, but with a much better looking, shorter hair style. I'm actually not sure if he was even keeping up with the hair growing, but I know it has been in cornrows for all these years and seemed to be pretty long recently. Whatever the case, I thought I'd bring it up since coverage of his hair has been seriously neglected in the mainstream media reports that I have seen. As a side note, I don't know why everyone is so surprised that Vick is in this trouble. Doesn't everyone know that getting indicted on dogfighting charges happens exactly four years after you're on the cover of Madden? That's part of the curse. Wake up.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jon edited this at 07/27/2007 5:46:53 am

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 07/27/2007 @ 08:23:07 AM
Does anyone remember Jim Carey (thought not). When he first started, before In Living Color, he wrote himself a check for $1 million, in hopes his career would allow him to cash it. Turns out he was eventually. Similar to what Jon mentioned. I think it's great to have goals, but sometimes people get cocky. Also, it's important to say that I've hated everything Jim Carey has done outside of In Living Color.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Wendy - 163 Posts 07/27/2007 @ 10:19:17 AM
BustedTees.com has a new shirt out called "All of Michael Vick's Dogz go to Heaven" http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/badnewzkennels/male/?utm_medium=EMail&utm_source=072607&utm_campaign=Badnewz		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah - 4711 Posts 08/04/2009 @ 04:50:20 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4376513 I doubt this means anything, but if it does and the Packers pick up Vick, I will never root for them again. EVER!		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 08/04/2009 @ 08:13:22 PM
Sarah Wrote - Today @ 04:50:20 PM http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4376513 I doubt this means anything, but if it does and the Packers pick up Vick, I will never root for them again. EVER! word		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - You've got to trust your instinct, and let go of regret 08/04/2009 @ 08:20:53 PM
Interesting place to draw the line, considering other things that actual Packers have done off the field.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Sarah (Guest) 08/04/2009 @ 10:54:14 PM
I know that other packers have done bad things. But to kill dogs for sport is something I canlt deal with. Plus it's not like this is his first offense @ being a horrible human being.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - Resident Tech Support 08/05/2009 @ 08:08:52 AM
The man has done his time. Should he have been put to death instead? I will say that whatever team signs him will also be signing on a giant media circus like nothing that team has ever seen.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9591 Posts 08/05/2009 @ 09:57:52 AM
The Simpson's writers talked on a commentary about how Homer had been abusing Bart at the drop of a hat for like 8 or so years (at the time), and they never got much flak for it, but there was one episode where Homer did the "Why you little! [strangle]" to Santa's Little Helper (the dog) and they practically got death threats. Even though some things are objectively worse, people just love their dogs.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.
Jeremy edited this at 08/05/2009 10:34:28 am

	Carlos44ec - ...and Bob's your Uncle! 08/05/2009 @ 02:08:05 PM
I'd prefer a player to flirt with teenage girls in a hot tub or for a star QB to be addicted to painkillers. That compares directly to the dog thing?		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 08/05/2009 @ 02:09:42 PM
Scott Wrote - Today @ 08:08:52 AM The man has done his time. Should he have been put to death instead? I will say that whatever team signs him will also be signing on a giant media circus like nothing that team has ever seen. Tried, convicted, punished, served. Done. Get's to go back to living life, hopefully. This "Once a _____ always a _______" stuff needs to stop.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - No, I did not change your screen saver settings 08/05/2009 @ 06:19:14 PM
Carlos44ec Wrote - Today @ 03:09:42 PM Scott Wrote - Today @ 09:08:52 AM The man has done his time. Should he have been put to death instead? I will say that whatever team signs him will also be signing on a giant media circus like nothing that team has ever seen. Tried, convicted, punished, served. Done. Get's to go back to living life, hopefully. This "Once a _____ always a _______" stuff needs to stop. I hope this was intended to say "I agree with you". Because that what I meant by "done his time."		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 08/05/2009 @ 07:28:08 PM
Carlos44ec Wrote - Yesterday @ 08:13:22 PM Sarah Wrote - Yesterday @ 04:50:20 PM http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp09/news/story?id=4376513 I doubt this means anything, but if it does and the Packers pick up Vick, I will never root for them again. EVER! word Carlos44ec Wrote - Today @ 02:09:42 PM Scott Wrote - Today @ 08:08:52 AM The man has done his time. Should he have been put to death instead? I will say that whatever team signs him will also be signing on a giant media circus like nothing that team has ever seen. Tried, convicted, punished, served. Done. Get's to go back to living life, hopefully. This "Once a _____ always a _______" stuff needs to stop. Uhhhh what? Make up yo' mind!		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - many posts 08/06/2009 @ 04:27:57 AM
Alex Wrote - 08/04/2009 @ 08:20:53 PM Interesting place to draw the line, considering other things that actual Packers have done off the field. You know what's funny? Or at least something? Lately some of our little pictures/icons haven't been loading next to the names in our comments header and when I first read this comment, it only had a blank white box by it. And I sat for about a minute trying to figure out how "Alex" posted something on this topic in the middle of our softball game. I was really confused and then I realized it was Alex Alex, not PackOne Alex. I hadn't confused the two of them since the days when the football picks page had them both with Packer logos only. It's kind of interesting how I seem to depend on those little pictures. On a related note, Matt reminded me yesterday that I had PackOne's phone number on our roster sheet and so I added it into my phone under "PackOne." And I don't even have an Alex in there already.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 08/06/2009 @ 08:00:19 AM
1st, agreeing with Scott. 2nd, I might have meant to type "word?" as in a sarcastic response, since I think you gave up on the Pack last year.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Micah - Shaken not stirred gets you cold water with a dash of gin and dry vermouth 08/06/2009 @ 09:14:36 AM
I don't think it has ever been revealed here that PackOne's real name is Alex. If he was some sort of secret agent patrolling this website for terrorists, you totally just blew his cover.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 08/06/2009 @ 09:23:50 AM
Micah Wrote - Today @ 10:14:36 AM I don't think it has ever been revealed here that PackOne's real name is Alex. If he was some sort of secret agent patrolling this website for terrorists, you totally just blew his cover. I was thinking the same thing. I didn't know PackOne's real name. I actually half thought that PackOne was in fact a golden retriever.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9591 Posts 08/06/2009 @ 10:13:57 AM
Actually it was "revealed" pretty much right away. Back when Packone first started coming here he and Alex argued about pretty much everything for pretty much no reason, and we used joke about the battle of the Alex's. I can't find any threads though. You know when you do that thing where for whatever reason you start writing/seeing a word over and over and like the 50th time you start thinking about it and all of a sudden it doesn't look right anymore? I just kind of had that happen. A-l-e-x struck me as a very strange name, for some reason.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9591 Posts 08/06/2009 @ 10:29:09 AM
The Official New Member Introduction Thread		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 08/06/2009 @ 12:40:33 PM
Jeremy Wrote - Today @ 10:29:09 AM The Official New Member Introduction Thread I forgot that I had two original roles in PCW. Drums and then the dumb guy.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.