Fantasy Baseball League

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 02/25/2007 @ 06:26:09 PM
I think we were going to set a max innings/innings pitched. Yes?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 02/25/2007 @ 06:33:01 PM
Also Slugging %?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Matt - 3991 Posts 02/25/2007 @ 07:35:30 PM
I say OBP instead of batting average and Slugging instead of HR		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Matt - 3991 Posts 02/25/2007 @ 07:36:45 PM
And I would be for a max innings and max games played.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 02/25/2007 @ 09:32:59 PM
no BA or HR? I think at least BA. maybe OBP AND BA, because I don't think a player should be "discredited" for taking a walk rather than getting a hit, but BA is like the only stat that some people know about. That's my take.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Sarah - 4718 Posts 02/25/2007 @ 11:10:43 PM
OBP Takes into account BA and SLG % counts HR's		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Matt - 3991 Posts 02/25/2007 @ 11:41:10 PM
Wow, Sarah showing her Sabermetric side.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 02/26/2007 @ 09:02:38 AM
I suppose. It's worth a shot.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - Super Chocolate Bear 02/26/2007 @ 09:29:52 AM
Actually Jeremy was showing off his "too lazy to sign Sarah out and sign himself in side".		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Matt - Ombudsman 02/26/2007 @ 11:03:37 AM
I had a feeling that this was the case.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.
Matt edited this at 02/26/2007 11:06:09 am

	Scott - Resident Tech Support 02/26/2007 @ 11:06:19 AM
If the draft day could be moved to either monday or wednesday, or more like 9:00 on tuesday, that would be better for me. If this doesn't work, I'll just work hard to pre-rank my players and let the autodraft take me to the top.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 02/26/2007 @ 11:17:38 AM
Actually, upon further review, I will be gone for the whole week of March 20th, the current draft date. A week before or a week after would be desirable if possible.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - Robots don't say 'ye' 02/26/2007 @ 11:35:09 AM
I'll let Sarah pick a new date/time.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 02/26/2007 @ 09:03:58 PM
How about we keep home runs and add total bases...its essentially slugging percentage and way less boring...		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 07:29:59 AM
I'd be up for Micah's suggestion.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Alex - I was too weak to give in Too strong to lose 02/27/2007 @ 01:00:45 PM
slugging percentage would penalize teams less for injuries and having guys who get more frequent days off and such, which i think would make a more level playing field		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 01:29:06 PM
Well...shouldn't you get rewarded for having players that actually play?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 01:37:43 PM
Overall, I think total bases would be a better option than slugging percentage. I can't really think of why at the moment, but I like the idea of overall accumulation of numbers rather than a percentage, especially for a stat like this. Of course, there are pros and cons. A player batting in the number 2 or 3 spot could have the same SLG% as someone in the number 7,8, or 9 spot, but the 2 or 3 hitter is going to have ~7 more at-bats per week a better chance at getting bases. This is probably actually an argument against my position, but Jeremy has pointed out my poor lawyering skills in the past.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 01:39:41 PM
Weah!		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Matt - 3991 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 02:23:59 PM
So... OBP, SB, Total Bases, and Pick 2 of (HR/RBI/R)		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.
Matt edited this at 02/27/2007 2:24:13 pm

	Matt - 3991 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 02:29:34 PM
I put total bases above, but I'm fine w/ Slugging % too.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Matt - Ombudsman 02/27/2007 @ 02:34:17 PM
Or how about: OPS, Win Shares, VORP, RC/27, EqA		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.

	Jeremy - I hate our freedoms 02/27/2007 @ 02:36:55 PM
How about we just all decide who drafted the best team and call it a year?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Matt - 3991 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 02:39:08 PM
Then I win!!!		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - No one's gay for Moleman 02/27/2007 @ 02:41:24 PM
Deathblow?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Matt - 3991 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 02:43:17 PM
Indeed		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 02:48:02 PM
If I get 2 picks amongst HR/RBI/R, I pick RBI and R, because a homerun counts for both of them anyway. I guess. I might start to rebel against the non-traditional stat categories, and I might actually just start my own league by myself so I can impart my own rules. But I guess I can conform for the sake of multilateralism.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 02:48:02 PM
So we decided we should limit innings....to what? Our scoring options: Games Played (GP) Games Started (GS) At Bats (AB) Runs (R) Hits (H) Singles (1B) Doubles (2B) Triples (3B) Home Runs (HR) Runs Batted In (RBI) Sacrifice Hits (SH) Sacrifice Flys (SF) Stolen Bases (SB) Caught Stealing (CS) Walks (BB) Intentional Walks (IBB) Hit By Pitch (HBP) Strikeouts (K) Ground Into Double Play (GIDP) Total Bases (TB) Putouts (PO) Assists (A) Errors (E) Fielding Percentage (FPCT) Batting Average (AVG) On-base Percentage (OBP) Slugging Percentage (SLG) On-base Slugging Percentage (OPS)		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 02:48:34 PM
Simultaneous comment!!!		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Alex - 3619 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 07:15:58 PM
"Scoring options", that's just too easy. Can't you see what the default league innings max is? I say take that and maybe bump it up a little.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 02/27/2007 @ 10:54:35 PM
As far as I know the default is unlimited, but maybe Sarah did change that.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.

	Alex - 3619 Posts 02/28/2007 @ 12:10:29 AM
I meant what is a normal public league usually set to. "A Public League pitching staff can throw a total of 1250 innings for the season. Once the sum of all innings pitched reaches the 1250 mark, pitchers no longer accumulate stats." Assuming the active roster size is the same as in a public league why not round it to an even 1300 and go with that.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 02/28/2007 @ 09:12:19 AM
I think injuries are part of the game and finding suitable replacements is as well. Total Bases would destroy slugging % in a fight. I guess I would pick RBI and R as well, but not having HR in fantasy baseball just seems wrong. I think we should have Innings Pitched as a pitching category so we can all nicely tie at 1300 at the end of the year		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 02/28/2007 @ 09:24:21 AM
the default is 1250. Go with Alex on this, 1300 is a good number.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone! 02/28/2007 @ 09:25:38 AM
I'm surprised NutCan didn't self-implode after Jeremy and I posted comments at exactly the same time. That was a close one. Come to think of it, I think I remember feeling the earth shake and seeing a strange blueish purple light in the sky at the time of the comment. Then I went back and screwed up a past relationship. Weird.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 02/28/2007 @ 09:37:38 AM
Max games: 162 Max Innings: 1300		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Sarah - So's your face 03/01/2007 @ 07:41:06 PM
i'll try for a week later, the week before is major major deadline for moi. Not that i'm important, but i like doing drafts.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 03/01/2007 @ 07:47:16 PM
I think you're important.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Sarah - How do you use these things? 03/01/2007 @ 08:16:25 PM
TMNT?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - On your mark...get set...Terrible! 03/02/2007 @ 09:10:12 AM
Someone needs to explain to me the logic behind the max number of innings pitched. There are 162 games in a season, and 9 innings in each game. That means that there are 1458 innings to be pitched by a team. Where does the 1250 or 1300 come from? I'm not sure what is behind the Yahoo! default, but those numbers don't seem to have any reasoning behind them. I say increase the max innings a bit more.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 03/02/2007 @ 09:10:36 AM
teenage mutant ninja turtles?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 03/02/2007 @ 09:43:13 AM
Well you aren't going to have the pitchers for a solid 9 innings every game anyway.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Alex - But let history remember, that as free men, we chose to make it so! 03/02/2007 @ 12:52:55 PM
You'd have to base it off the pitcher roster size. If our # pitchers is same as yahoo default, then those numbers work out pretty well. It forces you to have some balance between relievers and starters and to not constantly swap out starters all season long like I did last year.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - I hate our freedoms 03/02/2007 @ 01:17:04 PM
"You'd have to base it off the pitcher roster size. If our # pitchers is same as yahoo default, then those numbers work out pretty well. It forces you to have some balance between relievers and starters and to not constantly swap out starters all season long cheat the system like I did last year." Fixed it for ya.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 03/02/2007 @ 03:00:20 PM
Well, what I'm saying is this If I have a 5 man rotation of starting pitchers who all average between 6 and 7 innings a piece. I kinda figured it out. There are basically no "middle relievers" in fantasy baseball, so that takes out at least one inning per game or more. Ok, I'm ok with it.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - Get Up! Get outta here! Gone! 03/02/2007 @ 03:01:42 PM
One more thing about the draft time. Tuesday evenings are bad for me. If it could possibly be changed to a Monday or Wednesday that would be better. If this doesn't work, it's not a big deal. I don't want the entire thing to hinge on pleasing me. I just thought I'd point it out.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?" 03/02/2007 @ 03:14:30 PM
Well yeah that and I mean we could make it 500 innings of we wanted. It's about making there be a strategy to it and maybe "picking your moments" rather then blindly starting any starting pitchers.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Micah - 584 Posts 03/09/2007 @ 08:36:28 PM
Did we agree to do Total Bases instead of Slugging %?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Matt - Ombudsman 03/09/2007 @ 10:19:39 PM
I'm fine with Total Bases		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 03/10/2007 @ 03:12:17 AM
Speaking of baseball. Is that friend of yours going to hook you up with mlb tv, micah? does anyone know how to trick it into not being blacked out? should i just get the radio again?		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 03/10/2007 @ 07:57:32 AM
Oddly enough, I did get a number of Brewer games on MLB tv last year. It's kind of hit and miss. If you logon early enough before the game starts, sometimes it forgets that it's not supposed let you watch. But then don't turn it off before the game is over because it will soon remember.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Micah - Shaken not stirred gets you cold water with a dash of gin and dry vermouth 03/10/2007 @ 09:59:33 AM
I'll see if I can get the login again....I think I have to go through like 7 channels of people so we shall see.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - The pig says "My wife is a slut?" 03/12/2007 @ 10:18:30 AM
Changed. Also should we make the league bigger? Carl and Jon could play? Edit: Nevermind, Sarah did make it bigger. Carl and Jon join!		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.
Jeremy edited this at 03/12/2007 10:19:31 am

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 03/16/2007 @ 12:33:26 PM
I can join, but FYI after one day on the brackets for NBAA I am 11 of 11		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Micah - I'm on a boat! Everybody look at me cause I'm sailing on a boat! 03/16/2007 @ 11:12:25 PM
Does anyone else read this: http://eteamz.active.com/PatNeshek/ It's Pat Neshek's blog and he seems like a pretty sweet guy. He just talks about signing autographs and collecting cards. The latest entry is jsut a rundown of what he pulled from opening a box of cards.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Alex - 3619 Posts 03/17/2007 @ 02:17:31 AM
Him blogging about cards sounds like some Dungeons&Dragons geek. My autographed, blue edition, special insert, glow in the dark, A-Rod could beat down your origami, doubles as a mini hard drive, holograph A-Rod.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Sarah - 4718 Posts 03/17/2007 @ 12:38:09 PM
That's funny, he's one of the guys who wears his socks up. I just assumed he was older, but the other day i looked it up and he was born in 1980.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Carlos44ec - 2079 Posts 03/18/2007 @ 09:21:30 PM
man thats old!		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 03/28/2007 @ 08:24:48 PM
It's safe to say that, as always, Matt won the draft.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Alex - Refactor Mercilessly 03/28/2007 @ 08:31:48 PM
I would actually give the nod to Scott.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Scott - 6225 Posts 03/28/2007 @ 08:34:38 PM
I do have almost 130 saves on my pitching staff.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jon - 3497 Posts 03/28/2007 @ 09:01:03 PM
actually, scott, you have zero saves on your staff. unless you're in some spring training fantasy league. or some "past performance" league. which really wouldn't be that exciting. Anyway, you should have drafted lee smith and dennis eckersley if you really wanted more saves.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Scott - You're going to have to call your hardware guy. It's not a software issue. 03/28/2007 @ 10:16:09 PM
one nut for that one.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.

	Micah - I didn't make that! It fell out of your hair that way! 03/29/2007 @ 06:30:04 AM
And your saves come with a nice 4.38 ERA		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 2 times.

	Scott - Ma'am, can you make sure your computer is turned on? 03/29/2007 @ 07:04:16 AM
Well that's your opinion.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Carlos44ec - "Always remember that you are unique. Just like everybody else." 03/29/2007 @ 07:51:50 AM
Holy Crisis I missed the draft.... good thing I was taking care of a sick person (as opposed to no excuse at all)		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Alex - Who controls the past now controls the future 06/27/2007 @ 01:15:50 PM
Remember when I took Corey Hart with my last pick and declared it the steal of the draft? That turned out to be false for a while resulting in my dropping him even, but once he started getting playing time I picked him up right away and he is currently ranked #1 overall for the last month's stats.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	PackOne - It's a sin that somehow, light is changing to shadow. 06/27/2007 @ 02:19:54 PM
Your "I made a stretch pick and got lucky" trophy should ship around the same time as my medal.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 06/27/2007 @ 02:57:27 PM
I wonder if the Fatboys v Nutcan or Alex v Packone is a bigger rivalry at the moment.		Rate this comment Yours: Total: Rated 1 times.

	PackOne - There's music to play. Places to go. People to see. 06/27/2007 @ 03:07:09 PM
It actually is an Alex vs. Alex rivalry FYI.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.

	Jeremy - 9594 Posts 06/27/2007 @ 03:32:05 PM
The plot thickens.		Rate this comment Yours: Rated 0 times.