04/03/2006 9:31 am
First, I'd like to say that I'm excited about baseball starting. I'm sure we'll talk more about that later.
But for now, here is a link to some audio clips from Mark Chmura's radio show. If you haven't heard these, you should.
|Jeremy - Always thinking of, but never about, the children.|
My first reaction was "Chmura has a radio show?"
My second reaction was I didn't expect him to sound like that.
My third was that he sounds awfully bitter.
My fourth was that he's pretty much right.
Packer fans are starting to turn on Favre, he needs to decide now.
|Scott - 6225 Posts|
|Is Favre hurting the team yet because of his lack of decision making? I'm not sure. If he waits until after the draft will it hurt the team? Probably a lot better chance that it will. Are people going after Roger Clemens because he took so long to make a decision? Not really. I won't completely disagree with Chmura, except that what the heck was he doing at a high school party hanging out with high school girls in a hot tub. Ok, anyway. I think favre needs to make a decision. I would really like to know before the draft. However, I don't know whether or not it would affect the way the Packers draft, because I don't really want to see them draft a QB early on anyway. Now, Favre has said the last several years that he would only play if he thought that the Packers had a chance to go to the Super Bowl. Is that what he is trying to figure out? Maybe he realized that the Packers had $30 million+ in cap room and that they could do something major to grab a number of good players that could help the team. But since the front office is doing almost nothing with the money and haven't really made any moves in free agency, not to mention that they have lost a couple of good players, all of sudden Favre is questioning whether or not the team is going to build a winner. So basically what I am trying to say, is maybe Favre was originally going to wait at least until the Packers spent some of their cap money on good players, but when they didn't, all of a sudden his decision changed, and now he is simply caught in a bind: he wants to play because he loves to play, but he doesn't want to play if the season will end up like last year.|
|icbeast - 3619 Posts|
|He's being a big weeny. Either sally up and play or go home. I didn't listen to Chmura because I don't really care what he thinks anyway. But if Favre wants to run the team then he can apply for GM next time the job is open. If he wants to be the QB of the Packers this season, then he should make a commitment. The next year's results are rather unpredictable anyway so all that the team hasn't improved stuff is hogwash. Last year Favre himself blew at least 2 or 3 game himself, they had an uncanny string of RB injuries, and the O-line was inexperienced. They've improved the Defense already, the RBs are healthy, they've picked up some WR help, the O-line has another year of experience, and in the ever changing NFL they have as a good a chance as most teams at this point to make the playoffs. If he really can't decide he just flip a coin or something. And Roger Clemens' situation doesn't compare to this at all. There's a big difference between starting a game for your team every 5 games and being the guy who touches the ball on every single offensive play of every game. Maybe if Favre hadn't been doing this for 10 years already people would be a little more lenient. At this point its just annoying.|
|Scott - 6225 Posts|
|i'll say I'm pretty lenient. Not because it's Favre, but just because that's the kind of guy I am:)|
|Jon - 3134 Posts|
The whole thing about waiting to see if the Packers do anything is kind of ridiculous. As I've heard pointed out by others, it's a catch 22 of sorts. They really can't go full throttle with any free agency or trading things until they konw the makeup of the quarterback postition.
And I don't mean to judge, but rather just think out loud here, is it really the right outlook to be coming back only if you think your team is going to win? I mean I know that's the goal and everything, they don't just play just to play, and he's at the end of his career, but to me if someone is laboring this much to decide if he wants to play for us, I'd just say, why don't you go find something else to do. Because we can't manufacture your motivation for you. It's a long season. There are a lot of players on the team.
Maybe I'd feel differently if I were actually in one of the positions to make these decisions, but from where I am right now, that's how I feel about it.
|Jon - 3134 Posts|
|And again, I'm not meaning to judge Favre here. I'm about as good as it gets in putting off making decisions. But I think we can be understanding of what he's going through while also agreeing that what he's doing is probably having a negative impact on the team. If the Packers are willing to put up with that, then that's their decision to make.|
|Scott - 6225 Posts|
|I do wish he would make up his mind, one way or the other.|
|Jeremy - Robots don't say 'ye'|
|Go take a Lambeau Leap, Brett|
|Jeremy - 9236 Posts|
Brett Favre issued an ultimatum to the Green Bay Packers today, saying he wont return to the team unless they show they are dedicated to making a playoff run by improving the teams vastly underperforming quarterback position.
Anyone who watched this team play the last few years knows we dont have a snowballs chance in hell of winning a Super Bowl unless we get better play out of the quarterback position, said Favre. Not to make a personal attack, but our quarterback has been terrible. Its impossible to win in this league when you have a guy back there who repeatedly throws into double, triple and even quadruple coverage. And at this stage in my career I want to be on a winning team. Either they bring in a good quarterback who gives us a legitimate shot at winning some games or Im retiring.
Favre said its most important that the team acquire a quarterback who is not only talented, but also accountable for his own actions.
You get the sense that our quarterback thinks hes above reproach, said Favre. Hell just run past the line of scrimmage and flip the ball ahead, or blindly chuck a pass into triple coverage in a crucial part of the game for an interception and then just kind of smile and shrug as if to say: Hey, I am who I am. Im a gunslinger. I can do what I want and nothing is ever my fault because people think Im a nice guy. Thats simply not the kind of attitude you want in a team leader. He points fingers at everyone else as though theyre to blame, when hes our teams biggest problem.
New Packers head coach Mike McCarthy says he is very aware of his teams quarterback problems.
You look at tapes from last year and, yes, while we had some protection problems from time to time and were not chock full of All-Pros at the skill positions, even when our quarterback had protection hed throw into triple coverage or overthrow a wide open receiver by five or 10 yards. Thats not anyone elses fault but his own, said McCarthy. So even if we had Hall of Famers on the line and Terrell Owens, Randy Moss and Edgerrin James at the skill positions, it wont change the fact that our quarterback play is abysmal. So while I dont necessarily like to hear it from him, I cant blame Brett for what hes saying. I wouldnt want to play for a team quarterbacked by Brett Favre either.